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PostPosted: Sat 23 Jul 2011, 10:45    Post_subject:  

Hi Aitch

Do you mean put Official in the Derivative of column if its an official version?

Also I wonder if you can help me on which versions are official?

Puppy 525, 511, 431 - are official but what about
4.3.2, 4.4, 2.14R, 2.14X, Wary and Quirky ?

I think what is important to users is long term support and a wide user base with knowledge of version. For example Puppeee has good support and user base but it isn't official as far as I'm aware.

Please update the wiki directly if you see a mistake or improvement, or if unsure comment on the page saying what you'd like to see.

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 08:44    Post_subject: here's my wary 5.1.1 build
Sub_title: not really named... less Wary5x.
 

in short... wary 5.1.1 retro with 217/431 base.

nothing grand less it runs like old 2.17.1... down to system requirements and memory footprint... usage... yet it's without doubt wary 5.1.1.

my builds closely mimic Barry's... atleast as much as possible regarding packages.../etc/...blah... so not a great need for heavy detail... meaning it's simply a more refined version of Barry's... from which he posts details well.

well... i guess my best attempt asto detail would simply be...

...an hybrid of original 2.17.1 crossed with Barry's current wary 5.1.1... with abit of packaging... blah from Barry's original 4.31... less it itself runs like 2.17.1... completely... including system requirements.

...up at puppy2.org/coopsurv
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 09:35    Post_subject:  

Hi Coopsurv

Your Puplet looks good, is it call Wary 5.11 Retro?

If you can provide details in the following format I will add it to the
wiki Puppy Version List

same goes for anyone else's Puplet

Name
Derivative of
Kernel
Size
Window Manager

Description (short, you can make a page on the wiki for a long description)
Link

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 11:59    Post_subject:  

Jon

Yes, that was the intention about Official, , although I don't know the answer....part of the reason for my thread [Barry K decides this AFAIK]

I concur with puppyluvr, add details about whether maintained as per my list.

Active, Superseded and Unmaintained as you have it seems to do the job, though - great job. hope the details keep coming in

Maybe, as has been used elsewhere, list early/pre214 [as only surviving/maintained] as Vintage?

To me, it makes little difference if this important info is available/coordinated in the forum, in PLUG, or in the Wiki....as long as it is available

thanks Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 12:58    Post_subject:  

Does Vintage mean old version of OS or OS for old hardware?
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 15:19    Post_subject:  

Yes - Vintage = old [Official] Puppy OS as used here by CatDude

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65544&start=15

[This thread has a lot of useful info about Puppy history/timeline etc though some links are already dead, but the links for the ISOs are good]

Note: I have seen pages which attribute use of 'Puppies' to ttuuxxx's firefox added puppy versions - there doesn't seem to be a written rule.....

NB: Readers, these are NOT all Derivatives!

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 16:10    Post_subject:  

How do we define Official?

I define it as anything Barry provides us. This would include all the Puppies, .sfs files, source code, .pet files which he puts on servers, such as ibiblio

Anything else, is I guess: user provided? member provided? what?

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 16:17    Post_subject:  

Here are some Barry has hosted at ibiblio.org, I'll post more of them later.

puppy-2.16.1-seamonkey-fulldrivers.iso
puppy-2.17.1-nolzma-seamonkey-fulldrivers.iso
puppy-215CE-Final.iso
puppy-3.01-seamonkey.iso
puppy-3.01retro-k2.6.18.1-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.00-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.1-k2.6.25.16-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.1.1-k2.6.25.16-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.1.1retro-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.1.2-k2.6.25.16-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.1.2retro-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.1retro-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.2-k2.6.25.16-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.2.1-k2.6.25.16-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.2.1retro-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.2retro-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 16:23    Post_subject:  

More of Barry's work on ibiblio

Puppeee-1.0-atom.iso
Puppeee-1.0-celeron.iso
gecko-edubook-laptop v4.3
quirky-1.0
quirky-1.1
quirky-1.2
quirky-1.3
quirky-1.4
quirky-1.4.2
wary-5.0
wary-5.1
wary-5.1.1
wary-5.1.2

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 17:03    Post_subject:  

Here is the list for the Macpup project. The specifics are in the threads.

These two are not available or supported anymore:

Macpup 2.17
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=393526455&t=27209
Macpup Foxy 1.0
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=393526455&t=33374

These are still available from our site and we still support them here and on our forum.

Macpup Dingo
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=393526455&t=30252
Macpup Foxy 1.5
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=393526455&t=35302
Macpup 411 & 411F
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=393526455&t=35475
Macpup 412 & 412F
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=393526455&t=37342
Macpup Foxy 2.0
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=393526455&t=38080
Macpup E17
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=393526455&t=38684
Macpup Foxy E17
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=393526455&t=39410
Macpup Opera & Macpup Opera 061
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=921198274&t=42984
Macpup Opera 2.0
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=921198274&t=54755
Macpup Foxy 3.0
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=921198274&t=49526
Macpup 511
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=921198274&t=62013
Macpup 520
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=921198274&t=66028
Macpup 525
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=921198274&t=68761
Macpup 528
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=68761&start=192
Macpup 529
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80411

Both Macpup 529 is still in active development.

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 06:10    Post_subject:  

What i'm interested in adding is versions in active development or version in wide spread usage. People can add the history if they want.

I've added MacPup to the Puppy Version List on the wiki

and made a MacPup index page.

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 08:01    Post_subject: format...
Sub_title: how... less post???
 

darkcity wrote:
Hi Coopsurv

Your Puplet looks good, is it call Wary 5.11 Retro?

If you can provide details in the following format I will add it to the
wiki Puppy Version List

same goes for anyone else's Puplet

Name
Derivative of
Kernel
Size
Window Manager

Description (short, you can make a page on the wiki for a long description)
Link


Wary5x
Barry's official 4.31
wary 5.1.1
107mb
2.6.30.5
jwm
wary 5.1.1 retro with 217/431 base.
puppy2.org/coopsurv

I'll contact Raffy regarding wika... being he granted my server space.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 09:29    Post_subject:    

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 14:25    Post_subject:  

Jon

Do you think we should be asking people for issue date as month/year, also?

It might help sorting by date, at some later stage, and give a useful indicator of suitability to some hardware, if nothing else?

runtt21, coopsurv and Bruce - thanks

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jul 2011, 11:29    Post_subject:  

I thinks its useful info, but I didn't want to include too many columns

There is a page for release date info at:-
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyTimeLine

Not many derivatives in there yet.

The description can include info if its suitable for particular hardware.

Also, each derivative can have a wiki page give full details.

A template for versios would be good, featuring a table with all 'vital statistics'

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