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oligin10

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2011, 00:25    Post subject: exit to prompt  

Hi Scott, when using shutdown dialog from menu, exit to prompt does not work. Just automatically restarts x. I think this was in the Beta 1 version also. I just forgot to mention it. Thanks, Rob
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2011, 03:31    Post subject: Re: exit to prompt  

oligin10 wrote:
Hi Scott, when using shutdown dialog from menu, exit to prompt does not work. Just automatically restarts x. I think this was in the Beta 1 version also. I just forgot to mention it. Thanks, Rob

Hi oligin, yeah I posted about that one, it is a left over of Puppy-desktop-NLS (the i18n method from shinobar) - it requires the use of wmreboot to translate the menu item.. But now we're using tenchos JWM-tools instead of the standard JWM xdg files, I think I will change the shutdown menu slightly, maybe to use Pupshutdown, which I will i18n, and make the translations, as the needed translations are already around elsewhere...

By doing this, I can avoid using 'wmreboot' which is the script that does not seem to work!

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rodin.s

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2011, 14:05    Post subject: i18n-ed pets  

I have made two i18n-pets (gettext): delayed_flash with delayedrun and flash-get and resizepfile.
In resizepfile file /bin/gettext.sh is used for eval_gettext to work. Shinobar used to replace it with the code:
Code:
eval_gettext () {
  local myMESSAGE=$(gettext "$1")
  eval echo \"$myMESSAGE\"
}

But it doesn't work as good with Xdialog in this script.
wizardwizard-0.2.pet
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don570


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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2011, 14:06    Post subject: review beta2  

Review of beta2

1) I had the same behaviour with the 'exit to prompt' as oligin10

2) When zathura_gui opens up it might be nice
if it opened directly to the PDF folder in the my-documents folder
and in that folder there was a small FAQ file in pdf format.
(Note that Abiword does a good job in making small pdf files
of a couple of kilobytes)

3) I installed FBReader and it worked.

4) Both Bacon Recorder and ptm timer have foreign local files
installed. They're just small text files so it hardly matters.

5) When I clicked on paint and draw Rox desktop icons
rgbpaint launched. Not sure what you see in that program.

6) You made changes to screenshot browser that
I don't think are necessary. I deliberately put three
incredibly small images in the Screenshots folder so
when the browser is first opened up there will be an
interesting list for the user to see. This will help
the user to understand how mtpaint does a list.
If mtpaint doesn't find any images in the folder
it will give a warning message, at least in the puppies I've
used. The idea behind Screenshot browser was to encourage the
user to put as many images in this folder for further editing

7 At startup I choose to show the icons on the Rox desktop (1440x900)
and the right-hand side icons didn't find the right corner properly
(see screenshot)

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2011, 14:16    Post subject: xbindkeys bug  

I also noticed a strange bug in Xbindkeys.

When I changed the resolution of the screen using XORG
config file then xbindkeys config app had to be started again
to make the keystroke combinations work again.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2011, 15:36    Post subject: Re: xbindkeys bug  

Jut a quick note, I uploaded a messed up Opera 11 .pet - which is installed by the browser installer, so don't install that one, I broke Flash .. again.. Evil or Very Mad

**EDIT: Should be fixed, with plus all icons working in menu entries Smile **

I'll get back to you guys about the other stuff later... Cheers..

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2011, 16:14    Post subject:  

Also forgot to mention that in Beta 1and 2
the time is not set correctly on my machine which is Linux only.

Using other Puppies I choose UTC and then do a software adjustment.

I noticed that if I use Radky's control panel to change
hardware clock I get a vague warning message that it
is not installed --> perhaps this refers to
/usr/sbin/set_hwclock_type which I noticed that this file
isn't installed.
Here's a reference...
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01616

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2011, 17:51    Post subject:  

rodin.s wrote:
I have made two i18n-pets (gettext): delayed_flash with delayedrun and flash-get and resizepfile.
In resizepfile file /bin/gettext.sh is used for eval_gettext to work. Shinobar used to replace it with the code:
Code:
eval_gettext () {
  local myMESSAGE=$(gettext "$1")
  eval echo \"$myMESSAGE\"
}

But it doesn't work as good with Xdialog in this script.

Thanks that's great, nicely done! I'll add it to my SFS soon.. Very Happy

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2) When zathura_gui opens up it might be nice if it opened directly to the PDF folder in the my-documents folder and in that folder there was a small FAQ file in pdf format.

Personally, I do not agree.. it's bad to store files in /root, for various reasons, but better to keep things on an mounted drive..

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4) Both Bacon Recorder and ptm timer have foreign local files
installed. They're just small text files so it hardly matters.

I thought I installed the NLS files as well... Oops...

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5) When I clicked on paint and draw Rox desktop icons
rgbpaint launched. Not sure what you see in that program.

It's a leftover.. I will update the default** files in /usr/local/bin.. I never use the ROX icons so never noticed.. oops!

