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Dingo


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PostPosted: Wed 06 Apr 2011, 08:06    Post subject:  

Now, as you can see, I'm heavily compiling new apps for Puppy 3.01 series (when possible, statically, so any puppy series can benefit of these binaries), unfortunately, on my new refurbished machine, HP d530 c, wireless is not working (the same wireless adapter NETGEAR WG311v3, works fine in Puppy 3.01 and 4.2.1 via ndiswrapper), I would be happy to support 4.3.1, if I'll able to solve wireless problem
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Apr 2011, 10:09    Post subject:  

What am I missing? In this thread, about bringing back Puppy 4.31, everyone is ignoring Puppy 4.3.2-SCSI 2.6.30.5 full older modem support. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=451886#451886

There was a Puppy 4.32 project, but ttuuxxx replaced it with Puppy 4.3.2-SCSI 2.6.30.5 full older modem support.

Am I misunderstanding something? It seems to me that this thread is rumbling along without knowing all the facts!

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Apr 2011, 02:17    Post subject:  

don922 wrote:
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Am I misunderstanding something? It seems to me that this thread is rumbling along without knowing all the facts!

I was going to mention 4.3.2 earlier in this thread, but then remembered sending a recent pm to ttuuxxx in which he replied that it was strictly a bugfix version, and that he's no longer supporting it.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Apr 2011, 07:20    Post subject:  

Dewbie wrote:
it was strictly a bugfix version, and that he's no longer supporting it.


Yet another piece of abandonware. Amazing how we turn our backs upon things that work.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Apr 2011, 08:39    Post subject: bring back puppy 431.
Subject description: Lost version 431 _26305
 

Hi,

- There was a really swell "exe" version of 431 2.6.30.5, which was loaned and lost, and can't seem to find again because of hosting link failures. This was so easy for the windoze users as it installed directly and so cleanly. Wasn't (431) this also the version that "Pizzasgood" made real multi-user?

- As to someone modifing 431, would like to ask for a "don't load sfs to memory" switch. There is a forum link like "initrd-noram", but i've been unable to implement the suggestions <:( Duh

- I really respect the newer versions being made, because people with Vista and Win7 have become aware of choices - and want to try Puppy and only have recent hardware.
- But as this link points out, it would seem that much of my older hardware was made so well that it is not going to die soon, and 431 versions really never offer a problem, and there is a scuzi drive on one cabinet.
Live Long and Prosper - older Puppy's ;)

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Apr 2011, 12:51    Post subject: Re: Is Puppy 431 Dead
Subject description: Puppy 431 - Long may it live!
 

l2ulinux, et. al. wrote:
I to would love to see a NEW release of Puppy 431. I love to use the 431 version myself over the newer releases. I posted once before was Puppy 431 dead.
Please if you are someone else does do it. Please let me know.
I concur that puppy 4.3.1 can be useful to many and should be maintained to stay relevant. I don't see any mention here of my effort to keep 4.3.1 vital. My thread does not appear to be updated, because I maintain it by editing a set of postings by subject. Please check it out and consider using it as a central place to start customized upgrades.

Simplified Puppy 4.3.1/4.3.2 Upgrade Center:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=483889#483889

My initial goal was a single package to update 4.3.1 with all of my modem and modprobe improvements to keep puppy robust. It has grown from there. I continue to keep that package updated as I make further refinements (currently to support Lucid, but to be back-ported to the 4.3.1 upgrade package soon).

My intent is to add more "essential" updated package groups and a list of links to applications that will "just work". I am open to adding a section (posting) for the more daring upgrades like seamonkey and dependencies, but would rely on the more knowledgeable of you to advise on its content.

Let's continue discussion about it here, so as to leave that thread as an unintimidating resource. I look forward to working with all of you.

BTW, I do not care to create an entire new version of 4.3.1, and all that that entails, so am trying to make it easy to construct an improved 4.3.1. But I can support anyone caring to take on that project.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Apr 2011, 13:16    Post subject:  

In order to easily save video streams it is necessary for me to
use a newer Puppy like Wary or Luci.

If not for that issue, I would still be using 4.xx only.

