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Yogi

Joined: 19 Aug 2005
Posts: 177
PostPosted: Mon 16 May 2011, 05:50    Post subject: Xvesa and mouse not compatible.
Subject description: Mouse won't scroll right.		  
sc0ttman:

I downloaded your Puplite 5.0 with the intention of loading it on an old
Compaq Ipaq 500 mhz Celeron pc. With the advertised "low resources"
usage of your Puppy it seemed like the one to use. Anyway, I'm "testing"
it now on my much newer pc and something I've come across is this:
I like to use Xvesa for my video setup (I always have) but the mouse doesn't scroll right. For one thing it scrolls backwards (i.e. up = down and
vice versa) and dragging the screen scroll bars is very slooww. The keyboard
up and down arrows are also sluggish. The screen looks like it's in slow motion. Very strange.

I've used and tried out lots of other Pups (on same pc) and never had this
problem with Xvesa. Xorg works fine. Since you said you wanted feedback
I thought I'd let you know.
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sc0ttman


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Location: UK
PostPosted: Mon 16 May 2011, 06:07    Post subject: Re: Xvesa and mouse not compatible.
Subject description: Mouse won't scroll right.		  
Yogi wrote:
sc0ttman:

I downloaded your Puplite 5.0 with the intention of loading it on an old
Compaq Ipaq 500 mhz Celeron pc. With the advertised "low resources"
usage of your Puppy it seemed like the one to use. Anyway, I'm "testing"
it now on my much newer pc and something I've come across is this:
I like to use Xvesa for my video setup (I always have) but the mouse doesn't scroll right. For one thing it scrolls backwards (i.e. up = down and
vice versa) and dragging the screen scroll bars is very slooww. The keyboard
up and down arrows are also sluggish. The screen looks like it's in slow motion. Very strange.

I've used and tried out lots of other Pups (on same pc) and never had this
problem with Xvesa. Xorg works fine. Since you said you wanted feedback
I thought I'd let you know.

Thanks for testing Yogi.. Not good, but I think we have a fix...

It appears the tiny, static Xvesa which technosaurus built (which is smaller and does use less resources than the Xvesa it replaced) has issues for some users.

You are not the first to report this problem. I personally have used this Xvesa across a range of systems, and find it to work perfect - mouse wheel scrolling included.

For now, could you please download and install the standard Puppy 4 Xvesa, and let me know if it is any different? I think it should be the fix we are looking for.

Get the standard Xvesa here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-4/xorg_xvesa-7.3-1.pet

Also, how does it run when using Xorg? Sluggish or not so much?

And can you tell the the graphics driver you are using, if possible?
Hard Info might list it, or try 'lsmod' in the terminal, or the 'Device' section, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf

....

If anyone else reading this has similar problems, I suggest trying Xorg, or installing the Xvesa above - and let me know how it goes please!
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Yogi

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PostPosted: Tue 17 May 2011, 03:58    Post subject:  
scOttman wrote:

Also, how does it run when using Xorg? Sluggish or not so much?
And can you tell the the graphics driver you are using, if possible?
Hard Info might list it, or try 'lsmod' in the terminal, or
the'Device' section, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

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answer:

Xorg runs fine. I installed the Xorg-Xvesa pet and it did correct the mouse
backwards scrolling issue. But scrolling with the mouse or up-down arrows
is still sluggish, albeit a liitle bit improved.
Here is the graphics driver info:

Identifier "Card0"
Driver "nv" #card0driver
VendorName "nVidia Corporation"
BoardName "NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
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sc0ttman


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Location: UK
PostPosted: Tue 17 May 2011, 07:36    Post subject:  
Yogi wrote:
But scrolling with the mouse or up-down arrows
is still sluggish, albeit a liitle bit improved.
Here is the graphics driver info:

Identifier "Card0"
Driver "nv" #card0driver
VendorName "nVidia Corporation"
BoardName "NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"

Thanks very much for your info, much appreciated... Odd as I have a similar gfx card, uses the same driver...

When you say scrolling issues, are you talking about any program in particular, such as firefox? which is sometimes known to have this problem with certain packages... or is it including ROX and all other programs?
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Yogi

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PostPosted: Tue 17 May 2011, 13:56    Post subject:  
scOttman wrote:

When you say scrolling issues, are you talking about any
program in particular, such as firefox? which is sometimes
known to have this problem with certain packages... or is
it including ROX and all other programs?

answer:

I've tried Opera, Firefox, Firedog, Firepup and SeaMonkey.
Everyone is affected as well as ROX and Geany.
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nooby

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PostPosted: Tue 17 May 2011, 15:16    Post subject:  
But have you tested to change the sensitivity then? It did help when I had similar problem.
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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Tue 24 May 2011, 09:07    Post subject: deadbeef  
I got a working deadbeef PET for Puplite, that is also very small...
It supports mp3, and also possibly wav, ogg, others...

