Fluppy 013

[don570]

I decided to test if a full install of Fluppy was possible.
I'm delighted to report that it is!!

I selected a small partition sdb5 (700mb) on my second hard drive (sdb)
for the installation. It had been used as a swap partition.

I reformated it to ext3 and burnt the fluppy iso to a CD.

I booted from the CD and ran the
full install app(universal). I kept the MBR location in the same place (sda)



grub4dos created the menu.lst file . Here's the listing...

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# Full installed Linux

title Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (sda1)
  uuid 0183f2fd-72eb-487f-beeb-ae20434e3c62
  kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro
  initrd /initrd.img

title Fluppy 013 (sdb5/boot)
  uuid 4612583f-ae3a-465e-89c0-a3260ef03ff2
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb5 ro

I've been using it for a couple of days now and there's no
problem except that partitions with a label will show up
in the save dialog box as both the label name and the linux name.


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If you try a full install on a partition which doesn't have
enough room (<500mb) ,unfortunately you don't get a clear
warning message.

Then when you try to boot up you will get strange
confusing warning messages that don't mention that the
installation wasn't successful.

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[edoc]

Anyone updated to this?

Any problems observed?

As part of Mozilla's ongoing stability and security update process,
SeaMonkey 2.0.14 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as a free
download from www.seamonkey-project.org.

[bignono1]

Hello,
Am getting a no supported PnP or PCI card found when running alsaconf, to get my sound card working, although it is working on older puppies .
Sound card is es1968,OS is fluppy 007.
Installed fluppy013 , same problem with the sound card,i'll try what don570
adviced.

[don570]

get my sound card working

When I have trouble getting my sound input(line) to be recognized
for capture, I install Audacity and it has always found
my sound chip. I set Audacity for 'line' input, then I
set the sound level with alsamixer.

Get a version of audacity that (hopefully) works on fluppy7 from
http://www.smokey01.com/jemimah/pet_repo/

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[bignono1]

Downloaded and ran audacity pet ,no luck with fluppy-13 ,the sad message was:could not find any audio devices.

[don570]

the sad message was:could not find any audio devices.

That's not a good sign. I've never had that message , even when I was having
trouble setting up my machine.

But the good news, from playdayz I see that there is a new alsa driver 1.0.24
that claims that it solves some problems with some sound boards.

What I suggest is install lucid puppy 5.2.5 then install Playdayz new alsa pet
and report back on this thread if it works correctly.

Someone might be kind enough to compile it for Fluppy if it turns out to
be good.

By the way the instructions for compiling are..

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In short, a safe combination for the recent distros is:
	./configure --with-debug=full --enable-dynamic-minors \
		--with-moddir=updates

however installing a sound driver could be tricky.
Here are the links...

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 54&t=67434
http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index. ... 23_v1.0.24
http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main

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[bignono1]

I gave up , ES1968 sound card seems not a good pal with fluppy.

[tatamata]

I have installed fluppy to HD on acer Aspire Happy One with previously installed recent Ubuntu (with Unity).
I hoped that I will have dual boot, but whenever I reboot, Ubuntu is automatically started without GRUB asking which system to boot.
What should I do in order to enable dual boot?
I suppose it is something about GRUB configuration?
Thank you in advance.

[scabz]

I have installed fluppy to HD on acer Aspire Happy One with previously installed recent Ubuntu (with Unity).
I hoped that I will have dual boot, but whenever I reboot, Ubuntu is automatically started without GRUB asking which system to boot.
What should I do in order to enable dual boot?
I suppose it is something about GRUB configuration?
Thank you in advance.

turn on pc then quickly Hold down Shift until grub menu comes up then select OS you want to use, or when in ubuntu click in menu go to administration then find StartUP-Manager it can change grub defalt boot or other things.

[Sage]

I decided to test if a full install of Fluppy was possible.

Already reported some while ago. Might find some comments there - can't remember, except everything still working for me on a range of different systems.

[Eyes-Only]

Hi Doc!

You'd asked whether anyone was using the most recently updated SeaMonkey ( 2.0.0.14 I believe is the newest as you've stated above? ) and if it worked on Fluppy-13?

I'm pleased to report that it's working fine and dandy here on my frugal install of Fluppy-13.

However, my SeaMonkey install ( as well as my Firefox-4.0.1 and Thunderbird-3.0.19 I believe are the latest? ) are rather "unconventional installs", in that I have one of each on the first partition ( /sda1 ) of my drive followed by 14 absolute links of those installs and profiles peppered throughout the hard drive where I have either hard drive or frugal installs.

And they all work like a charm! ( But this was written in Midori as I love playing with browsers. lol )

HTH somewhat Doc!

Cheers/Amicalement,

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge d'Acadie"

[tatamata]

I have installed fluppy to HD on acer Aspire Happy One with previously installed recent Ubuntu (with Unity).
I hoped that I will have dual boot, but whenever I reboot, Ubuntu is automatically started without GRUB asking which system to boot.
What should I do in order to enable dual boot?
I suppose it is something about GRUB configuration?
Thank you in advance.

turn on pc then quickly Hold down Shift until grub menu comes up then select OS you want to use, or when in ubuntu click in menu go to administration then find StartUP-Manager it can change grub defalt boot or other things.

