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tatamata

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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 16:10    Post subject:  

Seems to be difficult to add Fluppy to existing grub?
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tatamata

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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 16:13    Post subject: Re: Caution  

myke wrote:
Tatamata, are you using unetbootin to install puppy? It really doesn't work that well for puppy.

What is your configuration?

myke

Yes, I used Unetbootin to install Fluppy to USB.
Now I want to install from USB to HD on the netbook.
But, the grub4dos does not update the grub...
The menu.lst has been copied to the root directory, but the grub still does not list fluppy...
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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 16:38    Post subject:
Subject description: SeaMonkey-2.0.0.14 & Fluppy-13 ( For Doc )
 

Eyes-Only wrote:

I'm pleased to report that it's working fine and dandy here on my frugal install of Fluppy-13. Smile

And they all work like a charm! ( But this was written in Midori as I love playing with browsers. lol )
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Thanks!

I have been experimenting with Midori as well and find little reason to choose the much larger Seamonkey browser over the compact-Midori -- the challenge is Claws -- I am not yet comfortable with it and wish there was a script to link between the two (because I always forget the simple steps - I need to print and ring-binder them).

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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 17:49    Post subject: What to do  

Tatamata,
Here is what I do. (and I do this often).

I use Gparted to create a partition on the hard disk.

If you want to fully install puppy, follow this procedure:

Make the new partition you want to create extended. Inside the extended partition, create as many (sub-)partitions as you want to be full-install Puppies. Each new full-install puppy goes in its own partition. (They will be labelled sda5, sda6, etc. because sda1 through sda4 are reserved for primary partitions - you are only allowed four of these primary partitions). Use the puppy on the USB drive to do the full install of a puppy to each new partition using Puppy Universal Installer.


If you want to make ONLY frugal install Puppies, follow this procedure:

You can make the new partition a primary partition. Double-click on the iso file containing the new puppy you are going to install. This will cause the files compressed in the iso to appear. Create a sub-directory for each new Puppy and copy the files from the iso to the new sub-directory.. Repeat this for each new Puppy you want to create.

Now, follow this procedure after getting the files into the new puppies whether by new full-installs or by frugal installs:

Launch grub4dos from the systems menu, make sure that only your hard disk is selected (the first box) and check the box in the grub4dos menu to ensure grub4dos will only look in your hard disk. Click OK to run the grub4dos program. When that program is finished, you can look at the menu.lst it makes and you can edit the titles. The heading "Find GRUB2" is used to access all the variants of Ubuntu and other GRUB2 distributions you have installed.

To finish the procedure, reboot and use the new menu.lst to select the OS [Operating system] you want.

That's what I do to access my Puppy Linuxes again every time I install a new OS like Ubuntu on my hard disk.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 May 2011, 00:28    Post subject:  

myke,
The menu.lst file has been created in the root directory. I copied it also to /boot/grub.
However, it seems it does not affect the start-up window at all. The grub list is still the old one, even after I did: sudo update-grub in Ubuntu.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 May 2011, 01:09    Post subject:  

@tatamata: I think you may be using grub2, from Ubuntu, rather than Grub legacy or Grub4DOS.

This is a whole different beast and in my opinion to be avoided. Try installing grub4dos from within puppy linux, make sure to note where you are choosing to put the menu.lst file so you know where to find it for future reference.

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tatamata

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PostPosted: Wed 04 May 2011, 15:57    Post subject: grub agony  

OK. there was a procedure how to replace grub2 to grub legacy in Ubuntu, explained on Ubuntu forums. I have done that.
I have even managed to get grub to list both fluppy and Ubuntu.
However,
after that I could not start from grub neither Ubuntu, neither Fluppy. Shitty "Error 015" is raised every time.
Finally I lost my nerves and formated HD, removing previous Ubuntu installation. Then I installed Fluppy full again. New grub installation.
The same problem apears again: grub error "Error 15"...
Now, I really have no clue how to procede with this installation any more.
I can' beleive that I am not able to install fluppy just because of the grub shit!
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PostPosted: Wed 04 May 2011, 17:07    Post subject:  

