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Wary Tiny (81mb)
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Tman


Joined: 22 Jan 2011
Posts: 814
Location: Toronto

PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2011, 15:04    Post subject:  Wary Tiny (81mb)
Subject description: A cut-down version of Wary 5.1.1
 

** If running from the Live-CD for the first time, please choose Pristine Boot Mode to avoid the overwriting of any "warysave" files you might have on your system.

Click here to download Wary Tiny 5.1.1
MD5: 4da8a4b6463483187581a105fc4b2bf1

Last Updated: Aug-28-2011

This was more of a side project, as my main focus is on improving Solidpup.
What I did was I took Wary 5.1.1-small and cut out all of the big apps such as:
- mplayer, flashplayer, seamonkey, abiword, gnumeric.
- a lot of smaller apps were removed as well.

Basically I use this puplet for one main purpose; to run virtualbox on a test system that has limited RAM.
But since I decided to share it, I prettied it up and added some small but useful apps.

Compatable software can be found in the Wary-based Solidpup thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67633&sid=0f80c7a8d49e6a1900674f0d09c9fc94

This puplet is offered AS IS.

Enjoy! Smile
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`f00


Joined: 06 Nov 2008
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Location: the Western Reserve

PostPosted: Sun 05 Jun 2011, 15:00    Post subject:
Subject description: fair enough
 

Nice size and a decent base with some interesting takes ('standard' and most other offerings haven't appealed to me much lately - either too big, too restricted or Neutral ).

A moment of consternation after the initial run and save (using liveCD multisession) - by default Tiny starts 'clean' (it took me a few tries to realize that I'd have to select the 'saved session' or 2nd boot option Embarassed for continuing on in a progressive manner). Very useful to have a fairly clean base with not much in the way (and that easily dealt with, not 'fighting' it to get it to do what you want).

Actually put together a dual-version (old&new) xfe package with addons and new tweaks, but need to trim the fat (4 mb Laughing - Mr Murga sure isn't going to let me attach that here!) but here's a sample screenie for levity



Good job and thanks again, Tman.
Very Happy
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Tman


Joined: 22 Jan 2011
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Location: Toronto

PostPosted: Sun 05 Jun 2011, 17:28    Post subject: ...  

Hi f00:
Good to hear that you found a use for this side project of mine. I see your point about the Live-CD booting clean by default. I did it becuase, I was afraid that Loading saved sessions would mess up people's warysave files..(from other wary-based pups). Perhaps it would be a better idea to change the boot order to what puppyians are normally accustomed to. I now realize that it is much better this way, if you are running from a multi-session CD...no need to choose the "Load Saved Session" option all the time.
It only occured to me after I read your post, as I only use Live-CD's for remastering purposes. I always do frugal installs by extracting the ISO to a new folder with ISOMaster, and then adding an entry in the Grub4Dos menu.lst file. Should I remaster it? Ah..why not...it's done! Very Happy. I added info for SFS-Exec while I was at it -- a very quick remaster.
Take Care!
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BHINTZ

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Jun 2011, 10:02    Post subject:  

Just a quick note of encouragement. I have been using wary tiny with wine and portable apps. The only issue I have encountered is with Iron or chromium. I have been unable to get either to run in this OS.

I also use solidpup quite often as both of these work quite well on my laptop - thinkpad T40

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Darkgame

Joined: 18 Mar 2011
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jun 2011, 10:42    Post subject:  

can u make a lucid tiny if possible?
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petihar

Joined: 09 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2011, 02:15    Post subject:  

Hello,
Oh yes a lucid525 tiny would be fine .... please Tman Rolling Eyes
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pdrito

Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 50

PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2011, 09:56    Post subject: Lucid Tiny  

Yes, Yes, Yes,

¡¡¡ That Tiny Lucid please. !!!

Is possible to have a version with xorg 7.5 natively on it ??

Thanks a lot for your work Tman.
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Tman


Joined: 22 Jan 2011
Posts: 814
Location: Toronto

PostPosted: Fri 10 Jun 2011, 16:33    Post subject: ...  