But, in the grub list there is no fluppy. How to add fluppy to the list?

[myke]

Tatamata, what I do is install Fluppy (or any other Puppy) on a USB drive and boot up in it. Then install grub4dos (if necessary) and run it.

The application grub4dos creates a new boot-loader and menu.lst - Reboot into your hard disk and use the entry for Fluppy in menu.lst to boot it and the "Find GRUB2" entry to boot Ubuntu (or any other GRUB2 distro).

If you have also installed a Fedora-based GRUB2 distro, be aware that Fedora thinks it lives in a universe by itself. From Ubuntu, run grub-update and ask it to find other OS's (it will but not Puppy).

myke

[tatamata]

Tatamata, what I do is install Fluppy (or any other Puppy) on a USB drive and boot up in it. Then install grub4dos (if necessary) and run it.

The application grub4dos creates a new boot-loader and menu.lst - Reboot into your hard disk and use the entry for Fluppy in menu.lst to boot it and the "Find GRUB2" entry to boot Ubuntu (or any other GRUB2 distro).

If you have also installed a Fedora-based GRUB2 distro, be aware that Fedora thinks it lives in a universe by itself. From Ubuntu, run grub-update and ask it to find other OS's (it will but not Puppy).

myke

An error happens during grub4dos execution that is logged:
"/usr/sbin/grub4dosconfig PBS
version 1.7
Uto Svi 3 21:02:02 CEST 2011
BINSTALLER=bootlace.com
sda(MBR)_160.0GB_ATA_WDC_WD1600BEVT-2
fd0_(FLOPPY_DISK)
sda1_(ext4)_146,121GB_
sdb_524MB_512MB_USB2.0FlashDrive
sdb1_(vfat)_499MB_
PCPARTS:
/dev/sda1|ext4|153219072
/dev/sdb1|vfat|511500

LPART:/dev/sda1|ext4|153219072
CHAINLOADER=
sda1/puppy013/flp-013.sfs|flp_013
sdb1/flp-013.sfs|flp_013
sda1/initrd.img,/vmlinuz|Ubuntu_11.04

sdb1/flp-013.sfs|flp_013|Linux

Wrigting... /mnt/sda1/menu.lst
/dev/sda Bootalbe: yes,
cp: cannot stat `': No such file or directory
Failed to install extlinux.
"

[myke]

Tatamata, are you using unetbootin to install puppy? It really doesn't work that well for puppy.

What is your configuration?

myke

[tatamata]

Seems to be difficult to add Fluppy to existing grub?

[tatamata]

Tatamata, are you using unetbootin to install puppy? It really doesn't work that well for puppy.

What is your configuration?

myke

Yes, I used Unetbootin to install Fluppy to USB.
Now I want to install from USB to HD on the netbook.
But, the grub4dos does not update the grub...
The menu.lst has been copied to the root directory, but the grub still does not list fluppy...

[edoc]

I'm pleased to report that it's working fine and dandy here on my frugal install of Fluppy-13.

And they all work like a charm! ( But this was written in Midori as I love playing with browsers. lol )
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge d'Acadie"

Thanks!

I have been experimenting with Midori as well and find little reason to choose the much larger Seamonkey browser over the compact-Midori -- the challenge is Claws -- I am not yet comfortable with it and wish there was a script to link between the two (because I always forget the simple steps - I need to print and ring-binder them).

[myke]

Tatamata,
Here is what I do. (and I do this often).

I use Gparted to create a partition on the hard disk.

If you want to fully install puppy, follow this procedure:

Make the new partition you want to create extended. Inside the extended partition, create as many (sub-)partitions as you want to be full-install Puppies. Each new full-install puppy goes in its own partition. (They will be labelled sda5, sda6, etc. because sda1 through sda4 are reserved for primary partitions - you are only allowed four of these primary partitions). Use the puppy on the USB drive to do the full install of a puppy to each new partition using Puppy Universal Installer.


If you want to make ONLY frugal install Puppies, follow this procedure:

You can make the new partition a primary partition. Double-click on the iso file containing the new puppy you are going to install. This will cause the files compressed in the iso to appear. Create a sub-directory for each new Puppy and copy the files from the iso to the new sub-directory.. Repeat this for each new Puppy you want to create.

Now, follow this procedure after getting the files into the new puppies whether by new full-installs or by frugal installs:

Launch grub4dos from the systems menu, make sure that only your hard disk is selected (the first box) and check the box in the grub4dos menu to ensure grub4dos will only look in your hard disk. Click OK to run the grub4dos program. When that program is finished, you can look at the menu.lst it makes and you can edit the titles. The heading "Find GRUB2" is used to access all the variants of Ubuntu and other GRUB2 distributions you have installed.

To finish the procedure, reboot and use the new menu.lst to select the OS [Operating system] you want.

That's what I do to access my Puppy Linuxes again every time I install a new OS like Ubuntu on my hard disk.

myke

[tatamata]

myke,
The menu.lst file has been created in the root directory. I copied it also to /boot/grub.
However, it seems it does not affect the start-up window at all. The grub list is still the old one, even after I did: sudo update-grub in Ubuntu.