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Lucid Puppy 5.2.7 RC2
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Béèm


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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 03:19    Post_subject:  
bigpup wrote:
Please do not misunderstand.
All of this discussion about xerrs.log is good and looks like something that should be looked at more often in development of programs. Sure is identifying maybe some sloppy coding.
When compiling programs, for Puppy Linux, there is an unwritten rule. If it is not needed leave it out of the compilation. This may be shinning a light on what that will cause to happen.
Sure seems to be a good place to look for clues if a program is not working.

My question or observation. Do these messages indicate something that prevents the program from performing it's designed task?
Like Gnome Mplayer?
It seems to be generating a message that it is trying to load a file that is not there. OK good to know, but what harm is it causing? Does it keep Gnome Mplayer from working?
Do you replace Gnome Mplayer?
Is there any program code that has 100% no bugs?

The point I am trying to make is fix what really matters, not just to eliminate a message in xerrs.log.
When a nividia lib is called by some code, while not having a nvidia graphics card but a radeon one, indeed there is some 'strange' coding done.
I have this when I start SeaMonkey.
Does it harm?
I don't know, didn't happen before, but I feel my SeaMonkey (2.0.14) isn't so snappy anymore.
So there definitely is some effect maybe.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 04:22    Post_subject:  
Playdayz... please add this tiny little file. It is 'dillorc' and belongs in /root/.dillo/
The .pet will install it. It is just the configuration file for Dillo with loads of examples showing how to customise Dillo to make it way more useful. Most of the time, it is only a question of removing the # at the beginning of the comment line. Allows setting of fonts, homepage, startup page, startup geometry, toolbar configuration, on and on.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 04:39    Post_subject:  
Here is a post about the battery indicator in the tray not working.
This post talks about the battery level icons missing that show charge changes.

Anybody having battery charge indication problems?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=547202#547202
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 04:58    Post_subject:  
Yes, I had. The BIOS of my Acer 5820TG didnt handle acpi functions at all. Battery status, sleep function were disabled. The second BIOS update fixed the problem. It could be that some Compag BIOSes does not fully support all the acpi functions. Or it could be that just 2.6.33.2 kernel is the reason.
It would be good to get feedback does the battery status work with another kernel version Puppy with those people.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 06:31    Post_subject:  
Speaking of battery status and cpu temperature and getting the results in to the desktop. Here is mine transparent conky. It shows battery status and cpu temperature among other things. It is fixed to /usr/share/backgrounds/default.jpg. So transparency uses that default.jpg for transparency.

/etc/conky has conky.white and conky.black for different colors. Default conky.conf uses white colors.

You need to edit /etc/conky/conky.conf rows:
Quote:
${color white}CPU1: ${cpu cpu1}% ${alignr}${cpubar cpu1 8,60}
${color white}CPU2: ${cpu cpu2}% ${alignr}${cpubar cpu2 8,60}
${color white}CPU3: ${cpu cpu3}% ${alignr}${cpubar cpu3 8,60}
${color white}CPU4: ${cpu cpu4}% ${alignr}${cpubar cpu4 8,60}

to match your cpu count. Add or more probably remove excessive rows, otherwise conky wont start.

Pet adds /root/Startup/conky script which launches the conky.
If you rename conky.black as conky.conf, you need to kill conky first. Killall -9 conky in console do that. Then you can launch conky again by clicking conky script in Startup folder.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 07:44    Post_subject:  
I have still problems with touchpad oversensitivity. I switched synclient and syndaemon to oneiric ones. They were good with 2.6.39.3 kernel which didnt work properly with lucid synclient.
I also use syndaemon to disable touchpad when writing.
I made installable script for it.

It gives syndaemon instructions to disable touchpad when writing and enable touchpad back quickly after writing is stopped.

These steps helped to get my touchpad working correctly.

Here is the pet for disabling touchpad when writing. Restarting X is needed before syndaemon instructions works or clicking the installed script in /root/Startup.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 08:46    Post_subject:  
Here are a few fun splash wallpapers for lucid puppy.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 12:06    Post_subject:  
Quote:
Please do not misunderstand.
All of this discussion about xerrs.log is good and looks like something that should be looked at more often in development of programs. Sure is identifying maybe some sloppy coding.
When compiling programs, for Puppy Linux, there is an unwritten rule. If it is not needed leave it out of the compilation. This may be shinning a light on what that will cause to happen.
Sure seems to be a good place to look for clues if a program is not working.

My question or observation. Do these messages indicate something that prevents the program from performing it's designed task?
Like Gnome Mplayer?
It seems to be generating a message that it is trying to load a file that is not there. OK good to know, but what harm is it causing? Does it keep Gnome Mplayer from working?
Do you replace Gnome Mplayer?

Well said Bigpup, imho. If a program goes crazy and fills up xerrs.log to MB's that is a problem that has to be fixed (or avoided). Otherwise xerrs.log is an indication of possible problems with a program, but as you say--a couple of error messages is not indicative of a huge problem. It's a good tool and indicator. Many of those messages are for the benefit of the program's authors.

Has anyone installed gnome-mplayer-1.0.3 from the pet I posted and still had the vdpau message in xerrs.log? It certainly fixed it for me.

Zigbert has fixed the bug Snail found in Pfind.

I see several pages for me to read and possibly make some changes. Then I will build the RC, possibly late today or tomorrow.

Cheers.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 12:09    Post_subject:  
futwerk, pupjl26,06sp.jpg is a hoot. I love it. Are those little earrings on Puppy? In it goes if I can find it on puppyb0x. There is already another of yours in. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 12:15    Post_subject:  
Concerning problems with programs that are not built-in the lucid iso. We have enough to do to check all built-in programs--we can't debug all add-ons. Anyway, the court of last resort is to remove offending programs from the puppy-lucid repo of PPM.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 12:20    Post_subject:  
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Got it rerwin. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 12:36    Post_subject:  
playdayz wrote:


Has anyone installed gnome-mplayer-1.0.3 from the pet I posted and still had the vdpau message in xerrs.log? It certainly fixed it for me.


Yes; I posted above. This can be an intermittent problem where lots of fixes seemed to work...and then it pops up again. It varies from system to system (what drivers are loaded, etc., etc).

BTW/ I just noticed the VDPAU error also occurs independently of loading any video player.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 13:40    Post_subject:  
As I posted earlier, I was getting the error just by using SeaMonkey.... no multimedia apps involved.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 13:44    Post_subject:  
James C wrote:
As I posted earlier, I was getting the error just by using SeaMonkey.... no multimedia apps involved.
Same for me. SeaMonkey 2.0.14
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 14:00    Post_subject:  
Here is a good place to look, for needed drivers, if you think that could be the problem getting internet connections with different devices.

Extras for Puppy 5.1 with 2.6.33.2 kernel
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59000
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