Puppy Phone - VOIP using SIP

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#401 Post by jamesbond »

dogle wrote:Not good news though - I still get the same error messages re. Psip32's attempts to setup its initial audio configuration, and it still freezes when I attempt to put in data, without establishing a /.psip.config file.
It's almost certain the lock-up is caused by the specific interaction between pjsip's audio library (PortAudio), ALSA, and your machine. I have similar lock-up on very specific conditions then I run psip32 under VirtualBox - but not others. pjsip (the underlying library used by PSIP) can also under ALSA directly but it's horribly immature (I can't even get it to work on my machine). I welcome anyone who knows PortAudio better to look into pjsip's source and find what's wrong with that.
has anyone else notice that Wary's devx is missing several .so files? ... causes some severe bloatage (cairo, png,rsvg, xvidcore ...) or maybe I have the wrong devx? the binaries are a lot smaller without a static cairo
Not with me - I have all these libraries?
btw I just stumbled on this:
http://www.creytiv.com/baresip.html
Nice, I will see whether this will build. Documentation is next to nil though ...
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#402 Post by BarryK »

technosaurus wrote:has anyone else notice that Wary's devx is missing several .so files? ... causes some severe bloatage (cairo, png,rsvg, xvidcore ...) or maybe I have the wrong devx? the binaries are a lot smaller without a static cairo
You had me worried for a moment! I just checked, cairo, png, rsvg -- .so files are present. I am running Wary 5.1.106.

But, there is no libxvidcore.so!
...I'll fix it.
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#403 Post by technosaurus »

BarryK wrote:
technosaurus wrote:has anyone else notice that Wary's devx is missing several .so files? ... causes some severe bloatage (cairo, png,rsvg, xvidcore ...) or maybe I have the wrong devx? the binaries are a lot smaller without a static cairo
You had me worried for a moment! I just checked, cairo, png, rsvg -- .so files are present. I am running Wary 5.1.106.

But, there is no libxvidcore.so!
...I'll fix it.
its probably the sfs version strings biting me in the but... symlinks were there, but pointed to wrong/missing versions(i usually just rename the devx as the zdrv ... have to version it now and its difficult to keep track, ill probably just start using my sfs linker that I posted in jwmtools, its just as fast and no headaches when in pfix=ram) I fixed mine up and removed redundant static libs ... huge size difference.
Check out my [url=https://github.com/technosaurus]github repositories[/url]. I may eventually get around to updating my [url=http://bashismal.blogspot.com]blogspot[/url].

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#404 Post by gcmartin »

I've looked thru most of the documentation we have. Sometimes trying to explain in words does not carry the messge as clearly as a picture does.

Here's a picture. Do we have a labeled similar picture?
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#405 Post by BarryK »

GCMartin,
One thing I noticed right-off looking at your picture, is lack of a "help" button. The same with Psip -- well, I am trailing behind, I looked at it about a week ago, version 1.0 I think -- and I immediately noticed the main window lacked a "help" button.

Cos, newbies to Psip or voip in general might want some simple intro to what it is all about and how to get going.
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#406 Post by russoodle »

BarryK wrote:GCMartin,
One thing I noticed right-off looking at your picture, is lack of a "help" button. The same with Psip -- well, I am trailing behind, I looked at it about a week ago, version 1.0 I think -- and I immediately noticed the main window lacked a "help" button.

Cos, newbies to Psip or voip in general might want some simple intro to what it is all about and how to get going.
Hi Barry, gcmartin,

Below is a screenshot of Psip version 1.2, (although a number of the iterations between 1.0 and now have included it)....your 'Help' button is second from right in the main window and clicking on it directs you to this page in your browser, which is a fairly comprehensive html help file, with illustrative images, written by Smokey01. He's put a lot of time and effort into it and done a great job for us, but if you feel something is missing, he'd probably want you to let him know.

The PuppyPlayground you see there is just my name for a group of contacts....you can name your groups anything you wish.

I'm using this particular release in Slacko5 on an Intel Mac and it's behaving well, except for a couple of very short (ie. two or three seconds) dropouts last night.

In spite of the bugs we've had, which jamesbond is working hard on squashing, (we won't let him out of the dungeon until he's finished!), i'm loving it!

:)
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#407 Post by BarryK »

Help button, that's fantastic! I had better catch-up, the Psip that I last looked at didn't have that button, but that is obviously ancient history.
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#408 Post by smokey01 »

Psip has always had help as far as I can remember.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 735#212735

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 517#216517

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 272#257272

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 346#560346

Some links were broken in the older 0.12 version until I upgraded it to 0.26.

The newer 1.* series has new help included.

The help is quite relevant but I still need to make some minor adjustments.

What version were you looking at Barry?

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Can you use MagicJack adapter with Puppy Phone

#409 Post by LoboGrande »

I've been wanting to use MagicJack with Puppy. Anybody done this before?

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#410 Post by BarryK »

smokey01 wrote:Psip has always had help as far as I can remember.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 735#212735

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 517#216517

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 272#257272

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 346#560346

Some links were broken in the older 0.12 version until I upgraded it to 0.26.

The newer 1.* series has new help included.

The help is quite relevant but I still need to make some minor adjustments.