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Apr 2011, 13:22    Post subject:  

I'm talking to rerwin about this topic.
Stay tuned Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Apr 2011, 15:56    Post subject:  

Ok it looks like its a go for this weekend as a start,
I'm not going to use woof, I'm going to manually edit the sfs and build the iso's.
The starting base is http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/puppy-4.3.1/pup-431.iso <-- iso
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/puppy-4.3.1/devx_431.sfs <-- devx
For this project to work we will need dedicated people willing to go above and beyond the call of duty, Why you may ask? Because that's what I do, and if I don't feel like its a worthwhile project, why would I waste time going any further with it.
I don't play around with wireless, so if there are any wireless pro's out there, speakup.
Basically what I will do is provide an updated base that modern versions of seamonkey/firefox will work on.
Plus I'll update the "P" applications, I don't see a need to update things like geany,mtpaint, etc because they are very stable as they are and usually later versions are larger in file size. Lets keep this release small as possible.
I'll change the calulators, icons, etc clean up the looks and games maybe.
after that I think we should be ok. What do you guys think.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Apr 2011, 16:44    Post subject:  

Sounds good ttuuxxx.

I am using an installation of your wonderful 432V3 for a long time now. Even managed to have Firefox 4.0 on /mnt/home plus Flash and the latest Java and additionally the newest Thunderbird. Surely you will know how to improve things, but it performs mighty good already.
Too bad the download link in this thread doesn't work anymore
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54082
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Apr 2011, 16:51    Post subject:  

Can I suggest to add my package of

graphicsmagick-1.3.12 ?
- http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=63437

it performs the same tasks of imagemagick but it is speeder and lighter in size

I tried to compile also the latest Pan (support for face added and more) but after unsuccessful attempts in Puppy 3.01
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65546

I had other problems trying to compile in Puppy 4.3.1

mupdf viewer
- http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=504948#504948

can be the default pdf viewer for pdf from browser, integrating the patch posted by our technosaurus

serious networking problems (unable to connect) with my wireless adapter NETGEAR WG311v3 are worth of investigation, in fact this adapter works without pain in 3.01, 4.2.1 and in Puppy classic 2.14 Top5 (but not in top7) via ndiswrapper, but in ant Puppy version higher than 4.2.1, no way to go online

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Apr 2011, 18:50    Post subject:  

Dingo wrote:
Can I suggest to add my package of

graphicsmagick-1.3.12 ?
- http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=63437

it performs the same tasks of imagemagick but it is speeder and lighter in size

I tried to compile also the latest Pan (support for face added and more) but after unsuccessful attempts in Puppy 3.01
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65546

I had other problems trying to compile in Puppy 4.3.1

mupdf viewer
- http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=504948#504948

can be the default pdf viewer for pdf from browser, integrating the patch posted by our technosaurus

serious networking problems (unable to connect) with my wireless adapter NETGEAR WG311v3 are worth of investigation, in fact this adapter works without pain in 3.01, 4.2.1 and in Puppy classic 2.14 Top5 (but not in top7) via ndiswrapper, but in ant Puppy version higher than 4.2.1, no way to go online


Hi dingo
mupdf is 533kb and doesn't have a gui, I did compile that over a year ago on 4 series its on the forum somewhere Smile But the size of it is too large, for that file size I could add Evince, last time I compiled it was 485.25 KB and it opens pdf, comic ,svg, tiff, impress ,jpg, png. But it does add an additional 200-300kb in deps, like gconf,orbit, but then I could add Gcaltool which is way better of a calculator than galculator, because it needs those deps also. Also FileRoller uses those deps.
But for now I'll have to focus on the backend first Smile
ttuuxxx

Oh ya that mupdf from the link you posted 533kb pet on 2.14X also, just had to make a system-link on ibjpeg.so.6 to libjpeg.so.7 Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Apr 2011, 19:05    Post subject:  

Another Things I thing, in long term, it is to begin to think to ipv6 support. I seen ipv6 module it is not in Puppy 4.3.1 kernel, but is is present in kernel sources
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Apr 2011, 19:15    Post subject:  

Dingo wrote:
Another Things I thing, in long term, it is to begin to think to ipv6 support. I seen ipv6 module it is not in Puppy 4.3.1 kernel, but is is present in kernel sources

Have a look at some of the apps that don't support it, like mysql
http://www.deepspace6.net/docs/ipv6_status_page_apps.html
it also says all Linux 2.6 includes a robust IPv6-enabled IPSEC stack derived from the USAGI Project IPSEC stack.
Might of been the apps you were testing.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Apr 2011, 20:55    Post subject:  

tlchost wrote:
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Yet another piece of abandonware. Amazing how we turn our backs upon things that work.

True, but we have to remember that ttuuxxx already has a lot on his plate with 2.14x...

Also, does anybody know what happened to the 4.4 that Technosaurus was working on a while ago?
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