Hello all:

Sorry.. a Lucid Tiny probably is a no go..I recommend Lucid Lite for that.
If I remove the same apps from Lucid as I did from Wary small..I estimate that it will be around 100 megs. Wary small is only 105megs and Lucid is 128.

BHINTZ: I wish I could help you with the Iron-Chromium issue, but I have not really used them that much, let alone dissect their individual files. I assume that one of the apps which I have removed in Tiny has dependencies required for those browsers. I think I have a list saved somewhere. I will look for it on the weekend. I am quite busy at the moment and just wanted to get on murga-linux to quickly check and reply to my messages. An off-the-wall-guess would be to try installing sqlite and or flashplayer.

EDIT: When I said "list", I meant a list of what files I've removed from Wary-small to make Wary Tiny.

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Darkgame

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jun 2011, 23:57    Post subject:  

Owww... Alright, i will try lucid lite
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Tman


Joined: 22 Jan 2011
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Location: Toronto

PostPosted: Sat 11 Jun 2011, 19:38    Post subject: ...  

For those who are interested, here is a list of what I removed from Wary-small to create Wary Tiny. Unfortunately, I don't have a list of what I've added.
Quote:
abiword, afternoonstalker, asunder, axel
ayttm, batrachians, bcrypt, burgerspace
cgtkcalc, cosmosmash, desktop_icon_themes, didiwiki
ffconvert, flashplayer,fpm2, gdmap
gmeasures, gnumeric, goffice, gpptp
gtkam, gtk themes, hicolor-icon-theme, homebank
inkscapelite, jwm2, jwmconfig2, maze-rays
mhwaveedit, mplayer_codecs, mplayer_gui, mplayer-plugin
nicoedit, notecase, ogle, ogle_gui, osmo
pbackup, pdvdrsab, peasyscan, pmetatagger
pmirrorget, pnethood, pplog, pprocess
pptp, precord, prename, psip
ptiming, puppy-podcast-grabber, pupradio
pure_ftpd, pzchmview, rubix, seamonkey
sfs-convert, sgtt, snap2, sqlite
ssh_gui, xclip, xfprot, xlock_gui
xsane, xsoldier, ycalc, you2pup


Edit: for the updated version of Wary Tiny, I've added a newer sqlite from the repository. If I rememeber correctly, the original version doesn't have sqlite installed.

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Darkgame

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jun 2011, 01:35    Post subject:  

what about tiny 4.3.1? I know its outdated but i can make use of it
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Tman


Joined: 22 Jan 2011
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Location: Toronto

PostPosted: Sun 12 Jun 2011, 15:35    Post subject: ...  

Darkgame,
At the moment I am busy working on a Lucid-based version of Solidpup, named Slickpup. I am still working out a few quirks which I have discovered while testing it. After that I might totally redo Solidpup and base it on Shinobar's International Wary, if he's okay with it.

I might consider trying to make a tiny puppy 4.3.1 for learning purposes, but it may take some time. My first puppy was Lucid 5.1, which I used briefly, before I switched to Quirky NOP. Now I mainly use my own creations and I haven't tried very many of the older pups and am not as familiar with how packages are put together. So the answer to your question is ...maybe.

I haven't tried this myself, but you might wanna try: Browserlinux

Based on Puppy 4.3.1, it's only 77mb and has Firefox included.
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Darkgame

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jun 2011, 20:17    Post subject:  

alright. Thanks
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Tman


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jun 2011, 22:01    Post subject: ...  

Wine 1.3.22 SFS can be found here: http://www.smokey01.com/Tman/apps/

I haven't tested it thouroughly, but it seems to be compatable with both Wary and Lucid Pup. Thanks, coolpup.
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Trobin

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Location: BC Canada

PostPosted: Sat 20 Aug 2011, 21:57    Post subject:  

Just thought I'd link this here

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=665735249&t=24571&start=690

If anyone's interested.

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