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#21 Post by Eathray »

tempestuous wrote:
Eathray wrote:libcurl-gnutls.so.4 cannot open shared file or directory
OK, so Wary has a different version of libcurl (or it's missing). That just means you won't have cover art download support.

Eathray wrote:Next I input the code to follow
The manual commands only apply to the Ipod-Touch and iPhone.

With a Shuffle, you should just go into the Preferences menu and tell gtkpod what model you have ...
... which raises the point that you didn't tell us which version (generation) of Shuffle you have.
If you have a fourth generation 4G model, you may be out of luck.
http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+ ... ffleFourth
Okay, that was easier than I thought it would be.

This is the A1271, EMC 2262 (which according to an Apple site is 3'rd generation :D )

K, sorry about misunderstanding the directions. When there's a lot of info, I sometimes get overload.

I'm going to try launching gtkpod from the menu, then inserting the shuffle, and will report back.

Thanks,

Eathray

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#22 Post by Eathray »

Tempestuous,

K, that was a big nothing.

I need to go back through the directions you provided, but you mentioned the preferences. GKPod is not loading for me, so there's no preferences to select.

I will read through the directions and try to figure out what I've missed, and I'll get back to you with a real question.

thanks

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#23 Post by tempestuous »

Eathray wrote:GKPod is not loading for me
If you mean that the gtkpod gui fails to display when you launch it from the menu, I suggest you launch it from the commandline instead, as such -

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gtkpod
If nothing else, you should see some error messages which would reveal why it's failing to launch.
If the error messages are serious, it means that you cannot use gtkpod with Wary, and you must use Puppy 5.2.x instead.

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#24 Post by Eathray »

tempestuous wrote:
Eathray wrote:GKPod is not loading for me
If you mean that the gtkpod gui fails to display when you launch it from the menu, I suggest you launch it from the commandline instead, as such -

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gtkpod
If nothing else, you should see some error messages which would reveal why it's failing to launch.
If the error messages are serious, it means that you cannot use gtkpod with Wary, and you must use Puppy 5.2.x instead.
It does not launch from the command line and gives the same error message about: "libcurl-gnutls.so.4 cannot open shared file or directory, no such file or directory"

Seems to be getting stuck on that.

I've been looking for that lib file since I first got that message, but I can't find it. I'd like to try installing it and see if it suddenly works... Do you happen to know where I can find it?

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#25 Post by tempestuous »

Seven posts earlier you said this -
Eathray wrote:I launched it through the console and got the error message:
"libcurl-gnutls.so.4 cannot open shared file or directory, no such directory found.
... you didn't reveal at that time that gtkpod failed to launch!

Now that you have revealed this critical piece of information, it's clear that gtkpod won't launch unless it finds libcurl.
So I now need you to look in /usr/lib (using ROX) to see if there's a version of libcurl-gnutls and libcurl, and if so, give me the exact filenames. The filenames will be of this format:
libcurl-gnutls.so.x.x.x
libcurl.so.x.x.x

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#26 Post by Eathray »

tempestuous wrote:Seven posts earlier you said this -
Eathray wrote:I launched it through the console and got the error message:
"libcurl-gnutls.so.4 cannot open shared file or directory, no such directory found.
... you didn't reveal at that time that gtkpod failed to launch!

Now that you have revealed this critical piece of information, it's clear that gtkpod won't launch unless it finds libcurl.
So I now need you to look in /usr/lib (using ROX) to see if there's a version of libcurl-gnutls and libcurl, and if so, give me the exact filenames. The filenames will be of this format:
libcurl-gnutls.so.x.x.x
libcurl.so.x.x.x
Honest, I wasn't trying to hide the critical info... I'm still a newbee at a lot of things! I meant to say, I tried to launch it but it didn't.

Okay, here are the files:

libcurl.so
libcurl.so.4
libcurl.so.4.1.1

That appears to be it. No libcurl-gnutls.so of any number, at least in that location.

I've been looking for the file libcurl-gnutls.so.4, and there's lots of mention of it in the forums... I just haven't found it to download.

Thanks,

Eathray

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#27 Post by tempestuous »

EDIT:
Wary requires many additional libraries for this gtkpod-1.0 package to work.
These libraries are now attached to the first post in this thread.
Last edited by tempestuous on Fri 22 Apr 2011, 08:57, edited 1 time in total.

