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Aitch


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jul 2011, 13:26    Post subject:  

Puppyt/scottman

How about...

http://wiki.hiit.fi/display/it/eduroam+for+Linux+users

I think tunneled TLS for security may be a problem....



....as I don't recall seeing that before - maybe a different version of Network Manager...?

Note: if you get this far;

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After this you may be asked to allow Network Manager to access your keyring. You need to allow this practice if you wish to connect to eduroam. Unfortunately Network Manager isn't able to ask for a password when connecting to eduroam and thus your password needs to be stored to Gnome Keyring. Fortunately keyring's security is good.


So Gnome may be needed for keyring, too...?

HTH

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jul 2011, 20:32    Post subject:  

Many Thanks to you both, sc0ttman and Aitch - in your response to my earlier bleating about EduRoam. I certainly didn't mean to hijack your thread OR divert your attention away from your core project, sc0ttman (BTW the Network Connection dialogues look fab- can't wait to try it and all your other updates in your Puplite6, alpha 6+ AKITA - great name choice). "Real world" issues last week intervened with my investigations in the Puppiverse - still I dunno what happened to my notifications to updates on this thread.
Aitch - thanks for your legwork on the EduRoam issue - hadn't seen that site at all, hope to follow through with your suggestions (both of you) later today... and now "keyring" dependencies...
Cheers!

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Jul 2011, 12:08    Post subject: ubuntu light fonts
Subject description: any good?
 

Been playing with the JWM theme and Ubuntu fonts... I like the new fonts...
Especially the "Ubuntu Light" font, which I have added to GTK, JWM, also Firefox, etc..

But I have a problem - if I install the other Ubuntu fonts, the 'Light' font is ignored in JWM and replaced by one of the other Ubuntu fonts, depending on which others are installed.

I actually don't mind leaving out the other Ubuntu fonts too much, as each font is around 400kb!
I just hope it all works OK!

Here is what I have in all my JWM config files..
This is what works when I have only the 'Ubuntu Light' font installed (no other Ubuntu fonts)..

Code:
<Font>Ubuntu-L 12</Font>

Using anything else does not show the "Ubuntu Light" font, filename 'Ubuntu-L.ttf"
..which is what I want. Crying or Very sad

Anyway, here are some screenshots, pf the 'Ubuntu Light' font in action:
Thoughts are welcome.
jwm-menu.png
 Description   the jwm menu
 Filesize   40.85 KB
 Viewed   1558 Time(s)

jwm-menu.png

image-2.png
 Description   Ubuntu Light in ROX
 Filesize   54.11 KB
 Viewed   1527 Time(s)

image-2.png

image-3.png
 Description   Ubuntu Light in Firefox, size 13
 Filesize   306.82 KB
 Viewed   1514 Time(s)

image-3.png

image-1.png
 Description   New JWM theme & Ubuntu Light font, in VLC-GTK
 Filesize   650.49 KB
 Viewed   1520 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jul 2011, 12:19    Post subject:  

Uploading an alpha now.. my alpha 7...

Only tested on my home PC at the moment and 2 others at a local college..

This one is quite slick, I reckon, looks 'fresh' for a Puppy 4..
Boots straight to desktop on my PC, and the college PCs..
But not in vbox... which actually is good, cos you can choose Xvesa, isntead of Xorg Smile

Still loads of things to address...

- usability, use the first boot BaCon help guide thing
- make the devx updated and fixed (still compiles with a normal 420 devx)
- add a few pfix options
- clean up the menu
- add a few small apps that are still missing
- write a quickpet and openGL installer thing
- make shinobars sfs_load 1.1 work right (still using goingnuts version, which I like)
- ROX desktop disabled by default (for now), but easy to switch
- improve hardware support (probably well beyond me)

But I think I have improved the following:
- updated to: bash 4.2, busybox 1.18.4, jwm-500, xz
- updated to a Wary 512 "core" - same Glibc, X11, GDK, GTK, ffmpeg, etc
- pfix=usbsave.. disables real time saving to savefile in pupmode 12
- great codec support (x264, webm, etc)
- still uses vlc (1.1.5, no gui version) plus VLC-GTK
- themes, icons, mime types and looks
- cleanup of all useless files (I reckon)
- skips input device dialog, unless choosing serial port
- improved wallpaper setting (still a weak point)
- improved switching between ROX and "JWM only" desktops
- updated a few apps (startups, macchanger-gui, network wizard)
- updated loads of apps: PupApps, PupControl, Woofy, Geany, gFTP, pmusic, pburn, etc
- added BaCon and NicoEdit, plus PupTray as example
- added deadbeef
- added termit, a VTE terminal, used in Geany
- other stuff

Link to follow soon if anyone wants to test it ..
ISO size is about 85mb...