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6) You made changes to screenshot browser that I don't think are necessary... The idea behind Screenshot browser was to encourage the user to put as many images in this folder for further editing

The changes are necessary, and it's more effort to remove them again.. Without my changes, Mtpaint opens with errors if no images found, that's not right... And again, it's not good to store things in /root, things can get easily lost/corrupted, and easily missed in remasters..

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7) At startup I choose to show the icons on the Rox desktop (1440x900) and the right-hand side icons didn't find the right corner properly (see screenshot)

I know exactly what to do to fix this (I think), look in /root/.xinitrc and uncomment line 124... Then rename /usr/sbin/fixPuppyPin.bak to /usr/sbin/fixPuppyPin.. And restart X.. I have no widescreen monitors, or high enough res video cards to test it..

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When I changed the resolution of the screen using XORG config file then xbindkeys config app had to be started again to make the keystroke combinations work again. Plus all the extra apps and translations, etc Smile

I thought you had to restart Xorg to change resolutions anyway... Question But yes, if you can find a better xbindkeys package, that is less buggy, that would be great! (I tried!)

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Also forgot to mention that in Beta 1and 2 the time is not set correctly on my machine which is Linux only... I get a vague warning message that it is not installed --> perhaps this refers to /usr/sbin/set_hwclock_type which I noticed that this file isn't installed.

I'll look into it, but it might even be an unsupported feature of the kernel used, if I remember correctly... probably wrong there, though... but really, how many people are using Linux only machines? I never boot XP, but keep it installed just in case..

What happens if you use it on a PC with windows installed?

But actually, the time setup works better for me in pup4 than later pups.. But worse for others I guess... Setting the correct time can still be done easily --> Just click on the time, then click on the 'Time' button in PupClockSet to set it to anything you want..

Thanks for all the testing, apps, translations and feedback, it's very much appreciated! Akita is getting much better, you guys are helping me catch things that I would definitely miss by myself!!

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technosaurus


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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2011, 19:50    Post subject:  

Iirc, you can change resolutions without restarting X, by using xrandr... provided your xserver supports it.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2011, 05:51    Post subject:  

Changes made so far, after Beta2 was uploaded

(these updates are NOT included in Beta2, but they ARE included in Beta 3):

Code:
- fixes for jwm_menu_create
      - updated category selection from 0.7, duplicate entries allowed
      - added more sub categories to 'multimedia' category
- edited the .desktop files
      - changed their cats, to appear in correct place, or multiple
      - added the improved russian translations from rodin.s
- updated pfind to 4.23, required
- updated defaultwordprocessor to use "doc2txt" (docx2txt and dox2pdf also available)
- updated defaults-chooser to include doc2txt, docx2txt, doc2pdf in wordprocessor selection
      
- updated docx2txt, now loads the file contents into the 'mp' console editor
- updated /usr/bin/mocp-wrapper
      - uses mrxvt, for nicer colours
- added "Play with Mocp" right-click option
   - for most audio files, asks to 'play now' or 'add to playlist'
- added "Add to archive" right-click option, uses xarchiver
   - added to many filetypes: dir, iso, ms docs, ext images, sfs files, etc
- added xls2csv and ppt2txt - console .xls and .ppt converters
- added .csv run action, right click options and mime type

- i18n'd jwmconfig, wizardwizard, xkdbmanager, input-wizard, xserverwizard (thanks rodin.s)
- added ru translations for the above
- updated ru translation in jwm_menu_create

- fixed antiword (put it back in) .. fixes doc2txt and others
- updated elinks_shell, better geometry
- updated JWM keybindings, check /root/.jwm/jwm-extras
- updated mrxvt keybindings, check /root/.mrxvt
- updated /root/.elinks/elinks.conf, better GUI colours, more updates
- updated mocp-wrapper, better frontend for the Mocp ROX right-click option
- updated musicplayer options in defaults-chooser, fixes, also now includes mocp-wrapper

- added proper ffconvert ROX-App, replaced its old ROX right click options for all media files
- added mhwaveedit ROX-App, with ROX right-click options for audio files
- added check-deps ROX-App, with ROX right-click options for executables
- added Slideshow ROX-App, using feh, with ROX right-click options for images
- added doc2txt, pdftotext, pdftohtml ROX-Apps, with ROX right-click options for .doc and .pdf files
- added Slideshow ROX-App, using feh, with right-click options for images
- added Mocp right click options for some more audio formats
- removed "Set as Wallpaper" ROX-App, it was broken
- fixed pman, uses elinks_shell if X is running, no errors in terminal
- updated jwm_menu_create, fixed 'Exit to prompt' menu entry.. now simply runs 'killall X' command
- added xls2csv into defaults-chooser, under spreadsheet programs
- added MS docx MIME type and MIME icon, plus default run action and 'View as Text' ROX-App with right click option (uses docx2txt)
- deleted .ru xpad .mo file, showed up very badly, was not working

