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#41 Post by Iguleder »

I want to stick with the 2.6.39 kernel for a long time (7 versions passed since 2.6.32.x, it's time to upgrade), so once it stabilizes I want to get things like NVIDIA, ndiswrapper and Sysprof built automatically too.

This driver could be a nice addition, too. It's still too early to talk about extra drivers when we still don't have a stable kernel package.
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#42 Post by pemasu »

Nvidia compiles with 2.6.39 kernel fine. Latest Ati Catalyst not, because kernel has dropped big kernel lock totally out and and Ati Catalyst installer cries after it. It is possible to hack the latest source and get it compiling but I think the compiled whole framework is not fully working. I got fglrx to be loaded and I could use it but glxgears seqfaults. I posted some steps in Polarpup thread about getting Ati Catalyst to compile.
Next Ati Catalyst is probably fixed, lets see...

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#43 Post by pemasu »

Barrys 2.6.39 kernel source has usb and hid drivers compiled in, not as modules for boot time usb media detection to be correct. Also his source has couple of other sections included as module which enables keucr module to be visible and possible to include. So his DOTconfig has things as right as I can understand. With 2.6.39 kernel hw monitoring has changed. Powerapplet_tray does not work. Vattery, Gatotray, mine conky, xsensors with lmsensors works, CpuTemp pet works.

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#44 Post by Iguleder »

It's OK, we've got E17's stuff that should work.

The kernel build is done, I'm generating the package now. Then I'm gonna build the ultimate alpha 2, with office stuff, multimedia and the cuttin' edge kernel :D

EDIT: uploading alpha 2. Really small and exceptionally fast; consumes ~55 MB of RAM with E17. :D
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#45 Post by pemasu »

To get flash working.
Packages libnspr4-0d and libnss3-1d are needed. Install them from the squeeze main repo.and there you go.

Damn, this 2.6.32 kernel has same touchpad oversensitiity bug as 2.6.33 kernel. Newer kernel than 2.6.33 is really needed for my laptop. It is really difficult to write when every third stroke empties or misplaces the written rows. I use ctrl + z more than any other key combination to revert misplaced or disappeared rows.
u go.
r displaced rows.
Above is an example what was left when I wrote again my above text without fixing anything. Not much left from the text.
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#46 Post by Iguleder »

The ISO is up! Posting this from it, seems good. Abiword and Gnumeric work and I don't see the tearing bug we had in Lucid.

And thanks, pemasu, I guess I'll add those libraries and Flash to the next build. It's smaller than 100 MB, we have 26 MB to waste ... :lol:
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#47 Post by pemasu »

Iguleder. Diff command not found in your first alpha.
/sbin/pup_event_frontend_d: line 792: diff: not found
The xerrs.log accumulates of that error.

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#48 Post by Iguleder »

Alpha 2 has diff in the devx ... isn't that normal? Maybe it's responsible for the desktop icons problem.
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#49 Post by pemasu »

Iguleder. It might be good idea, to take one day break before uploading next version, so that people have time to hunt possible missing stuff and trace the needed packages.
Lol. You have so great energetic speed in your creations that ordinary people dont keep up with you.

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#50 Post by pemasu »

Iguleder. DIff and several other diff related binaries are found in base sfs.
I took snapshot of my Midnight Sun Pup base sfs findings.
I think you need to include diff to the base sfs.

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#51 Post by ttuuxxx »

Iguleder wrote:Good news, I added Debian's Abiword and Gnumeric. They're more stable than the latest and some people (DaveS :lol:) use them for mission-critical stuff, so we're better stick with Debian's packages.
So the bloat starts, really you don't need debian packages for software just libs only, Plus abiword can be built without Goffice and so you can still ditch Gnumeric and just make a extra pet for it, I was impressed with your initial release but already your running for the easy way out, is the devx faulty or are you just being lazy? Please keep this release as small as possible and I'll support it but in your past releases you went the easy way and I walked. As for all woof variety's go Dpup has been the best from the very first one tronkle produced a few years ago. The speed that firefox works is very good, but bloat is always a very large turn-off, abiword and some sort of all-in-one media player is really what most users need. Debian packages are ok at a least but puppy tested ones are 10-1 better. As long as the lib's are the same version numbers than I don see any reason to add any new debian ones unless you can't compile them.
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#52 Post by Iguleder »

Don't worry, ttuuxxx.