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jul 2011, 12:36    Post subject: Puplite 6, Alpha 7
Subject description: uploaded 19.7.2011, needs some work :)
 

Download the "Puplite6-alpha7" ISO file (more info above)

85mb, 5fdff192f38789a1fa47903905f54569

Main Download Page: http://www.multiupload.com/OBRF56XHPD

Which has these mirrors:

1 http://www.multiupload.com/RS_OBRF56XHPD
2 http://www.multiupload.com/DF_OBRF56XHPD
3 http://www.multiupload.com/FS_OBRF56XHPD
4 http://www.multiupload.com/ZS_OBRF56XHPD
5 http://www.multiupload.com/MU_OBRF56XHPD
6 http://www.multiupload.com/UP_OBRF56XHPD

Hmmm... Should I post a new thread in the Derivatives section?

EDIT: Don't use VLC-GTK to play audio files, unles you wanna open a terminal and run "killall vlc" and "killall vlc_nogui" afterwards :/

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jul 2011, 17:58    Post subject:  

Manual frugal install to an Armada M700 P3 450 with 320mb ram.
Xorg at 1024 x 768
TP link WN321G wireless USB adapter (WPA-PSK). Connected with standard Network-Wizard
All working well - browsing with OperaQT static. (Elinks wouldn't let me log in)

Just about to save and reboot. If the cat explodes I'll let you know....
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2011, 08:54    Post subject:  

Hi sc0ttman,
regarding setting of wallpaper.
If you are not using puppy pin you could use Feh image viewer for setting the background.

This is what i have in .xinitrc on lucid puppy 256 frugal install.

disables the puppy pin and makes the feh wallpaper persistent on reboot.

Code:
 #rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
 rox --pinboard=
 sh ~/.fehbg &


EDIT:
If you need a wallpaper setter i have a version of SimpleWALL http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69512 that uses Feh to set the background instead of Rox.

cheers.
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2011, 09:37    Post subject:  

stu90 wrote:
Hi sc0ttman,
regarding setting of wallpaper.
If you are not using puppy pin you could use Feh image viewer for setting the background.

This is what i have in .xinitrc on lucid puppy 256 frugal install.

disables the puppy pin and makes the feh wallpaper persistent on reboot.

Code:
 #rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
 rox --pinboard=
 sh ~/.fehbg &


EDIT:
If you need a wallpaper setter i have a version of SimpleWALL http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69512 that uses Feh to set the background instead of Rox.

cheers.

EDIT: Forgot to day, thanks for the Feh tip, gonna test it soon...

Hey Stu, thanks for the suggestion. I have a script that works reliably, even after reboot, as I have setup both JWM and ROX to only look for /usr/share/backgrounds/default.jpg, which is always a symlink to an image file.

My solution must work for both ROX and JWM setup.. And I also noticed that with later versions of JWM, you must remove the wallpaper settings from JWM config files, if running the ROX pinboard, or you can't see the icons...

But I've added Yad to puplite, and have been playing with a few GUIs, yours included, and was thinking that all your Simple*** GUIs, combined into a tabbed interface would be GREAT

...But the problem in Puplite is that the GUI for selecting the wallpapers is lacking, as I have not got around to letting users choose between "stretched", "centered" and "tiled", which I plan to do...

Also, I noticed JWM is a bit crap at showing a wallpaper image that is larger than the screen resolution - ROX manages OK, but it looks ugly in JWM, so I think, if the "JWM only" desktop is detected, I need to scale the image to match the resolution, then move or copy the scaled image to /usr/share/backgrounds/default.jpg

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2011, 09:53    Post subject:  

The cat's still in one piece...

Notes after a reboot.
Network connection needs initialising again. This is not uncommon so no biggee for me.
VLC-GTK won't stop playing a track, even after exit.
Retrovol wouldn't load at first until I changed the permissions. It keeps defaulting to 'mute' though. Have to open up the full window and check the PCM box as well as Main, or no sound. This is not retained after a reboot.
Installed Firedog as main browser now, and doing ok.

pmnet - I've tried this before on pupngo and 412. Does it actually do anything? Sits in the tray from first boot regardless of whether there's a connection and doesn't even give me a cursory blink. I want my money back!!
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2011, 10:32    Post subject:  

sc0ttman wrote:
stu90 wrote:
Hi sc0ttman,
regarding setting of wallpaper.
If you are not using puppy pin you could use Feh image viewer for setting the background.

This is what i have in .xinitrc on lucid puppy 256 frugal install.

disables the puppy pin and makes the feh wallpaper persistent on reboot.

Code:
 #rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
 rox --pinboard=
 sh ~/.fehbg &


EDIT:
If you need a wallpaper setter i have a version of SimpleWALL http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69512 that uses Feh to set the background instead of Rox.

cheers.

Hey Stu, thanks for the suggestion. I have a script that works reliably, even after reboot, as I have setup both JWM and ROX to only look for /usr/share/backgrounds/default.jpg, which is always a symlink to an image file.