There are threads that describe how to boot in frugal install using both grub4dos and grub2 chainloading. You should try out the built in grub4dosconfig tool in puppy and use it to install grub4dos and then if you want to do Ubuntu you could use a grub2 on a USB stick but have the iso on the HDD and boot from the usb but load the iso on the hdd instead. That has only drawback that it is not full install of Ubuntu mut maybe it allow Ubuntu to install on the usb or another usb?

Just my wild thoughts. I bow out now it is Jemimah's thread.

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sanderd

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PostPosted: Sun 08 May 2011, 11:06    Post subject: bluetooth audio not working / supported???
Subject description: bluetooth audio a2dp
 

hi all,

so far fluppy is the only puppy flavor which works best on my asus u1. except for bluetooth audio. general bluetooth does work.

anyone any idea?

searching the forum didn't help.

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added diagnose file
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[edit2]
i can make a connection to my bluetooth/ usb dac (cordette 160 audiophile dac) but no clue how to select it as an output for sound
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thanks,
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tlchost

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PostPosted: Fri 13 May 2011, 18:45    Post subject: Package Manager
Subject description: Can not uninstall packages
 

Just noticed that in fluppy13, the package manager will NOT uninstall packages.

Can someone confirm this behavior/offer a fix?

I have noticed the problem in
A. Live-CD
B. Bootable USB
C. Re-mastered Fluppy13

Thanks

Thom
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PostPosted: Sat 14 May 2011, 10:42    Post subject:  

I have tried version 13 ad have trouble using scim. shinobars language sfs doesn't work

Maybe it's the number.. 13..
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PostPosted: Tue 17 May 2011, 20:11    Post subject: package manager
Subject description: egg on face
 

It seems that the remaster I made of Fluppy 013 was bad...

Has anyone remastered Fluppy?

Is there some trick to it?

Thom
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tatamata

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PostPosted: Thu 19 May 2011, 05:27    Post subject: How to enable printing on fluppy?  

According to some advices in this and other forum threads, I have successfully installed cups-1.3.11 and the patch fluppy-cups-patch-1.0, along with some missing libraries. Also, I was able to restart cups scheduler.

However, I still don't know hot to enable printing. Is there some additional GUI software for managing printers that I should install? I don't see any printers manager software in fluppy...Have I missed something? I'm sorry if my question is stupid.
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PostPosted: Thu 19 May 2011, 05:50    Post subject:
Subject description: SeaMonkey-2.0.0.14 & Fluppy-13 ( For Doc )
 

edoc wrote:
Eyes-Only wrote:

I'm pleased to report that it's working fine and dandy here on my frugal install of Fluppy-13. Smile

And they all work like a charm! ( But this was written in Midori as I love playing with browsers. lol )
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge d'Acadie"


Thanks!

I have been experimenting with Midori as well and find little reason to choose the much larger Seamonkey browser over the compact-Midori -- the challenge is Claws -- I am not yet comfortable with it and wish there was a script to link between the two (because I always forget the simple steps - I need to print and ring-binder them).
You can't compare apples with oranges.
SeaMonkey is a suite. And thus integration is fluidly.
Midori is only a browser.
You have to add Claws and then compare.
And as you state find how to integrate the two.

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PostPosted: Thu 19 May 2011, 13:52    Post subject: Re: How to enable printing on fluppy?  

tatamata wrote:
According to some advices in this and other forum threads, I have successfully installed cups-1.3.11 and the patch fluppy-cups-patch-1.0, along with some missing libraries. Also, I was able to restart cups scheduler.

However, I still don't know hot to enable printing. Is there some additional GUI software for managing printers that I should install? I don't see any printers manager software in fluppy...Have I missed something? I'm sorry if my question is stupid.


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