What version were you looking at Barry?
It may have been 0.26. I must have been blind.
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#411 Post by smokey01 »

Barry,

You should give this one a run. It's not so good on old hardware but it was compiled on Wary-512.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=47522

Works well here.

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#412 Post by dogle »

A few days ago I was searching for more 'gen on some Psip related issue and by chance I stumbled across a couple of really, really good plain-language screeds which I found very helpful. I bookmarked these intending to suggest that they might be worth considering as a possible addition to smokey01's excellent Help page as 'further reading' links .... then I pulled the wrong plug and my session was lorst & gorn f'rever ..... and of course I can't remember the search terms I was using.

I've now spent some hours trying to rediscover these (still working on it, 'may be gone for some time') and my conclusion is that there is a pile of of incomprehensible/outdated/pretty useless stuff out there, with just a few really helpful gems lurking underneath if only you know where to find them.

I suspect that I am not alone in struggling to get my head around the wider aspects of VoIP technology - may I suggest to fellow Puppy Phone enthusiasts that if you have the good fortune to hit paydirt on really good information resources, post the links on here (quick, before you lose them like I did).

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#413 Post by Lobster »

thanks dogle for advice

Next conference call on Sunday October 16 2011 at 1300h GMT daylight saving time

Last Sunday was not successful for me. :?
Should have set things up properly beforehand
or tried to phone dogle and our other intrepid testers :)

few hours to get ready . . .
I will try to get in with Slacko rc2 (if available) or Fatdog 5.2

We are getting Puppy Phone in Puppy 8)
Which version is in Wary 5.2 - what is the plan for Racy?

Any other news?
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#414 Post by Lobster »

Success :)
Dog biscuits all round . . .

I was able to successfully use a 15 October 2011 v1.2 compile on Slackorc++
on the conference call - thanks to all who turned up 8)

Dogle is still having probs with his voice breaking up - but dogle is dogged
- we will get there. 8)

Next conference call on Sunday October 23 2011 at 1300h GMT daylight saving time

The latest compiles are here:

Click on the red phone icon
http://www.smokey01.com/menu/

Grant suggests you get rid of any previous
/root/.psip.conf
(to see that 'invisible file) go to root in rox and click on the eye
- if you work from the command line then . . . eh . . . do some geeky stuff . . .

then open and close Psip Puppy Phone program to create the config file
and then setup
http://www.smokey01.com/help/psip/psip- ... ocId537934
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#415 Post by smokey01 »

It seems awfully quiet in here.

Does that mean all is working well now?

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#416 Post by Sylvander »

Not for me it isn't. :(

1. Been setting up Wary-5.2...
Going quite well so far.
Except when I got to trying out the included Puppy Phone [version 1.2].
When attempting to configure it, the program freezes on me.
I'd hoped to get the latest version included and working in this latest Wary [5.2].
What's the latest version of the Puppy Phone?
How should I uninstall this non-functioning version and install another?

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#417 Post by BarryK »

Sylvander wrote:Not for me it isn't. :(

1. Been setting up Wary-5.2...
Going quite well so far.
Except when I got to trying out the included Puppy Phone [version 1.2].
When attempting to configure it, the program freezes on me.
I'd hoped to get the latest version included and working in this latest Wary [5.2].
What's the latest version of the Puppy Phone?
How should I uninstall this non-functioning version and install another?
I put the PET that had been compiled for Wary and posted earlier in this thread, into Wary 5.2. I didn't test it myself though, which I should have done.
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#418 Post by smokey01 »

Barry I have done the same.

Recompiled it in a virgin frugal of wary-5.2 and put the dotpet here:
http://www.smokey01.com/software/psip/P ... Wary52.pet

It seems to work better on later kernels and more modern equipment <10yrs.

I did have trouble installing devx. It kept complaining "there are too many menu item for pupdial to handle"

I installed and used load_sfs to get the devx to work, then it compiled fine.

The sound did droped out occasionally and the volume and mic sliders in the call window were set at zero and wouldn't move. Obviously a problem with sound.

We are not having the same problem with Lucid, Slacko, Fatdog or Dpup Exprimo.

We also had problems in Racy with the sliders. I'm not sure what you have done differently in racy and wary but something must be different to the others.

Cheers.

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#419 Post by nooby »

Lobster when you have time??? can you not write a short easy to grasp
explanation how you use that Puppy phone?
Hi Guys,
I have not used PSIP for 3 years
Suppose I want to make such a phone call to you then.

I go to PPM and look up Puppy Phone and click on it and the pet
get installed and then I click on the menu for puppy phone
and then it says. You have to know the puppy phone number to Lobster
or I have no idea how to make that phone call to him!

I guess your Profile have your Puppy phone number?

ah yes here it is
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyPhone

oops maybe this one instead
http://www.smokey01.com/help/psip/psip-help.html

if I get the text. One simply join something named Iptel
Iptel Free Sip Account recommended
and then decide username there and call the email address?
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#420 Post by Lobster »

Here is an essay by Grant (he was awarded 9½/10)
http://www.smokey01.com/help/psip/psip- ... ocId537934

Let us know when the music and other tests work . . .
and you can leave a voice message . . .
Let us know what is difficult to comprehend?

Here is my essay for which I only got 3½/10
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyPhone
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