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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 16:20    Post subject:  
Very well done 0.8.1 should now be release candidate.

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Bert


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PostPosted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 16:35    Post subject:  
Iguleder and L18L, very nice utility Cool

Attached is the Dutch (nl) localization.

Thanks guys!
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Aug 2011, 11:21    Post subject: ymount
Subject description: Dutch		  
Bert wrote:
Iguleder and L18L, very nice utility Cool

Attached is the Dutch (nl) localization.

Thanks guys!

Thank you very much, Bert Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Aug 2011, 14:16    Post subject:  
Hi L18L,

1. Looks like you have a special developers version, with language change enabled? Wink

2. I noticed the "Quit" button is not translated.
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L18L

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Aug 2011, 15:34    Post subject: ymount
Subject description: internationalization		  
Hi Bert,
you wrote:
1. Looks like you have a special developers version, with language change enabled?

No special version, it is a preview on next feature "Language switcher".
0.8.1 means: same as before
ml multi language
English Onlys might stay with version 0.8.1 as Jim1911 suggested. Smile

Or anyone will complain about bad English
(I hope so, don't be shy.
It is important to correct English text as early as possible
because English texts are keywords in translation)


Bert wrote:
2. I noticed the "Quit" button is not translated.
This translation is done (or NOT in your case) by gtk20.mo
If you have /usr/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20.mo then your quit button will display verlaten

Another advantage of gettext: No need to translate gtk buttons
So Help is Dutch Exclamation

I have noticed something in your translation that will be of general interest

_Unmount and _Mount

The underscores are in ymount.po

In the GUI they are underlines
and enable jumps to them by keyboard strokes
(not everybody is always using a mouse [hello AJ Smile ])

So the translator has to take care of this
Use the underscore clearly and meaningful

In the example
U an M
are meaningful
and different from each other and from other shortcuts.

So I suggest for Dutch to make it:
A_fkoppelen and Aa_nkoppelen

I have already changed this in my version which will be uploaded soon.

Any other suggestions will be always welcomed.

Thanks again for your contribution, may others follow Smile

My regards
L

PS
thinking about version numbering: this preview should better become simply 0.9 ?
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Aug 2011, 08:10    Post subject:  
Thanks L18L,

For some reason the gtk20.mo in my /usr/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES is not functioning. It is the one that comes with the lupq-langpack. It's not working in Lucid 526rc, but I'm quite certain it has never worked, whatever Puppy I installed the langpack to.

Yes "Help" is Dutch Smile It's like the verb "hilfe- (von helfen)" in German ( But "Hulp" would be better...noun like "Aushilfe, Beistand" in German)

Yes, I understood the reason for the underscores, but not being a keyboard warrior myself, didn't realize I was offering a choice between apples and apples Laughing
Your "A_fkoppelen and Aa_nkoppelen " solution is probably the best given these strange dutch words..

Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Aug 2011, 10:11    Post subject: Internationalization
Subject description: nl gtk20		  
Bert wrote:
...
For some reason the gtk20.mo in my /usr/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES is not functioning. ...


Hi Bert,
I have downloaded Dutch gtk20.mo from *b*nt* and tested several versions. And looked inside (msgunfmt): Help is Hulp and Quit is Verlaten.

Yad is internationalized but just to German Swedish and Ukrainian.
Because it is working for me in German I have come to the conclusion now this might be a bug in yad.

I will have to report it there.... Cool
Edited: done...

Another edit: Problem solved Cool

Thank you
L
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PostPosted: Wed 10 Aug 2011, 14:20    Post subject: ymount
Subject description: hopefully last version before 1.0		  
Here is version 0.9

bugfixes
comeback of preferences
language switcher

Requires rox and yad

yad should run on all recent puppies (5xxx)
seaside wrote:
Here's a link for yad compiled for pup431
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=38895
in case anyone would like it.

Cheers,
s

Thanks seaside Smile


Edited 2011-09-11
Link to latest version provided always here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=557739
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 06:38    Post subject:  
Thanks for the 0.9 update L18L Smile
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rodin.s

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:59    Post subject: Russian l10n  
I've translated pot-file into Russian. But is there a possibility to make yad buttons localized?
And the language name is Русский not Русские as it says in language select.
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 16:04    Post subject:  
Wow, Pmount definitely should be kicked out in favor of Ymount Very Happy

Great work, L18L! I think it could be nice if I had a quick solution for partition mounting under Window Maker ... I'm seriously considering to learn how to write dockapps and make some dockapp that works with Ymount Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 16:13    Post subject:  
Thanks for your translation rodin s.!

I believe L18L is actively looking into the problem.
It could even be not yad related... (?)

One question, does the Ukrainian locale work as it should?

Yes, L18L likes to add an "e" to the language name Wink
(in my Dutch case "Nederlands" becomes "Nederlandse" ...)

People like you and L18L give me the energy needed to keep believing one day Puppy will be globally understood. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 16:27    Post subject:  
Iguleder wrote:
Wow, Pmount definitely should be kicked out in favor of Ymount Very Happy

Great work, L18L! I think it could be nice if I had a quick solution for partition mounting under Window Maker ... I'm seriously considering to learn how to write dockapps and make some dockapp that works with Ymount Smile


It's all your fault Igu, you started it Laughing L18L just made it extremely useful, usable and fool proof. And I'm 100% sure about the latter Wink
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 16:50    Post subject: Ukrainian yad buttons  
Ukrainian is the same. No localization.
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 17:12    Post subject: Re: Ukrainian yad buttons  
rodin.s wrote:
Ukrainian is the same. No localization.

Below is a screenshot of Ymount in Dutch.

In the bottom task bar "Language" is translated ( "Taal"), but nothing else.
Is it correct to say L18L's yad translation is working just fine, but not the Gtk buttons?
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