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DMcCunney

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Feb 2010, 19:45    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
DMcCunney wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:

I like kompozer but its never stable enough, and really it should be a addon for Firefox since its like 90% Firefox based.

Not really. Kompozer is a fork of Nvu, and Nvu is based on the HTML editor in SeaMonkey.

Yes everybody knows that Kompozer is a fork of NVU, since NVU is a dead project now.

Then why call it "based on Firefox"? It isn't. Firefox and Kompozer share a common base, which is a different matter.

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Kompozer is actually build on top of Mozilla, which is the backend of Firefox/Seamonkey.

Er, Mozilla is the name of the project that produced all of it (and the name of the foundation that currently owns it) . The foundation is the Gecko rendering engine, which underlies SeaMonkey, Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird, and Kompozer, as well as a few non-Mozilla products like the Flock browser, Songbird media player, and Komodo programmer's IDE from ActiveState.

I've been following the Mozilla efforts since it was still a development project of Netscape, and the first one I used was Netscape 6 (which should never have gotten out the door. The first usable code appeared in Netscape 7.)
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Feb 2010, 20:34    Post subject:  

Hi Dennis I've also been using mozilla based version since early Netscape , hmmm the first netscape I used was on windows 3.1, just before win95 came out, well since we are comparing, my first I programmed on was a C-64 and I was like 8yrs old when I made my first game, lol a pac-man game with sprite graphics, since at that time C-64 didn't have any games, I owned a pre-release demo not for sale version, my father paid off the computer store owner to sell one 4 months before they were actually release, my uncle worked at Commodore as a software designer and he sent me the programming books. Funny how things were back then. Also gecko is the layout engine for mozilla.

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"Source code for Mozilla software projects such as Firefox, Thunderbird, and XULRunner are managed collectively in a single Mercurial repository. This large codebase is referred to as the Mozilla codebase, the Mozilla source code, or just Mozilla. Before Gecko 1.9 had branched, CVS was used."
maybe do a readup Smile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozzila
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Feb 2010, 21:54    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
I've also been using mozilla based version since early Netscape , hmmm the first netscape I used was on windows 3.1, just before win95 came out,

I'm going to be picky here, because I'm fussy about terminology. As a programmer, you are well aware that if you call something by the wrong name, the results won't be what you want.

I used Netscape stuff back then, too: Netscape Navigator 3, and later Netscape Communicator 4. (For that matter, I used the ancient NSCA Mosaic browser, and odd entrants like Sun's HotJava browser effort, written entirely in Java.) But it wasn't Mozilla back then. It was Netscape. You'll recall that Mozilla was Netscape's code name for the internal project intended to be the followup for Netscape Communicator.

Netscape 6 was the first code actually released by the Mozilla project. (And the source for what would have been Netscape 5, before they decided to toss out the baby with the bathwater and do a total rewrite was still available in their repositories the last I knew.)

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well since we are comparing, my first I programmed on was a C-64 and I was like 8yrs old when I made my first game, lol a pac-man game with sprite graphics, since at that time C-64 didn't have any games, I owned a pre-release demo not for sale version, my father paid off the computer store owner to sell one 4 months before they were actually release, my uncle worked at Commodore as a software designer and he sent me the programming books.

The first computer I used professionally was an IBM mainframe at a bank in the 70s, running OS/VS1 (later upgraded to OS/MVS.) Gotta live a 370 class machine supporting about 500 remote users via CICS, on a machine with two megabytes of RAM supported by 16 megabytes of virtual storage... I also logged time on DEC PDP-11s running RSTS-E and RSX-11m+ and VAXes running VMS, and IBM PCs when the original IBM PC with a 4.77mhx 8088 CPU and a green mono monitor and two 360K floppy drives running MS-DOS 2.1 was beginning to displace the venerable Apple II in the business world, and Lotus 1,2,3 was single handedly forcing everyone to upgrade to a whole 640KB of RAM in the PC to hold the enormous Lotus worksheets they were creating.