It is around 200kb, and seems to work really nicely... It is not the latest, but I have yet to find anything that didn't work, or anything missing that I wanted Smile It should work in all pups.
deadbeef-0.4.1-i486.pet
Description 
pet

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Filename  deadbeef-0.4.1-i486.pet 
Filesize  205 KB 
Downloaded  264 Time(s) 

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sc0ttman


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Location: UK
PostPosted: Tue 19 Jul 2011, 12:40    Post subject: Puplite 6 Alpha 7.. now uploaded
Subject description: Puplite6 alpha7.. ready to test		  
Puplite6 alpha7.. ready to test

Info and download: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=545462#545462
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Frank Cox

Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Posts: 381
PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul 2011, 14:35    Post subject: Puplite _Keyboard -No responser  
Hi Scotman:

I am having a weird problem with puplite 5.
I found a modem it recognized but it will not allow me to type in my username-isp etc.
Keyboard works fine everywhere else.
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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul 2011, 16:14    Post subject: Re: Puplite _Keyboard -No responser  
Frank Cox wrote:
Hi Scotman:

I am having a weird problem with puplite 5.
I found a modem it recognized but it will not allow me to type in my username-isp etc.
Keyboard works fine everywhere else.

Using which tool? That is an odd one..
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oligin10

Joined: 17 Jul 2010
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Location: Buckeye State, USA
PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul 2011, 20:09    Post subject: possible temp solution  
Hi, you may want to try this, as a temporary fix. Try to type it in another window, copy and paste into the box. I had to do this on one linux version of opera browser, to transfer all my settings into the new browser. Thanks, Rob
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Frank Cox

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 07:25    Post subject: Re: possible temp solution  
oligin10 wrote:
Hi, you may want to try this, as a temporary fix. Try to type it in another window, copy and paste into the box. I had to do this on one linux version of opera browser, to transfer all my settings into the new browser. Thanks, Rob


Thanks

What I did was modify wdial.confg and that seemed to work. This is a customers machine so I need to figure out how to make it work normally if possible
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 08:09    Post subject: Re: possible temp solution  
Frank Cox wrote:
oligin10 wrote:
Hi, you may want to try this, as a temporary fix. Try to type it in another window, copy and paste into the box. I had to do this on one linux version of opera browser, to transfer all my settings into the new browser. Thanks, Rob


Thanks

What I did was modify wdial.confg and that seemed to work. This is a customers machine so I need to figure out how to make it work normally if possible

I'll be happy to help, but not sure which GUI reads wdial.conf..
Can you tell me the script which loads the GUI? I will get in there and hack at it..
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Frank Cox

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Aug 2011, 00:03    Post subject: Re: possible temp solution  
sc0ttman wrote:
Frank Cox wrote:
oligin10 wrote:
Hi, you may want to try this, as a temporary fix. Try to type it in another window, copy and paste into the box. I had to do this on one linux version of opera browser, to transfer all my settings into the new browser. Thanks, Rob


Thanks

What I did was modify wdial.confg and that seemed to work. This is a customers machine so I need to figure out how to make it work normally if possible

I'll be happy to help, but not sure which GUI reads wdial.conf..
Can you tell me the script which loads the GUI? I will get in there and hack at it..


I just click on it and it opens in whatever text editor -Geany etc.
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loubapache


Joined: 14 Sep 2011
Posts: 54
Location: Western Michigan
PostPosted: Mon 05 Dec 2011, 13:33    Post subject:  
First time tried puplite 5 and it is much faster than the later puppies on a PIII 933 Mhz 512MB ram machines.

The first app I installed was Opera 11 but it crashed on several occasions so I installed Firefox 3.6 and that works fine.

Thunar, LibreOffice, Gimp, Wbar. etc all installed fine and work well.

I did enable 5 compatibility.

Now I tried several ways to install Chrome (my favorite browser) but with no success. There are some missing libs. There are couple pets floating around to help install Chrome in Puppy 4.x and earlier 5.x and I tried them as well. Still there are missing libs.

Anyway to get later version of Chrome (v13-15) to work?

Thanks,
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