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wary 5.1.1 Cant shutdown?
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mattrix

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2011, 07:00    Post subject:  wary 5.1.1 Cant shutdown?  

Hey All,
I have just got Wary 5.1.1 running from my hard disk. (frugal install).
It found my hardware and started X; and connects to the internet.
I'm typing from sea-monkey now!
Very win95!
But I keep double clicking to open things and get 2 windows! is this configurable?
Anyway, having got it going I wanted to exit and save my settings and restart it normally but these menu entries do nothing

menu/shutdown/power-off computer
menu/shutdown/Exit to prompt
menu/shutdown/Reboot computer

What do I do now?
pull the plug?

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sfeeley

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2011, 07:39    Post subject:  

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Very win95!


At first-- but its possible to customize. When you want, for example, you can remove most of the icons ( right click --> remove item [don't put it in the trash)]. You can install wbar for a "apple-style" launch bar, new wallpaper, desktop "widgets, etc.

As you discovered, single clicks rule here. I quickly got used to it. (maybe somebody else knows how to switch to double taps and can help)

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Anyway, having got it going I wanted to exit and save my settings and restart it normally but these do nothing

menu/shutdown/power-off computer
menu/shutdown/Exit to prompt
menu/shutdown/Reboot computer


the first time you power-off, puppy will lead you through a series of prompts to create a "savefile" which keeps your settings, etc. Just follow the instructions and you should be ok
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mattrix

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2011, 07:56    Post subject:  

But how do I power-off? the shutdown menus do nothing!.
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r1tz


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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2011, 08:02    Post subject:  

single click will open stuff. Duoble click will open two stuff.

Yes, you can change this.

Open the file manger, rt click, options.

Choose single click navigator under filer

Uncheck single click to open under pinboard.

Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2011, 08:11    Post subject:  

Try. Crtl-Alt-Delete, then type "poweroff'

Try running the shutdown script in /etc/rc.d

Check if you have a corrupted download. md5sum or something
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2011, 08:11    Post subject:  

EDIT: Repeated post
EDIT2:http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=58921
Its Pupshutdown, a nice gui. Might help.
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mattrix

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2011, 08:40    Post subject:  

Thanks for the help,

Cnt-alt-del does nothing either.
I checked the md5 when I got it.

how do I shut down X. can I do it from within a terminal?
will power-off work from a terminal?

or will the above upset X?
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2011, 09:07    Post subject:  

Im so sry! i meant to say "crtl-alt-backspace"
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mattrix

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2011, 09:35    Post subject:  

Thankyou,

That worked a treat.
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2011, 15:08    Post subject:  

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Anyway, having got it going I wanted to exit and save my settings and restart it normally but these menu entries do nothing

menu/shutdown/power-off computer
menu/shutdown/Exit to prompt
menu/shutdown/Reboot computer

This is not normal result. Shutdown menu items usually work very well.
What are the specs of your computer?
Give specific info on how you did the frugal install.
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mattrix

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2011, 21:25    Post subject:  

Hey bigpup,

I manually extracted the files and copied them across. I just wanted something running.

Current hardware is as follows,

Duron 700 Mhz, VIA chipset
384MB ram
STB Velocity 4MB AGP graphics (Riva VPU)
HDD with GRUB2 in MBR & 4 partitions
-sda1 ext2 (boot) with grub and puppy kernel
-sda2 fat16 (xfer)
-sda5 swap
-sda6 ext2 with directory containing,
* initrd.gz
* wary_511.sfs
* warysave.3fs

I do want to move the HDD to other hardware, will puppy detect this change and load the appropriate things?

This may be relevant, when I "poweroff" it shuts down puppy but doesnt shut down the ATX power supply.

matt

ps
is initrd kept in ram?
where is root switched to? (a point on initrd?)
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Mar 2011, 13:30    Post subject: Re: wary 5.1.1 Cant shutdown?  

mattrix wrote:

Very win95!


Very false.

It very Unix.

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Mar 2011, 03:38    Post subject:  

Using Lupu 5.20

I've had a similar problem. After this topic started I did some testing, and
have some success to report.

First: I do an orderly shutdown. Close all applications, exit to prompt,
then type reboot

Without a long boring description, I will just say, it wasn't behaving like it
should. Usually it would reboot. Sometimes I'd have to help it with a three
finger salute. On a couple occasions, the kill button.

Experimenting, I typed in this command:

reboot;reboot

So far it works every time.

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mattrix

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Mar 2011, 05:01    Post subject: Re: wary 5.1.1 Cant shutdown?  

Bruce B wrote:


It very Unix.

~


I believe you.
I've never seen a graphical interface on Unix.

Mine seems to reboot OK.

I just need 3 fingers to get out of X.
And to hit the kill switch to shut off the power supply.
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Mar 2011, 05:42    Post subject:  

Looking at where you have Puppy installed.
Looks like you have a frugal install of Puppy.
Usually all the Puppy files are installed to the same location.
Should be 4 files when you make a save file.
* initrd.gz
* wary_511.sfs
* warysave.3fs
* vmlinuz

Could be chance your download of Puppy was not good.
Noticed you have a .3fs save file on an ext2 formatted partition. Should not cause problem, but who knows.


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-sda1 ext2 (boot) with grub and puppy kernel

Not sure what you mean by Puppy kernel, but do not think this is needed.
The 3 Puppy files from the Puppy ISO and a save file is all you need for a frugal install.
Yes a bootloader to boot it.

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