The first Unix machine I used was a Cyb Systems box based on a Motorola 680X0 CPU in the early 80s. The first computer I had at home (and still own) was an AT&T 3B1, a single user workstation with a bit-mapped monochrome console and mouse, based on a 10mhz Motorola 68010 CPU, which would boot and run a port of AT&T Unix System V Release 2, a full multi-user, multitasking OS, in one megabyte of memory and perform useful work. Give it more and it flew. (A client back then was supporting 5 users on dumb terminals and a printer, running a specialized distribution management package on a 3B1 with 2MB of RAM. Performance was acceptable, thank you.)

I didn't get a PC clone till well after the 3B1, but logged time on MS-DOS 2.11, 3.3, and 5.0, then Windows for Workgroups 3,11, Win95, Win98SE, Win2K Pro, and WinXP Pro (which I triple boot with Ubuntu 9.10 on the desktop.) At various offices, ad WinNT 4, OS/2 Warp, Novell Netware 4, Sun OS, SCO Open Server 5, and various versions of Solaris.

I logged time on C64's, too, using GEOS and other thjngs.

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Funny how things were back then. Also gecko is the layout engine for mozilla.

I said that above.

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and I Quote
"Source code for Mozilla software projects such as Firefox, Thunderbird, and XULRunner are managed collectively in a single Mercurial repository. This large codebase is referred to as the Mozilla codebase, the Mozilla source code, or just Mozilla. Before Gecko 1.9 had branched, CVS was used."
maybe do a readup Smile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozzila
ttuuxxx

Okay, I was referring to the underlying Gecko engine as the base on which Firefox and Kompozer rested. You are referring to Mozilla as the entire code base. Fair enough, and I'll agree.
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Feb 2010, 18:25    Post subject:  

Thank you for this Bluefish 2.0.0
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jul 2010, 19:36    Post subject: How to use Opera 10.60 with Bluefish SOLVED
Subject description: Browser location: /mnt/home/opera/program/opera
 

First: I use Bluefish 2 every day since it appeared, and used 1.07 for several years before that.

Second: I've used Opera as long as it's been around. But now that I've installed Opera 10.60, latest and greatest in the recommended way, outside the pup-save, I've had to make various little changes to get it connected here and there. One I had to solve is how to add this Opera as the default external browser command.

(Actually I couldn't get Bluefish to retain ANY new external browser commands. I was inputting and then hitting OK, as the manual says. Turns out one has to hit ENTER!)

EDIT: Turns out there was nothing wrong with Bluefish, which I like very much, just the half baked way the Opera 10.60 .pet integrates into Puppy.

Bluefish is again working perfectly for me. And so is the new Opera (mostly).

Sorry for the confusion.
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PostPosted: Sat 26 Mar 2011, 23:51    Post subject: Bluefish, EDIT,
Subject description: Upgrade from 2.0.0 to 2.02 or 2.0.3 in QNop12
 

I've been using Bluefish for years, 1.07 and now 2.0, very satisfactorily. Would like to try a later version.

I don't know how much better 2.02 is than 2.0. 2.0.3 sounds like a much bigger advance but I haven't found a pet for it. (Sorry - I am not into compiling.)

Have tried several versions of 2.02 found here in puppy, and none work in QirkyNOP 12, which has a 2.6.33.2 kernel. Yes, I have installed the required gtk+-2.16.6-i486.pet.

Anyone have a pet fo Bluefish-2.0.3 that might work in QNop12?

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PostPosted: Thu 13 Sep 2012, 18:41    Post subject: Need pet for new Bluefish-2.2.3 with thanks!
Subject description: Currently using v. 2.2.1 (slightly buggy)
 

http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/download.html

Bluefish is still the best, but this new version has apparently fixed a lot of things and I hope has not grown too much. I've used earlier versions for years almost daily.

I will be using it in Racy (actually RacyNOP) 5.2.2

Thanks to the kind person who will (hopefully) do me and other Puppy users this good deed !
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 19:19    Post subject: Download link broken  

The download link in the first post for bluefish-2.0.0-i486.pet is not working.

And if it can be fixed does anyone know if bluefish-2xx is compatible with Puppy-412.

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 20:26    Post subject:  

It is 4yrs old, the forum reduce the size limit to 256kb and I really don't build puppy packages for distribution since woof necessitated umpteen different dumbass compatibilities. If you want it, ask for it in your distro specific thread.
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