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#21 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 22 Mar 2011, 16:42

All I can say is that any .pet/sfs/iso etc I produce for the puppy community you can trust, And if you can't trust must me then probably you should compile/package/build/configure it yourself. I sure has heck wouldn't be running to MS, for help. lol There are a few of us well seasoned puppy users you can trust, usually as a rule people with over 462 for yorkiesnorkie

only, everybody else 1000 !!!

post are pretty proven by then.
ttuuxxx

puppyluvr · #22 Post by **puppyluvr** » Tue 22 Mar 2011, 16:51

Hello,
Thats part of the beauty of Linux...its open.
If you arent sure, open it up and take a look inside and see what it does...
Try that with an .exe file.....

And anything I code prob has enough bugs without adding a virus...

yorkiesnorkie · #23 Post by **yorkiesnorkie** » Tue 22 Mar 2011, 18:34

Crap, 538 posts to go before I'm legit!

Bernie_by_the_Sea · #24 Post by **Bernie_by_the_Sea** » Tue 22 Mar 2011, 22:13

Lobster wrote: It takes me about 15 minutes to set Puppy up from scratch with my preferred programs and pets and so on.

It's a bit late to reply but it’s taking me a while to catch up with all the posts on this forum. I find this interesting. Mostly by random chance Wary 500 was the first Pup I downloaded. It took me a month and over 200 hours to get it the way I liked it. I installed 35 pets (mostly tiny and some just cosmetic) and probably more than that number of debs and rpms. I made hundreds of changes, nearly all cosmetic.

The first couple of weeks before I had any idea what I was doing I just clicked on a pet and let Puppy do its thing. That means I don’t have a copy of the original pet on my computer and would have to find and download it again to use it with another version of Puppy. Now, of course, I save a pet before I install it.

I downloaded Lucid 520 about two weeks ago and I like the looks of it better than Wary (but I’m not sure about the substance yet; it may just be cosmetic appeal). No way do I think it would be worth another 200 hours to get it the way I want it. It wouldn’t take anywhere near that long but it would certainly take more than 15 minutes. I’ve now made a list of the 35 pets monitored by the package manager but I don’t have a list of the debs and rpms I installed. I wouldn’t know something was missing until I tried to do something and found it was something I installed and not part of Puppy.

Something else Puppy did (besides luring me away from Windows) was revive my interest in Linux. I’m not only continuing to play with Puppy but I “upgraded

puppyluvr · #25 Post by **puppyluvr** » Tue 22 Mar 2011, 23:52

Hello,
The .debs you install, at least on Lupu series Puppy (5+) are logged alongside the .pets in /root/.packages....

Yes, always save a pet B4 installing it...If it needs fixing, you can untar it, fix it, and try again...

yorkiesnorkie · #26 Post by **yorkiesnorkie** » Wed 23 Mar 2011, 20:02

postfs1 wrote:

yorkiesnorkie wrote:... The truly paranoid should run from the live CD if they want a pristine OS. ...
I don't know who pays for the label.
Note: my sentence shows giving the attention only to one sentence.
An article about rootkit:
http://www.linux-networks.net/Sams-Linu ... 1sec2.html

This tool you recommended is damn near useless. It identifies a bunch of false positives right from the get go, which makes it useless as a diagnostic tool for the average user.

Yorkie

postfs1 · #27 Post by **postfs1** » Wed 23 Mar 2011, 21:55

To reedit up to date.

#28 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 23 Mar 2011, 22:41

yorkiesnorkie wrote:Crap, 538 posts to go before I'm legit!

Updated my above post, now your ok to post

ttuuxxx

jamesbond · #29 Post by **jamesbond** » Thu 24 Mar 2011, 00:55

What is this ttuuxxx? You lowered the bar! I was frantically posting as many posts as I can to meet this 1000 limit and now you lowered it !

Lobster · #30 Post by **Lobster** » Thu 24 Mar 2011, 01:00

Maybe that should be mnt/home instead of mnr/nome? I really want to see your secrets.

Pah,
my security has been breached . . .
ah well . . .

OK it is important to understand how and why people run Puppy the way they do.
For many years Barry adopted a policy of delivering a new - and I mean radically new
Puppy every six weeks. A lot of it practically single handed.
Pure penguin perspicacity.
No Linux or developer is fast enough after that.
Puppy is more geeky than the average but not totally command line feverish.

It took me a year or two to realize that Puppy does not need to be installed to HD
but it was always clear that Barry and those early developers were trustworthy.
I liked to have a pristine Internet connected Linux set up in 3 minutes.

Puppy Lucid does it now - direct to desktop with a few simple mouse clicks you are done.
Puppy Lucid however is more complex and I have more needs and expectations.
For example look and feel - now I customise, that takes a while.
Browser choice is great but takes time.
And Quickpet has so much I now consider essential . . .
So much to try . . .
Bit torrent, chat program, desktop recorder.
So the 15 minutes can quickly extend into an hour.

There are programs such as Mtpaint, Geany, gFTP
and many others that I know and expect to just work.

I don't encrypt my save file, run pets with a process viewer open
and fear of others as a way of 'being safe'.

I consider an installed Linux with thousands of obscure programs
has far more potential for worry but even those I would run
as root and be safer than the Windows compromise.

Puppy has given me the confidence to trust the real hacker,
the real vulnerability and that has always been me
messing about . . .

Why not have fun? [it is more fun]
You want to be serious? Install and trust LibreOffice.pet
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65918
Now you have some serious power . . .

Puppy
Playful Penguin

#31 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 24 Mar 2011, 01:29

jamesbond wrote:What is this ttuuxxx? You lowered the bar! I was frantically posting as many posts as I can to meet this 1000 limit and now you lowered it !