I want to experiment with Abiword and Gnumeric, especially the former, which has many dependencies.

As I said, I won't be home for a few days, so I won't be able to work on it, so I want to build both next week, towards weekend.
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#53 Post by pemasu »

http://iguleder.info/puppy/dpup/squeeze-4.9.9.1-alpha2/

The download links in the first page does not work. Above link works.
Keeping bloat out. I would start with leaving Abiword and Gnumeric out. And offering them as pet and sfs and also latest Libre Office as pet and sfs.

With smallest ttuuxxx compile abiworgd, goffice and gnumeric takes as decompressed 27 Mb. I think that is for many bloat.

It isnt big thing to install them if you need them. And if you dont and want to use Libre Office or Softmaker 2008 or 2010 you are ready to go without almost working Abiword and better working Gnumeric.

Well....probably war starts now and I emphatize that above is my HO. Nothing else. Every distro builder do his own decisions and that is the priviledge when you are the one who do the hard work.

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#54 Post by Iguleder »

I'm not going to participate in any flame war.

Anyway, the next release will take time, I'm gonna give alpha 2 a long life of a week or two.

I need to rebuild the kernel, Abiword, Gnumeric and E17. So far, the next build has Flash (and the Mozilla libraries required for it) and Diffutils in the main SFS.

The first thing I want to deal with is the kernel, I want it to be good like 2.6.32.42.
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#55 Post by ttuuxxx »

pemasu wrote:
With smallest ttuuxxx compile abiworgd, goffice and gnumeric takes as decompressed 27 Mb. I think that is for many bloat.
I did say make a gnumeric pet which would included Goffice, only abiword would be needed to be added, and the last Abiword I made was for 2.14X and it was 4.8MB expanded respectfully. That's not really bloat, its more like oh yeah baby. :)
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#56 Post by Iguleder »

I added liblzo for the squashfs_tools 4.2 I just built. I decided to add lzop too. I'm also rebuilding the kernel at the moment, with some improvements that should make Aufs much faster.

I started a clean build in a directory called "beta" and I want it to be beta quality. Once the kernel is ready, I'll rebuild E17 so I have a solid base to work on.

I also want to experiment with LZO compression, which should make the main SFS much bigger (+20-30 MB), but way faster. Shell scripts simply fly with LZO, because the main SFS decompresses transparently and you get near-native speed.

EDIT: the new kernel is ready, here.
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#57 Post by ttuuxxx »

Iguleder wrote:I added liblzo for the squashfs_tools 4.2 I just built. I decided to add lzop too. I'm also rebuilding the kernel at the moment, with some improvements that should make Aufs much faster.

I started a clean build in a directory called "beta" and I want it to be beta quality. Once the kernel is ready, I'll rebuild E17 so I have a solid base to work on.

I also want to experiment with LZO compression, which should make the main SFS much bigger (+20-30 MB), but way faster. Shell scripts simply fly with LZO, because the main SFS decompresses transparently and you get near-native speed.

EDIT: the new kernel is ready, here.
LZO decompresses nicely with file-roller :) plus other formats that xarchiver doesn't, That's why I added both to 2.14X, both have there ups and downs, but combined you can open just about anything.
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Iguleder wrote:Pemasu, this isn't rxvt :lol:

stu90, yes, all my kernel packages go here :)

I want to build 2.6.39.x, by the way - wireless problems should be gone with 2.6.38+.
Thanks Iguleder - noticed your woof / reborn file in first post as well, thats tomorrow taken care off. :D

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#59 Post by Iguleder »

Here's the development one. A 'lil bit better, has some fixes.

It also contains two patches, one to choose the compression (gzip, LZO or XZ) in 3builddistro and another one with fixes required for E17.
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#60 Post by pemasu »

Testing now the uploaded 2.6.39 kernel version distro. I unsquashed the main sfs and added those missing stuff mentioned in this thread. I unsquashed it in Lucid 266 devel version, It needed different squashsfstool to succeed.
Diffutils addition didnt fix the drive icons problem after mounting. Still the same bug.
But...I can write now straight. Great !!!
You got icons to the menu. Another great !!!
My wired atheros nic is now recognized. Third great !!!

Oops. I seem to have forgotten to add ntfs prog, I can open ntfs read-only only.

Overall, getting better.

EDIT. ntfs-3g package fixed the read-write to ntfs partition.

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