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#28 Post by Eathray »

tempestuous wrote:OK, this is a bit rough; I just packaged the libcurl-gnutls files from Puppy 5.1, so they're not 100% binary compatible with Wary, but they should be OK.
Install this dotpet, then launch gtkpod from the commandline again.
Well, that must have worked, because it doesn't ask for the libcurl-gnutls file anymore...

Now it wants liblber-2.4.so.2

:oops:

What next?

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Eathray

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#29 Post by Eathray »

Eathray wrote:
tempestuous wrote:OK, this is a bit rough; I just packaged the libcurl-gnutls files from Puppy 5.1, so they're not 100% binary compatible with Wary, but they should be OK.
Install this dotpet, then launch gtkpod from the commandline again.
Well, that must have worked, because it doesn't ask for the libcurl-gnutls file anymore...

Now it wants liblber-2.4.so.2

:oops:

What next?

Thanks,

Eathray
How do you guys find these libraries, anyway? I keep looking for this stuff and all I find is people talking ABOUT them... then you pop in with a full .pet package.

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#30 Post by tempestuous »

EDIT:
Wary requires many additional libraries for this gtkpod-1.0 package to work.
These libraries are now attached to the first post in this thread.
Last edited by tempestuous on Fri 22 Apr 2011, 08:58, edited 1 time in total.

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#31 Post by Eathray »

tempestuous wrote:liblber.
That was quick (ha-ha)

okay, the .pet installed, but the console does not see the files. Previously you had me look at /usr/lib for the other files, so I went there, and I found they were not there. Under /usr there is a new folder /usr/lbr... I don't think it was there before and the folder was bold, so I'm guessing that's where it went?

Do I migrate them into /usr/lib, or perhaps sym-link them?

Thanks

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#32 Post by tempestuous »

Eathray wrote:Do I migrate them into /usr/lib
Yes.
I'm not near my computer at the moment to check, but it appears I rushed and made an error.

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#33 Post by Eathray »

tempestuous wrote:
Eathray wrote:Do I migrate them into /usr/lib
Yes.
I'm not near my computer at the moment to check, but it appears I rushed and made an error.
Okay,

That worked perfectly, migrated the files into /usr/lib...

Now it wants libldab_r-2.4.so.2

I hope it doesn't want too many more :?

...but at least when we're done, there will be everything somebody needs to make this gig work on Wary in one place :)

Continuing thanks,

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#34 Post by tempestuous »

This situation was getting way out of hand, and seriously messing up the informational value of this forum thread.
So I just downloaded Wary 5.1.1 and tested gtkpod-1.0.
Wary needs to be updated with no fewer than 14 additional library files!
I have just posted a dotpet with these libraries in the first post.

Frankly, if gtkpod is important to you, it makes better sense to use Puppy 5.2.x

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#35 Post by Eathray »

tempestuous wrote:This situation was getting way out of hand, and seriously messing up the informational value of this forum thread.
So I just downloaded Wary 5.1.1 and tested gtkpod-1.0.
Wary needs to be updated with no fewer than 14 additional library files!
I have just posted a dotpet with these libraries in the first post.

Frankly, if gtkpod is important to you, it makes better sense to use Puppy 5.2.x
Unfortunately, It's an older machine, and the best performance is from Wary, but let me say how much I appreciate your help in making this deal possible for Wary. It's a huge deal to my boy to be able to buzz along with his ipod without switching to Windows just to load a song or two.

Much thanks, and I'll back up to the original post to check out the libraries. I can be your first Wary tester maybe.

I'll let you know if all is well.

Continuing thanks

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#36 Post by Eathray »

tempestuous wrote:This situation was getting way out of hand, and seriously messing up the informational value of this forum thread.
So I just downloaded Wary 5.1.1 and tested gtkpod-1.0.
Wary needs to be updated with no fewer than 14 additional library files!
I have just posted a dotpet with these libraries in the first post.

Frankly, if gtkpod is important to you, it makes better sense to use Puppy 5.2.x
IT WORKS! YAY!!!

I'm going to try to load a song and see what happens :D

Eathray

Update:

Okay, the GTKPod ipod manager now loads. The ipod is not yet syncing but I need to go back and re-read all the set up directions. I got a good feeling that this is all shortly going to be a good deal :)

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#37 Post by Eathray »

Tempestuous,

Working through the directions...

