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[dawg]

Suggestion:
I think a screenshot or two somewhere at the beginning of this thread would help some people decide more easily whether they want to try out these apps.

[zigbert]

dawg
You're right, but sometimes you have to take a risc
DuDE was developed as a project to extend JWM in Puppy Stardust and later Puppy 4.4. When later Puppies hasn't adopted the idea of an 'improved' workflow on the Puppy desktop, it is perhaps best to lay low. There is no need of using too many resources on a private project. To help Puppy the best I can, I should work on stuff to improve the official release.


Sigmund

[scsijon]

I take it this is still the latest and greatest ziggy?

going to try it on a second copy of 525

any known problems or gotya's?

thanks
scsijon

[zigbert]

scsijon
The biggest conflict is that DuDE does replace /usr/sbin/fixmenus with one heavily improved for JWM. It means you get trouble when going back to OpenBox and installs new programs. Maybe I update this someday, but to be honest, I do not understand the logic in having 2 default window managers. DuDE is built around JWM - ONLY.


Sigmund

[scsijon]

thanks ziggy, not a problem for me,

I only use jwm at present and i've modified the menu system anyway to suit me by putting groups as I want them

[zigbert]

If you have any suggestions to improving DuDE, please let us know.


Sigmund

[sfoster]

Hello Zigbert,
I'm writing to report a problem with the DUDE package you wrote for puppy. On both occasions of my trying it, DUDE worked well in immediately after install, however when I restarted X as per the on-screen instructions, problems began happening. The first time around, the Jwm pineboard completely disappeared, leaving me with no way to access the menus. I don't remember the specifications for the first computer off the top of my head, other than the fact that it was a 2 GHz processor with 500 megs of RAM. But the second time I tried it was just now on a Dell latitude D610 laptop with 1.7 GHz, 500 MB of RAM and a Radeon Mobility X300 graphics card with 64 MB of memory. Once again, it worked okay until I restarted X. This time however, X didn't even restart properly and I was left with a bunch of weird lines on top of my screen. There were two other differences that may be of importance. The first time I tried DUDE, I didn't bother installing the key Pwidgets package. This time I did. I also used two different versions of Slacko. My most recent attempt was on the beta release, whereas the first one was on the one released just before that.

Now that Slacko appears to have Jwm as its main window manager again, DUDE seems like it would be a really neat package to include in the final release. Personally, I think things like Pshutdown help make puppy look a lot more professional. Should it ever come down to a vote, mine would be in favor of including DUDE. Thanks for such a neat package.
Yours,
S

EDIT:
I'm pretty sure its a slacko problem as apposed to a DUDE problem in the second case because I tried rebooting (to ram), doing an autoprobe for graphics cards then restarting X. Same problem. I tried rebooting again, autoprobing then selecting "test". The test worked, but I never got to jwm. Tried rebooting again, this time to Xvesa... never made it to the desktop. To see if the first problem persists, I will try again on a stable release.
S
EDIT 2:
Yep, its probably a slacko problem in the first case as well, because DUDE is running fine on my copy of puppy 525. I dont know if this makes any difference, but mine is a customized version of 525 with pwidgets installed, so I havent had the opportunity to test it without pwidgets.
S