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jim3630


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PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug 2011, 22:11    Post_subject:  

manual frugal install to ext4. used spup 2.6.37.6 broadcom wl.ko pet from this board and required use of built in Frisbee pet to make wifi connection.

installed ff 501.lucid525 pet and it seems very quick and responsive.

-Computer-
Processor : 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6100 @ 2.00GHz
Memory : 2520MB (191MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.52
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 12 Aug 2011 07:29:43 PM PDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel


does seems like alot of memory usage but everything so far works.
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug 2011, 22:36    Post_subject:  

Fluffy anyone? Laughing

There are nvidia drivers in my brainwave repo.. not up to 280 as yet, 275 is there as well as 173 and 96.

http://brainwavedesigncentral.net/micko01/stuff/puppy/spup/pet_packages-spup/

Be warned, only the drivers 2.6.37.6s [NOT s5] are compatible. Use anything else there in this release at your peril! Most likely wont work.

EDIT: ati_fglrx-11.7 is now available too at the above link. Please read this post

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug 2011, 23:36    Post_subject: Three-Headed Dog - kernel 2.6.37.6  

Manual frugal install to acer laptop.
Installed devx + kernel source sfs + ati-driver-installer-11-7-x86.x86_64.run

Fri 12 Aug 2011 Operating System: Three-Headed Dog-529 Linux 2.6.37.6
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS product: PARK 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: vesa
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1600x900 pixels (423x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
OpenGL version string: 4.1.10907 Compatibility Profile Context

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430
Core 0: 2260 1: 2260 2: 2260 3: 2260 MHz

sh-4.1# glxgears
25645 frames in 5.0 seconds
25855 frames in 5.0 seconds
25883 frames in 5.0 seconds

I have to start this laptop with pfix=nox,ram or it will go to the
desktop but not be able to create a save file on rebooting (screen
goes white and locks up laptop), choosing vesa until save file is
created and then installing proprietary driver works.

SNS worked to set up the wireless network.
Sound good.
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James C


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 00:23    Post_subject:  

Manual frugal install.....everything working on initial boot.Installed SeaMonkey 2.2 and the Nvidia driver.Looking good so far.

Fri 12 Aug 2011 Operating System: Three-Headed Dog-529 Linux 2.6.37.6
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
OpenGL version string: 1.5.8 NVIDIA 96.43.19

AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Core 0: 1998 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.


-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (171MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.52
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 12 Aug 2011 11:37:30 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1034776 540228 494548 0 47052
Swap: 1228936 0 1228936
Total: 2263712 540228 1723484
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 01:43    Post_subject:  

wifi disconnecting need to then manually reconnect.
edit: possibly in association with low battery because i flat battery crashed it straight after posting this.

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 03:52    Post_subject:  

playdayz wrote:
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tell us exactly what you want that someone to do with the bug reports and someone might step-up. (not me)

Make and coordinate the necessary fixes and send them to me.

takes a very good skill set to know what needs to be done. perhaps you could delegate them to people who have the require skill after discerning the problem?

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Béèm


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 04:07    Post_subject:  

aarf wrote:
playdayz wrote:
Quote:
tell us exactly what you want that someone to do with the bug reports and someone might step-up. (not me)

Make and coordinate the necessary fixes and send them to me.

takes a very good skill set to know what needs to be done. perhaps you could delegate them to people who have the require skill after discerning the problem?
For me the most efficient way is still a bug reporting/follow-up system like bugzilla.

If a project leader/main developer could work with the people in his team willing to use that system the status of a reported issue can be seen in a wink. Users will not be frustrated anymore to have to say they reported such and such issue already before.

Also for the project leader/main developer work will be easier.
I still don't understand how a person can cope with those long forum threads.

And I know this has been raised before and the general reaction was that anarchy is a better way.

Just my 2 ¢

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nooby

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 04:14    Post_subject:  

Yes I know I should just shut up Smile

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I know this has been raised before and the general reaction was that anarchy is a better way.


My experience is that as long as something feels good and is fun to do then almost any organization or structure does work but the problem starts when it starts to feel tedious and not fun.

Then anarchy maybe works better but the best structure still would be inner motivation based on the whole thing feeling good and fun to do.

Both too much structure and too much anarchy maybe can be too much of a good thing. To each his own.

