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Tuxified
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#41 Post by Tuxified »

Downloaded v2.3 and used UNetbootin to install it to a 1gig thumbdrive.

Booted up the thumbdrive on my Acer Aspire D255E netbook and everything seems to be working well including the onboard wireless.

Well done DPUP5520,
It's a Keeper.

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#42 Post by DPUP5520 »

@Roger Hunter
Almost every tool in it is a recovery program of some sort I'll just go through a few since it's a huge list.
1. partclone/partimage/ntfscopy(part of ntfsprogs) - all these are for creating clones/copies of your hard drive in case of a crash/hard drive is failing.
2. Smartmontools/gsmartcontrol - see if a hard drive is failing
3. Teamviewer - can remotely support a computer
4. ms-sys - write a new mbr
5. ntfsprogs - includes ntfsfix, ntfscopy, and ntfsundelete as well as about 15 other tools for working with ntfs partitions (built into puppy)
6. lcrack/rarcrack/jtr - recover lost passwords from windows/rar/zip among other container types.
7. aircrack-ng - Yes I know most see this as a "hacking" program but albeit that I quite often find airodump-ng along with Kismet quite useful for diagnosing network issues.
8. chntpw - reset Windows passwords as well as a registry editor
9. Opendoser - This is not a recovery program but rather an open source SBG format audio player that I often use while I am waiting for a process or recovery to finish, very relaxing.
10. Testdisk/Photorec - recover lost partitions and/or make non-booting disks bootable again/file data recovery software designed to recover lost files including video, documents and archives from hard disks, CD-ROMs, and lost pictures.

15 random programs and quick explanations, some of the others that you may not recognize are because they never came out of beta states or were never really widely used but rest assured that I've tested and used every program on this cd and they all work quite well, if you don't know what a program is or how to use it Google is your friend.
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#43 Post by DPUP5520 »

@Tuxified

Thanks, I'm not nearly as good as most of the other people who release their derivatives on here neither am I as patient (I don't rebuild from scratch like most do as you can tell from the lupu_528.sfs) but I hope that for people that have the right understanding of most of the tools on here that it will be helpful for their repair/recovery needs and help them not have to go to another OS for those needs.
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#44 Post by Roger Hunter »

Ok, so I'm nearsighted but of the 15 files you listed, I managed to find only 3 of them in the menus.

I'm not doubting they're all in there somewhere, I just couldn't find them.

Roger

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#45 Post by DPUP5520 »

Most of the programs are CLI Apps(they have no UI) so there will be no menu entry for them that is why there is no menu entries for most of the apps, I had considered making the entire OS without X but the amount of work required to completely strip out everything having to do with video was just waay too much work.

Edit: If you are planning on using jtr without a dictonary (in incremental mode or brute force mode) you can't use the gui because of the way 1.7.8 is set up, you have to call john from /usr/local/run/john (just as a little side tip).
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#46 Post by Roger Hunter »

Ah, ok, no wonder I couldn't find them!

Thanks,

Roger

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#47 Post by cifa »

just like to say - great work on this release.
its a godsend having a rescueOS - plus great work with flash integrated/working antivirus...

cheers

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#48 Post by DPUP5520 »

Thank you. I know it's a pain having to register Avast every time you boot up but it's way better(more accurate) than F-Prot and way smaller than AVG so I prefer it. BTW you might wanna upgrade the Flash if you plan on installing PupRescue frugally due to the zero day exploit that was just found on the version of Flash that PupRescue uses.
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#49 Post by nooby »

Avast came as number two on a test someone made and there where a thread linking to it here in forum and not I fail to find it again.
was it Bitdefender that was number one?
So I wold want to use Avast too :)
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#50 Post by faifpuhp »

Does PupRescue ask if you want Flash or not, the way standard Puppy does? That'd be nice, for example I have no use for Flash at all, and even less given the latest in a long line of exploits.

(Someday more people will give up on Flash just because they want their distro to live up to its promises of being more secure than Windows, but asking before running/installing is a good compromise for now.) And yes, I'm totally implying that people are making their systems closer to Windows vulnerability-wise by running Flash, although I would still trust that over Windows and its many other deliberate holes.
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#51 Post by Tman »

DPUP5520,

I'm sure the tools you've added in this puplet will come in very handy for me when I need to troubleshoot down the road. I thought this puplet would be more of a barebones puppy with rescue tools added on, but I was surpised to find that it is a full Lucid Puppy along with those tools and apps. Thanks for your efforts in making this. I would never have known about the majority of those tools if you hadn't made Puppy Rescue OS.

Well done! :)

One suggestion I would like to add for improvement is to make a list of the tools you've added along with a brief description and the terminal commands on how to run those tools. Perhaps editing the Puppy Jumping Off page would be a good place to put that info.