- updated wizard.mo ru translations
- i18n'd /usr/sbin/delayedrun,flash-get, added ru translations
- updated flash-get: now downloads a MUCH smaller flash7 package
- fixed ROX icon widescreen alignment:
      - removed comment from WhoDo in .xinitrc, to run fixPuppyPin
      - removed .bak extension from /usr/sbin/fixPuppyPin.bak
- fixed menu entries for the dillo and opera .pet packages in browser-installer
- updated sysinfobox menu entry to PupSysInfo
- fixed 'Exit to prompt' menu entry, now exits to terminal OK
- added doc2pdf ROX right click option for .doc files

also
Code:
- better Excel spreadsheet support:
      - added /usr/bin/xlhtml and /usr/bin/xls2html wrapper
      - added xlhtml ROX-App, with right click options for .xls files
      - added xls2csv ROX-App, with right click options for .xls files
      - added 'column' command to /usr/bin (used in above script.. from 'bsdmain_utils-0.8.13' pkg)
- updated elinks_shell and /usr/local/apps/elinks_browser (better geometry)
- updated /usr/bin/wmexit, should now work OK
- updated /usr/local/bin/defaultspreadsheet, now uses "xls2html"
- updated defaults-chooser, now supports "xls2html" and "xls2csv"
- updated Xorg fully, to Wary 5.1.x version
- updated PPM to use the "wary5OLD" repo as its default..
- updated elinks settings, better support for external programs
- updated mailcap, added lots of missing entries for audio/video

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Sep 2011, 10:46    Post subject: Has the Wary repo moved??
Subject description: wary5OLD repo... and pupdialog..
 

The repo that Akita uses as its default has moved!
This will need investigation!! It is now at:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/quirky/pet_packages-wary5OLD/


It seems the Wary repo has moved... I am now installed the xorg_server from which ever repo Akita finds - I think it will now be the new one - in which the xorg_server does not xcb, and will break Akita... Lets see.... I maybe wrong, wary5OLD may just be a symlink for future use? Have to read Barrys blog!

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EDIT: Yes, the PPM in Akita is now broken when using the Wary5 repo!!

I will have to update the URL which Akita uses to find the .pets in the PPM in the next ISO (beta3)..

***


Also, should I bother installing 'pupdialog', by Barry? I don't think I need to as I already have the dialog_functions thing by going nuts installed in Akita... Pupdialog is here: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02488

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Sep 2011, 11:23    Post subject: Re: Has the Wary repo moved??
Subject description: wary5OLD repo... and pupdialog..
 

OK, I have updated /usr/sbin/petget, so that the PPM works fine again..

So the next Akita ISO will use the Wary5OLD repo... Not the latest wary5.2..
But it is still the same repo as Wary51x (5.1.x)

But I wonder if I need to update /root/.packages/livepackages5.txt
The wary 5 repo is sure to have a few extra packages in it since I created livepackages5.txt from its contents...

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Sep 2011, 14:28    Post subject:  

I noticed that precord and Bacon Recorder
are listed under 'Editors' which I find confusing.

________________________________

I upgraded Quick Launch to 1.4
It should be finished now. I just received a Spanish
translation from the forum.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=71538

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Sep 2011, 15:21    Post subject: pup_event_frontend_d  

pup_event_frontend_d doesn't display an icon for each partition. I have ICONDESK=true and ICONPARTITIONS=true in /etc/eventmanager but no desktop icons.
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Sep 2011, 16:26    Post subject: Re: pup_event_frontend_d  

rodin.s wrote:
pup_event_frontend_d doesn't display an icon for each partition.
I have ICONDESK=true and ICONPARTITIONS=true in /etc/eventmanager but no desktop icons.

Hmmm, it works fine on mine... But I don't mess with it too much...

Do you have any (ROX) drive icons? If so, desksetup should be able to fix it,
but I know of a few addtions I could make to improve it further - which will
at least fix any issues it has of NOT solving your problem Wink

I have not changed any code in pup_event_frontend_d that would affect the drive
icons, so not sure what's happening there...

Maybe, maunally edit /root/.toggle-rox-destoprc, make sure it's got the correct
value in it... Then re-run Toggle-ROX-Desktop...

BTW, I have noticed that after running "Refresh Desktop", the first
(unmountable) drive icon is added twice (the old one is not removed when drive
icons refreshed... maybe clean_desk_icons doesn't work, or isn't used?)

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don, I am still playing with menu entries and their categories, but I
don't want to play with it too much, or we'll need new translations! Not good.

I will update your Bookmarks thing to 1.4 as well, thanks..

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Also, I have fully updated Xorg to the Wary 5.1.x stuff, including all modules.
This means lots of updated Xorg modules, and many more of them!

I had to tweak it a bit to make setting keyboard layouts work..
But it's working fine now Smile

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