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jim3630


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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep 2011, 19:05    Post subject: Re: broadcom chip  
don570 wrote:
Try this pet for broadcom wireless.


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=935718266&t=71777

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that link is only the firmware and it was compiled in 2.6.39.4

fluppy needs drivers compiled in it's kernel which is 2.6.35.7

try this link

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=66857

if tempestuous doesn't have it in that thread I would ask him if could help you.
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roadkill13

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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep 2011, 19:55    Post subject: Puppeee site down
Subject description: found some puppeee files		  
Here is a link to some of Jemimah's puppeee and fluppy files.

http://smokey01.com/jemimah/

Might want to get them while they are hot.
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tlchost

Joined: 05 Aug 2007
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Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
PostPosted: Wed 28 Sep 2011, 04:10    Post subject: Re: Puppeee site down
Subject description: found some puppeee files		  
roadkill13 wrote:
Here is a link to some of Jemimah's puppeee and fluppy files.

http://smokey01.com/jemimah/

Might want to get them while they are hot.


Too late....they went off line just a bit ago

Edit....back on line again

Thom
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tempestuous

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Sep 2011, 05:59    Post subject:  
don570 wrote:
Try this pet for broadcom wireless.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=935718266&t=71777

No no no! That's just the firmware needed by the latest brcm80211 (brcmsmac/brcmfmac) Broadcom wifi drivers ...
but Fluppy-013 does not have a new-enough kernel to contain these new drivers, it still has the old b43 Broadcom driver.
For recent Broadcom wifi devices, Fluppy-013 probably needs the proprietary "wl" Broadcom wifi driver, but I'm not prepared to search through the 129 pages of this forum thread to discover if anyone has compiled this driver for Fluppy.

Bottom line: probably best to use Three-Headed-Dog or Dpup Exprimo.

jim3630 wrote:
that link is only the firmware and it was compiled in 2.6.39.4

No no no! Firmware is a binary "blob" which is not compiled at all. Thus, it's kernel version-independent.
What's more relevant is that the new Broadcom wifi drivers (which require this firmware) are found only in more recent kernels.
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jim3630


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Sep 2011, 11:14    Post subject:  
tempestuous wrote:
Fluppy-013 probably needs the proprietary "wl" Broadcom wifi driver, .


had fluppy installed at one time so it either has wl.ko driver installed in the iso or there is a pet and probably on first few pages since I cannot find it in my broadcom folder.

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ah! here it is on the first page

The current kernel version is 2.6.35.7. ....3rd party drivers included are ndiswrapper, keucr, wl, rtl8192se, rt3070sta, acerhdf, tkusb, and backported brcm80211. .........
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jim3630


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Sep 2011, 11:26    Post subject: Re: Acer Netbook Wireless  
tlchost wrote:
Fluppy 13 does not seem to recognize the wireless chip in the Acer D255E netbook.

Fluppy tells me its and unknown broadcom device....windows 7 says it is Broadcom 802.11n

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Thom


tlchost, since has the broadcom wl driver already installed in the iso you can proceed to debug your problem and tempestuous is you man for that.
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Sep 2011, 11:37    Post subject:  
tempestuous wrote:
jim3630 wrote:
that link is only the firmware and it was compiled in 2.6.39.4

No no no! Firmware is a binary "blob" which is not compiled at all. Thus, it's kernel version-independent.
What's more relevant is that the new Broadcom wifi drivers (which require this firmware) are found only in more recent kernels.


tempestuous your poignant and educational posts always bring a smile. you must be a school teacher you do remind me of one of mine. thanks.
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edoc


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Sep 2011, 11:53    Post subject:  
I recommend that Fluppy 013 users take a look at Dpup Exprimo, currently in version 5.X.7, and under aggressive evelopment:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70399

I have tested it on laptops and netbooks with excellent results.
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tlchost

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Sep 2011, 13:38    Post subject: Re: Acer Netbook Wireless  
jim3630 wrote:


tlchost, since has the broadcom wl driver already installed in the iso you can proceed to debug your problem and tempestuous is you man for that.


Odd, the fluppy sfs file must have been corrupt....put in a new copy and all is well.

Thanks to all for the hints.

Thom
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jim3630


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Sep 2011, 14:13    Post subject: Re: Acer Netbook Wireless  
tlchost wrote:
jim3630 wrote:


tlchost, since has the broadcom wl driver already installed in the iso you can proceed to debug your problem and tempestuous is you man for that.


Odd, the fluppy sfs file must have been corrupt....put in a new copy and all is well.

Thanks to all for the hints.

Thom


glad to hear it worked out.
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Oct 2011, 09:38    Post subject: Re: Acer Netbook Wireless  
jim3630 wrote:

glad to hear it worked out.


Yep....so am I.

Would there be any interest in a forum devoted to Fluppy and Puppeee?

If so, I'd be happy to host it.

Thom
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dougeeebear

Joined: 08 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Oct 2011, 19:30    Post subject:  
tlchost wrote:
Would there be any interest in a forum devoted to Fluppy and Puppeee?

If so, I'd be happy to host it.

Thom
That's a nice gesture, but it's kind of pointless with no active development going forward.
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tlchost

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Oct 2011, 19:48    Post subject:  
dougeeebear wrote:
tlchost wrote:
Would there be any interest in a forum devoted to Fluppy and Puppeee?

If so, I'd be happy to host it.

Thom
That's a nice gesture, but it's kind of pointless with no active development going forward.


Oh right...I forgot that no one would really want to share things they have learned about either OS, whether or not newer apps run in them, stuff like that.
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edoc


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Oct 2011, 19:59    Post subject:  
I have not yet found problems with any newer apps, but ...

The small miracle that was Fluppy 013 was Jemimah-centered, when she left the project it began to age-out ...

The problem spots are Internet-related apps, new hardware, and specialty apps which often require tweaks by the Puplet developer ... and that drives newer versions.

Midori is a unique case. Only Jemimah was able to get a stable Midori to work in Fluppy 013. Now that she is gone no one else will port Midori to another suitable Puplet so it appears that it will die with Fluppy 013. (Doubly sad because Midori has some unique features.)

New nics and printers and video hardware are popping up constantly and it is difficult to get anyone to chase-down bugs in an abandoned Puplet.

Therefore, much as Fluppy 013 has been the gold standard for our laptops and netbooks to-date, we are switching to the Squeeze project, now at just-released v. 5X8 ... and looking very promising.

IMHO, YMMV ...
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mfalls

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 07:11    Post subject: Re: Acer Netbook Wireless  
tlchost wrote:
jim3630 wrote:

glad to hear it worked out.


Yep....so am I.

Would there be any interest in a forum devoted to Fluppy and Puppeee?

If so, I'd be happy to host it.

Thom

I would definitely follow the posts in the forum, spent a good part of yesterday seeing if I had saved some of the excellent documentation at puppeee.com.
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