My solution must work for both ROX and JWM setup.. And I also noticed that with later versions of JWM, you must remove the wallpaper settings from JWM config files, if running the ROX pinboard, or you can't see the icons...

But I've added Yad to puplite, and have been playing with a few GUIs, yours included, and was thinking that all your Simple*** GUIs, combined into a tabbed interface would be GREAT

...But the problem in Puplite is that the GUI for selecting the wallpapers is lacking, as I have not got around to letting users choose between "stretched", "centered" and "tiled", which I plan to do...

Also, I noticed JWM is a bit crap at showing a wallpaper image that is larger than the screen resolution - ROX manages OK, but it looks ugly in JWM, so I think, if the "JWM only" desktop is detected, I need to scale the image to match the resolution, then move or copy the scaled image to /usr/share/backgrounds/default.jpg


Hi Sc0ttman,
To be honest i haven't used JWM for quite a while now - but an idea for scaling the background for JWM - Vovchik made a nice little command line utility called picscale, you could use it with xwininfo to get screen res and scale to it.
Picscale download:http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=42741

Code:
WIDTH=`xwininfo -root |grep Width|cut -d: -f2`
HEIGHT=`xwininfo -root |grep Height|cut -d: -f2`

picscale -i /path/to/full-res-img.jpg -o /path/to/resized-img.jpg $WIDTH $HEIGHT 85
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2011, 15:05    Post subject:  

stu90 wrote:
Hi Sc0ttman,
To be honest i haven't used JWM for quite a while now - but an idea for scaling the background for JWM - Vovchik made a nice little command line utility called picscale, you could use it with xwininfo to get screen res and scale to it.
Picscale download:http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=42741

Code:
WIDTH=`xwininfo -root |grep Width|cut -d: -f2`
HEIGHT=`xwininfo -root |grep Height|cut -d: -f2`

picscale -i /path/to/full-res-img.jpg -o /path/to/resized-img.jpg $WIDTH $HEIGHT 85

That's exactly what I was gonna use, I saw it was posted as a lighter alternative to imageMagic.. Great minds think alike.. Very Happy

.. although now that I think about it, the icon_switcher tool (which I looked at when doing Woofy) already resizes and even converts icons when changing themes... Maybe I could have another look at that script ...

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:12    Post subject:  

Keef wrote:
The cat's still in one piece...

Notes after a reboot.
Network connection needs initialising again. This is not uncommon so no biggee for me.

You don't get auto connect? Is it ethernet or wireless?
..maybe try Frisbee, see if thats better.. ???

Quote:
VLC-GTK won't stop playing a track, even after exit.
Retrovol wouldn't load at first until I changed the permissions.

VLC-GTK has a stop playback button, which usually works fine.. I am planning update VLC-GTK, to better support audio though..

EDIT: I forgot to update something in VLC-GTK in the alpha,
you're right, but I got it fixed now

Changed Retrovols permissions? Was it non-exec? Can't have been..
Can you expand?
Did you try ALSA mixer or the ALSA config thing?

Quote:
It keeps defaulting to 'mute' though. Have to open up the full window and check the PCM box as well as Main, or no sound. This is not retained after a reboot.

PCM is indeed always required, as well as master... Not sure why it wouldn't stick..

Can you give the sound card you're using, clearly puppy 4 dont like it,
but we might be able to do something there..

Quote:
pmnet - I've tried this before on pupngo and 412. Does it actually do anything? Sits in the tray from first boot regardless of whether there's a connection and doesn't even give me a cursory blink. I want my money back!!

Hmm... Yes, it would be there regardless of connection or not, but works fine for me, blinks at me and everythin!

But yes, I am planning to replace the tray tools pmnet and pmfree anyway, with either the latest work from goingnuts, or some other light lil thing.. freememapplet is a bit heavy IMHO..


BIG thanks for testing, all info helps me get where I wanna go

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:45    Post subject:  

I'm going to start again with pfix=ram at some point to make sure I know what steps I'm taking.
Briefly though, the stop button in VLC-GTK didn't work, and music continued even after exiting (looking in htop, there were multiple instances of vlc-gtk, 5 I think, is this expected? ).
Using a wireless connection (see my first post). I can connect fine using the 'standard' network wizard, but have to load the profile again each boot. Frisbee wouldn't connect to my network for some reason, or Pwireless2, but I need to try from scratch to make sure.
Anyway, this is a vey promising piece of work, and I'm glad to be of help. Using a decent font really makes a difference to the look and feel.
Oh - just remembered. Refreshing the desktop always takes 30 seconds, regardless of if any apps are running or not. Never had that happen before.
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:56    Post subject:  

speaking of vlcgtk, the GUI used to control it could be adapted for mupdf (a much lighter weight pdf viewer)
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2011, 03:33    Post subject:  

technosaurus wrote:
speaking of vlcgtk, the GUI used to control it could be adapted for mupdf (a much lighter weight pdf viewer)

Good shout, but I was thinking the same for Zathura, actually Wink

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