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 06:25    Post_subject:
Sub_title: ATI fglrx pet works fully on HD5450 card
 

G'day,

Frugal then Full installs of the three headed dog directly from .iso (no CD used - thanks rjbrewer for the how-to-do).

My desktop system has a new ATI radeon HD5450 card which has problems with many Pups' default radeon driver when shutting down (not just this Pup). And that's when the radeon driver would actually run - my monitor is 1600x900 which the default-to-radeon vesa did not offer.

01micko's ATI pet mentioned earlier in this thread fixed the problem plus allowed the ATI Catalyst Control Centre to also run. Other different kernel ATI pets have fixed the shut-down problem in many Pups but not always to also allow the ATI Control Centre to function which now looks to depend on the kernel being right. Pity about the ATI's size.

Everything else in luci-529 has worked well and quickly on my computer.

Thanks to playdayz for the succession of excellent Pups, regardless of their number of heads.

David S.
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01micko


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 06:50    Post_subject:
Sub_title: ATI fglrx pet works fully on HD5450 card
 

davids45 wrote:

01micko's ATI pet mentioned earlier in this thread fixed the problem plus allowed the ATI Catalyst Control Centre to also run. Other different kernel ATI pets have fixed the shut-down problem in many Pups but not always to also allow the ATI Control Centre to function which now looks to depend on the kernel being right. Pity about the ATI's size.


Hi David,

Can you describe in detail your procedure for installing the ati_fglrx pet? It is so I can get a handle on it and improve the pinstall.sh script to make it easy for all. Lobster is having issues in Slacko.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 07:19    Post_subject:  

Quote:
Fluffy anyone?


Laughing we are making the same jokes (I am on the Slacko head)

I am so pleased that everyone is supportive
Maybe Pemasu, BarryK with Upup + Quickpet (hopefully) or our growing kennel of developers will find some fun emergence.

Even though Lucid is the more complete and polished product
woof does move things on . . . (Barry has just released a 13 Aug Woof)

Go Puppy

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 08:10    Post_subject:  

aarf wrote:
wifi disconnecting need to then manually reconnect.
edit: possibly in association with low battery because i flat battery crashed it straight after posting this.

have installed frisbee and it too is going down. difference is it tells you it is down and then auto reconnects when it can.

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 08:21    Post_subject:  

I don't think we are on general bugs now, but on specific bugs.

Let me explain.

It seems now that most software works OTB. (General app bugs)

The issues now are:-
specific hardware,
software interaction
erroneous bugs

Specific hardware: Is say, when video card A works for everyone but video card B does not.
Video card B has issues with the hardware or kernel version.
(Only another person with same card can help really)

Software interaction: When an app works fine but install another app afterwards or before, it then spoils the original app operation.
(Sometimes hard to replicate)

Erroneous bug: Quick bug report, generally withdrawn quickly when a mistake is found by user.

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I spent many an hour trying to chase bugs of the above kinds, only to find when I had an answer, that when I checked forum it was solved.
I now stick to my own apps or those I had a hand in.

It would be impossible for playdayz to be able to handle the bugs himself and he has to wait for an appropriate user to solve it and get back to him. All kudos to him for handling it so well.

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 08:51    Post_subject:  

was thinking that Béèm would be a good bug co-ordinator. even before he posted about bugzilla. has he necessary methodical approach. maybe playdayz likes the idea of a bugzilla for his project where other devs dont for theirs?.
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 10:11    Post_subject:  

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I will need help with the pinstall script, so Lobster, mikesLr, davids45, Billtoo, playdayz.. anyone else with a late model Radeon video card please test and report your experience.

Unfortunately I don't really have a "late-model" radeon card anymore. I have a 3850 and a 4670. I think that it would be the 5000 series and especially the 6000 that might be the problem. If you could send me one, I could test it Wink

I installed the new fglrx pet on the 3850 and everything went well. I installed, then exited to a prompt and ran aticonfig --initial, then xwin to restart X with the driver working.

The only anomaly is that when I exited back to X to check that I had a working console (which I did) there was a message I had never seen before. I seem to get that each time I use xwin now.

Code:
# xwin
# dirname: extra operand '/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers-backup/vesa_drv.so'
# Try 'dirname --help' for more info


Yes, I had Fluffy in mind, but I had forgotten his name.

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