Small Windowmanager Enlightenment DR 16-7

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#101 Post by Lobster »

raymondjackso25 wrote: is there a thread that explain how to install the things like icewm cuz that doesn't work either.
this needs updating
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/WindowManagers
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#102 Post by Rhino »

raymondjackso25 wrote: Can somebody walk me through the installation of enlightenment.
I think Enlightenment may require you to be using Xorg rather than XVESA. You can change that using the Setup X Video Wizard.
Visit the Puppy Linux Video Tutorials @ http://rhinoweb.us

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#103 Post by raymondjackso25 »

heres the thing, ive downloaded a big file from the enlightenment site, and some other things that it says to download with it. I just don't know where to unpack all this stuff, how it works or anything.

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#104 Post by MU »

I made a Dotpup especially for Puppy, please read the first message.
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#105 Post by jctots »

im using enlightenment in puppy2.01... i noticed that the menu or icons on the left is not updated... how can i edit them? thanks...

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#106 Post by MU »

the menu:
To add own entries:
left-click on desktop, Puppy -> E16 -> menueditor.

To update the imported Jwm-menu:
left-click on desktop, Puppy -> E16 -> reload Puppymenu

To edit the icons:
left-click on desktop, Puppy -> E16 -> MU-e16-tools -> edit iconbar.

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#107 Post by jctots »

wow... everything was made so easy... thanks for the work! just have a question... when im trying to maximize a window it will only extend at the bottom of the epplets and not cover the whole screen... how can i fix this? also i cant find how to change the color of the title bars...

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#108 Post by MU »

Middle-click -> Settings -> window-placement-settings -> ignore struts

Alternatively right-click the title-bar -> remember
That will remember size and position of the current window, when you restart.

I think colors can not be changed easily.
You can switch Themes with a middle-click.
But to customize a theme, you would have to edit it in a texteditor.

/root/.enlightenment/themes/Winter2-p/colormodifiers.cfg or so.
Unfortunately that is solved different in some themes, so you must try to examine these files yourself.

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#109 Post by jctots »

ok.. thanks for the replies... just wondering... in my 1028x768 resolution, the icons are somewhat large... is there a way to make them smaller by not changing the resolution?

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#110 Post by MU »

E 17 - not soon.
I had a cvs-version last august.
It still missed several things, and was quite huge. (40 MB stripped down and without themes, packed!).

And one thing I don't like so much, is that it is based on binaries.
Every configfile is a binary, so you need a tool to modify it.
Then in the enlightenment-news you read again and again that the menugenerator (...) is no longer compatible with the current cvs-snapshot.

Maybe this has become better meanwhile, but I don't see enough advantages yet.
Animated titlebars are cool -ok, but that was the only thing that really makes it different from other desktops. And scalable epplets are nice - but no "must have" for me ;)

Currently I even use Jwm more often than e16, it is just so fast and practical (form follows function - taskbar + some tools in it).

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#111 Post by MU »

To scale the icons, you would have to edit
/root/.enlightenment/ibar

But as I made them themable, you would have to scale down several pictures, too.
The default-pictures are in
/root/.enlightenment/ibar/ibarimages/deskbuttons

But some themes use their own ones.
Originally they were just part of one theme (aztekr2000), I added some symlinks and class-definitions then to the other themes, so that this iconbar can be used by them all. Was kind of tricky...

But you can hide them with a middle-click on the first small button on top of the screen.

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#112 Post by jctots »

ok... thanks for the help... sorry for editing some my questions... i thought it just so silly to ask... thanks again!

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#113 Post by MU »

no, that's not silly :D
It is important to communicate experiences/ideas someone has.
There are meanwhile so many programs for Linux, that I easily loose overview.

Often I just see new ones, because people talk about them in boards :)

time to go asleep now...

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#114 Post by jctots »

here i go again....

how can i remove the icon bars? the one that sticks to left side of the desktop?

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#115 Post by MU »

middle-click on the first button on the screen to hide them.

To disable it, rename the folder
/root/.enlightenment/ibar
to
/root/.enlightenment/ibar--

Then middle-click -> maintainance -> purge all caches
and start another theme to activate the changes.
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#116 Post by jctots »

i have another question...

can i also see the freememapplet on the enlightenment? the one thats being used by jwm? or are there any other options or epplets? and is there a website or faq somewhere that list what the epplets do? thanks...

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#117 Post by MU »

no, I think they don't work.
You can start the enlightenment-epplets with left-click -> epplets.
Be shure to have OpenGL installed, if they don't start
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/DRI/OpenGL-B.pup

To find more, google for "e16 eppletts", but I think there are not many more.

If they should look "broken" (strange colors), write again please.

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Trouble with epplets here as well

#118 Post by fitzhugh »

I'm stoked to have enlightenment, thanks. I had seen it a while ago and liked it.

I'm unable toget the epplets to work. I followed the suggestions in the short thread on just this from a few months back, and the preceeding suggestions as well (openGL, openGL-B, and adding and using the startenlightenment script, but when I call from the menu I just get no response, thouoghj I have seen it crash my whole computer a few times - I think when I called the clock epplet from the command line - didn't try others yet.

Any ideas?
Running Puppy 2.01 with a number of additions but nothing removed.
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More info - missing libgl

#119 Post by fitzhugh »

Ok, had assumed it was no longer missing it cause I'd added the openGL pups as suggested but running from console gets:

sh-3.00# E-Clock.epplet
E-Clock.epplet: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
sh-3.00#

not full crash like I remembered. That was before adding openGL-B I think. However, still missing libGLU. Not clear on how to get libs (I assume that meanslibraries - let me know if wrong) that aren't in a pup or get, though clearly they are cause it works for others. Do I need to find and compile them or are they something that can be dropped in place?

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--added: I also am unable to find the .get Mark refers to in the other thread for adding libGL.

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#120 Post by MU »

try
xwin startenlightenment

If you don't have startenlightenment (did I miss to add it?), create it yourself:

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#!/bin/bash

XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 
export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS

exec enlightenment
Save it as
/usr/bin/startenlightenment

and make it executable with this command:
chmod 755 /usr/bin/startenlightenment

Does this fix your problems?
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