I updated my update above,lol ok only yorkiesnorkie can have 462 everybody else 1000 post min, and congrats jamesbond your 1000 post is in site, only 194 left, that usually takes me between 1-2 weeks for about 200 post give or take. Really it depends on responses, like the start of 2.14x was really quick, tons of post, but as it matures less and less feedback/responses etc.
ttuuxxx

Bernie_by_the_Sea · #32 Post by **Bernie_by_the_Sea** » Thu 24 Mar 2011, 03:17

Lobster wrote: I liked to have a pristine Internet connected Linux set up in 3 minutes.

Puppy Lucid does it now - direct to desktop with a few simple mouse clicks you are done.
Puppy Lucid however is more complex and I have more needs and expectations.
For example look and feel - now I customise, that takes a while.
Browser choice is great but takes time.
And Quickpet has so much I now consider essential . . .
So much to try . . .
Bit torrent, chat program, desktop recorder.
So the 15 minutes can quickly extend into an hour.

It took me over 200 hours to set up Wary the first time. To see how close I could come to your 15 minutes today I started with a pristine Lucid. It took me two hours to get it about halfway set up. This includes Opera, the modem connection and even printer setup. However, an hour and ten minutes of this time was installing and using wbar for the first time. I had a few hiccups getting wbar to run after reboots.

I don’t know how much of my first setup I really need or want. Is a larger cursor really necessary? PupClockset? (For sniping on eBay I need an accurate and clearly visible clock with seconds.) Wine, a biggie to install? (Easier to just reboot Windows.) Another wallpaper setter? Emelfm? Themes? Barry? This is the BlackBerry backup utility, one I installed from a tarball I found who knows where and I didn’t keep the sources or tar or anything. Maybe I could move my Barry installation from Wary? Again easier to just reboot XP.

It looks like I can get a finished product in less than four hours. Not bad from 200 down to 4. But I still like Wary better than Lucid and I still don't like wbar.

Let’s see, at a hundred posts per day I can become respectable in ten days... that is if the bar isn’t raised for me.

Once upon a time I held the record for number of posts per day on Yahoo groups, 3,000+ -- hundreds of one-liners calling names interspersed with some real substance. I was one capitalist “debating

yorkiesnorkie · #33 Post by **yorkiesnorkie** » Thu 24 Mar 2011, 10:20

ttuuxxx wrote:
jamesbond wrote:What is this ttuuxxx? You lowered the bar! I was frantically posting as many posts as I can to meet this 1000 limit and now you lowered it !
I updated my update above,lol ok only yorkiesnorkie can have 462 everybody else 1000 post min, and congrats jamesbond your 1000 post is in site, only 194 left, that usually takes me between 1-2 weeks for about 200 post give or take. Really it depends on responses, like the start of 2.14x was really quick, tons of post, but as it matures less and less feedback/responses etc.
ttuuxxx

LOL

ICPUG · #34 Post by **ICPUG** » Thu 24 Mar 2011, 12:17

Number of posts as a guide to trustfulness can be helpful but what about guys who don't argue a lot and do some real work!

Radky's first post to this forum was to introduce one of his utilities.

He has to date only posted 97 times yet his utilities are trusted and, in the case of PupControl particularly, widely praised and indispensible.

#35 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 24 Mar 2011, 12:38

ICPUG wrote:Number of posts as a guide to trustfulness can be helpful but what about guys who don't argue a lot and do some real work!

Radky's first post to this forum was to introduce one of his utilities.

He has to date only posted 97 times yet his utilities are trusted and, in the case of PupControl particularly, widely praised and indispensible.

ya but we've only really had about 5 people out of the 27,500 users on here like that, So the 1000 post sticks, lol
as PupControl goes 2.14X has had a control panel for well over a year. I found this small Control Panel app when we were building 4.2. It works very well.
The author is also very nice, before you had to click the writing to execute the app and clicking on the picture did nothing, So I asked the author to change it to the icon also and within a day he had it changed at his website
ttuuxxx

Py · #36 Post by Py » Thu 24 Mar 2011, 18:50

Bernie_by_the_Sea wrote: Now, of course, I save a pet before I install it.

Wondering how to save a pet?

I am new to .pets, have just started using Lucid 5.2 (like it), and am on dialup. I am using quickpets but see no option to save before installation.

#37 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 24 Mar 2011, 18:56

Py wrote:
Bernie_by_the_Sea wrote: Now, of course, I save a pet before I install it.
Wondering how to save a pet?

I am new to .pets, have just started using Lucid 5.2 (like it), and am on dialup. I am using quickpets but see no option to save before installation.

Hi Py I would check /tmp for the files.
Also I would contact 5.2 and ask for tickboxs to save the pets in /root/Downloads
That makes more sense than fishing around in /tmp
ttuuxxx

James C · #38 Post by **James C** » Thu 24 Mar 2011, 19:10

ttuuxxx wrote:
Py wrote:
Bernie_by_the_Sea wrote: Now, of course, I save a pet before I install it.
Wondering how to save a pet?

I am new to .pets, have just started using Lucid 5.2 (like it), and am on dialup. I am using quickpets but see no option to save before installation.
Hi Py I would check /tmp for the files.
Also I would contact 5.2 and ask for tickboxs to save the pets in /root/Downloads
That makes more sense than fishing around in /tmp
ttuuxxx

Already there.....

Py · #39 Post by Py » Thu 24 Mar 2011, 19:30

Thank you for the replies.
I am rather an old timer. James C, could you please tell me how to get to that box to untick it.

Found it! Thank you all for being here.

James C · #40 Post by **James C** » Thu 24 Mar 2011, 19:49

Py wrote:Thank you for the replies.
I am rather an old timer. James C, could you please tell me how to get to that box to untick it.

Found it! Thank you all for being here.

No problem..

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