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#52 Post by DPUP5520 »

@faifpuhp no it does not , Flash is built into the distro so it does not ask you if you want to install Flash or not. However since I originally intended this to only be run live without a save file I was not really concerned about the vulnerability aspect.

@Tman The list on the first post has all the included/modified programs that are in PupRescue, when I get a chance I will list the commands to use them and also include commands for built in rescue/recovery programs for Puppy that I haven't modified. I am going to include a barebones type version with less tools and a stripped down Puppy im just waiting for Hondasid's Barebones 528 to come out as he does a much better job at stripping down Puppy than I can do.
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#53 Post by cifa »

DPUP5520 wrote:BTW you might wanna upgrade the Flash if you plan on installing PupRescue frugally due to the zero day exploit that was just found on the version of Flash that PupRescue uses.
thanks for the heads up - I wasn't aware of that exploit.
I have a frugal installation with a pupsave (I created a multiboot USB with Yumi). I'll get on with the flash update tho'
I personally really like the 'full' experience of your distro - great to have the rescue tools but just as great to have firefox/write etc built in.

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#54 Post by darkcity »

added to the big Puppy List
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyVersion

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#55 Post by nooby »

May I ask a nosy question. impolite even ?

Now and then or maybe only when one want to save to an encrypted
save file but maybe even at other times even Puppy tell us that we need a
defragged hdd to do the saving on.

Likewise when one need to do a iso boot or something then the programs
asks if one have a big enough defragged part of teh partition for them to use

So my question is. Does it have a defragger that one don't need to boot up in Ms Windows for to use?
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#56 Post by DPUP5520 »

Thanks darkcity

@nooby To put it simply there is no way to do a true defrag from Linux for Windows, however if you are worried about the filesystem getting corrupt from resizing or the like you can run ntfs-fix which is much the same as Windows chkdsk command.
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#57 Post by nooby »

DPUP5520 wrote:Thanks darkcity

@nooby To put it simply there is no way to do a true defrag from Linux for Windows, however if you are worried about the filesystem getting corrupt from resizing or the like you can run ntfs-fix which is much the same as Windows chkdsk command.
Thanks that helps with a file that already exists then?
While a true defrag move things around? To fill the gaps.

Now I know. One should boot into Win XP light that exists on Hiren's
rescue or something like that one and maybe these have a defrag prog?


okay to something else. Rescuing from malware.
PupRescue is intended to be a rescue tool for Windows systems that may have crashed, gotten a virus, or just need to be cleaned out.
Yes that is why I asked recently about the thread where someone linked to a text online about different AV for linux or Unix varieties.

Bitdefender seems to have got highest votes but Avast came in as a good second best.

F-prot from Frisk Protection company was not even considered?

I spent some 4 hours trying to find that thread again and asked around
but none seems to remember it.

Them gave examples how one did an install of avast. Rather tricky one needed to write something in a file?

So what about tjhis rescue pup. Has it Avast in it from scratch? or is it easy to install it. Maybe the text file mention it. Sorry me drown in all such texts. But if it has a alphabetical list then Avast comes high or in the beginning.
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#58 Post by DPUP5520 »

I don't know if Hiren's can defrag windows or not sorry. Yes avast if fully installed in PupRescue and patched to fixed the update bug(patch is in the startup folder), however u have to email avast to get a key to be able to use it. As I just mentioned in the other thread bitdefender is not free and to loop the trial version of it would be illegal.
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#59 Post by nooby »

Thanks that is why I asked around for Avast so eagerly.

Now I have your Puprescue installed on a Packard Bell A6 Laptop 13" screen.

But to my horror I read this :)
since I originally intended this to only be run live without a save file I was not really concerned about the vulnerability aspect.
Ooops and I have already made your puprescue to my main puppy on that machine due to it had that rescue thing. But I agree it is meant to be a rescue distro so I am on my own then.

Any ideas what I have to look into. Now I reuse the old Lupu528 savefile.

I guess that would work okay? It did not even notice anything was different and just booted as usual. Same background as I have chosen and everything looks like it should.

So now I only need to learn that bleachbit thing. and to get the avast code.
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#60 Post by DPUP5520 »

Lol what I meant mostly by not being concerned about vulnerability is that it has programs installed such as Flash, and the shockwave plugin and an unsecured Pidgin instead of a more hardened browser and encrypted chat and email, this is no less secure than your standard Puppy (excluding the unpatched Flash being built in which u can easily update).

Edit: btw nooby no it's not a new distro it's classified as a derivative/puplet just like most of the others on here and has many customizations aside from just throwing a bunch of programs in and being done, the only difference is I took a base 528 and customized it from there instead of building from scratch, that's why the lupu-528.sfs is not changed to reflect the PupRescue name.
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