My kid's shuffle is not recognized on plugging in, so I went to the code to mount manually:

/usr/sbin/usbmuxd -u -U root -v -v

This line then appears in the process manager as you said, but the next lines which include the UUID do not appear in the log.

Trying to figure what info you might need to know what's going on.

The Shuttle is mounted as sdb1 (/mnt/sdb1); it seems to me I remember someone else's device mounted as sdc.

The usbmuxd files are located in a file called 'Run' in bold: /var/run
It seems to be indicating that I should run something there, but they don't run by clicking... no run action specified, etc. Maybe a terminal command?

I suppose I need the UUID code to extend the file system, so... I need usbmuxd to work first?

What other info can I offer?

Much thanks :)

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#38 Post by tempestuous »

As I said earlier, the manual setup commands only apply to the Ipod-Touch and iPhone, which have a communication protocol not shared by other iPod models.

The only setup process you should need to perform is select (or detect?) the correct model in gtkpod's menu.
Eathray wrote:This is the A1271, EMC 2262 (which according to an Apple site is 3rd generation)
Third-gen Shuffles are definitely compatible with gtkpod, as confirmed by forum member winderix, and also here -
http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+ ... uffleThird
... however, your model number is not listed, so I suspect you have a newer model which gtkpod has not caught up with yet?
Sure enough, your model number is reported as incompatible here -
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ipo ... atch=a1271

Unfortunately you probably need to wait for the next version of gtkpod.
I will be updating this version to gtkpod-2.0 once the developers reach a stable release of the underlying libgpod.

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#39 Post by Eathray »

tempestuous wrote:As I said earlier, the manual setup commands only apply to the Ipod-Touch and iPhone, which have a communication protocol not shared by other iPod models.

The only setup process you should need to perform is select (or detect?) the correct model in gtkpod's menu.
Eathray wrote:This is the A1271, EMC 2262 (which according to an Apple site is 3rd generation)
Third-gen Shuffles are definitely compatible with gtkpod, as confirmed by forum member winderix, and also here -
http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+ ... uffleThird
... however, your model number is not listed, so I suspect you have a newer model which gtkpod has not caught up with yet?
Sure enough, your model number is reported as incompatible here -
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ipo ... atch=a1271

Unfortunately you probably need to wait for the next version of gtkpod.
I will be updating this version to gtkpod-2.0 once the developers reach a stable release of the underlying libgpod.
Darn!

Well, I'll just have to wait I guess. Thanks for all your help. I look forward to gtkpod 2.0.

Eathray

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#40 Post by artifus »

@eathray : i don't know if this will be of any use to you but here is my recent ipod experience.

i was given an old ipod video sometime ago that i had absolutely no luck with what so ever in puppy nor xp and, refusing to use itunes as i'd heard many a horror story about it commandeering, rearranging and sometimes deleting media libraries plus the fact that it drove my firewall nuts when booted making me uncomfortable with how much it wanted to 'phone home' i gave up some months ago.

a recent bout of insomnia lead me to have another go, reading many a wiki, troubleshooting page and forum post, bouncing between 3 different os's resulting in much frustration and hair pulling with occasional detection and access followed by random unexplainable denial of existence.

by an eventual reboot from linux fluke, which i shall explain shortly, xp recognised it as a usb mass storage device allowing me access long enough to install rockbox over the original firmware**. yay! i transferred some files, disconnected and had a bit of a boogie in front of the hi-fi. i later reconnected to add more tunes with no joy. back to square one - flummoxed.

here's what i learned. ipods must be fully charged to the max in order to have enough power to communicate with your pc over long usb cables. i had been connecting via a (cheap!) 3 meter extension cable which it could not cope with on less than a full capacity battery which dwindles quite quickly. hence the occasional detections. (i had never experienced this problem with other media devices, hard drives, usb sticks or sd card readers over this same connection ever before nor since.) plugging the short usb cable that came with the player (actually a cheap one i bought at market) directly into a usb port i have no problems accessing the ipod as a mass storage device. have had no luck with gtkpod as yet but now see no need.

tl:dr version:

use a short usb cable direct to usb port - no ext cables and no hubs.
if you have access to windows (wine?) download and use the rockbox utility - it rocks!

hope that helps - or was, at least, an entertaining read.
good luck.

**edit** - not completely true as it can dual boot to original firmware as required.
ohm's where the art is

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