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Gonna get me a Samsung laptop with Secret Spyware
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Wed 30 Mar 2011, 23:16    Post_subject:  Gonna get me a Samsung laptop with Secret Spyware
Sub_title: I Spy returns
 

Samsung laptops shipping with secret spyware: report

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/security/samsung-laptops-shipping-with-secret-spyware-report-20110331-1che2.html

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2011, 01:46    Post_subject:  

Unbelievable and flagrant

We have to start educating ourselves.
http://gauravjoshi.lefora.com/2010/03/01/every-thing-u-need-to-start-up-on-hacking-must-rea/
http://www.ghacks.net/2007/06/28/how-to-defeat-most-keyloggers-on-public-computers/

Installing alternative OS (OK we do that)
and generally accept that our hardware may be compromised. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2011, 02:45    Post_subject:  

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While setting up a new Samsung computer laptop with model number R525 in early February 2011, I came across an issue that mirrored what Sony BMG did six years ago. After the initial set up of the laptop, I installed licensed commercial security software and then ran a full system scan before installing any other software. The scan found two instances of a commercial keylogger called StarLogger installed on the brand new laptop. Files associated with the keylogger were found in a c:\windows\SL directory.

According to a Starlogger description, StarLogger records every keystroke made on your computer on every window, even on password protected boxes.

This key logger is completely undetectable and starts up whenever your computer starts up. See everything being typed: emails, messages, documents, web pages, usernames, passwords, and more. StarLogger can email its results at specified intervals to any email address undetected so you don't even have to be at the computer your[sic] are monitoring to get the information. The screen capture images can also be attached automatically to the emails as well as automatically deleted.


How do we know that not the other firms has similar. It is undetectable so there is no way to know without the special knowledge from that commercial security software.

Okay we boot up linux but how do we know that it is not built in to start up from wine in a linux version too?

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2011, 06:13    Post_subject:  

Nooby

Deep breaths.
Notice what it says on the front of the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy
That's right, 'DON'T PANIC'

Then you must learn a little of the Dark Side - not too much now . . . Wink
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/approved_entry/A78662082

Then you have to come up with a master plan to overcome
the evil doers.

There are sharks all around
http://www.tightwind.net/2011/01/android-isnt-about-building-a-mobile-platform/

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2011, 10:52    Post_subject: Testing confirms Samsung keylogger rumour just a false alarm  

Keep calm and carry on Cool: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/31/samsung_keylogger_rumour_debunked/
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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2011, 15:38    Post_subject:  

This is a little off subject, but did you know that if you install Google Chrome and then uninstall it, you are taken to a Google web site that wants feedback on why you are uninstalling it?
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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2011, 15:52    Post_subject:  

8-bit wow I love that behavior. Not! Smile

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did you know that if you install Google Chrome and then uninstall it, you are taken to a Google web site that wants feedback on why you are uninstalling it?


They totally depend on us to be under their absolute control. Smile

Xman good that you told us

Good that Samsung was not to blame but a commercial anti virus taht was that careless going on name and not real signatures of code giving misleading information. Shame on them.

But that google know everything that is most likely. But them are not alone at all. Was it BBC or PCWorld Mag or where did I get the info that ... of it was a TV Doc from TV4 England? Not sure but anyway there are hundreds of small "cottage" firms companies that track every person the world over and them sell the info on us to the advertising firm that wants that demography. Country, age sex interests.

So me being an old male liking bikes and robots would get ads that tell about latest leaning trike or something. That would be okay to me but they also know what religion and political preferences and such I am preferring. Bikes I don't mind but that they look into religious and political prefs that is not their biz at all. Shame on them.

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2011, 15:53    Post_subject:  

Thanks xman

Just came across this
http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/sec/2011/032811sec2.html

Apologies to all tin-hat who have taken a hammer to their Samsung laptops Embarassed

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