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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Mon 17 Oct 2011, 09:58    Post_subject:  

Thanks for the info and suggestions, I will get back to ya later...

***EDIT: OK, I am back.

Puppyt wrote:
Just a quick note about your repository, sc0ttman -
I tried numptyphysics and it generated two menu items in the Fun section.

Yep, I posted about duplicate menu items above, I will have a hack a jwm_menu_create, see what I can do...

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I thought also that it had a neat soundtrack and effects I couldn't get here - perhaps that was Crayon Physics I remember.

Yeah, thats crayon physics, which is really really good!

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GnuChess doesn't have a menu item

It's a CLI chess engine that needs a frontend.. the description states this in the PPM (which you can't see yet!)

However I may remove the chess engines from PPM and just offer a complete "xboard+fairymax" bundle, which includes an engine... Maybe also a cboard+gnuchess bundle.. I think that's best..

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wbar and wbarCC won't load properly as pets unless via PupControl. When I tried to run wbar control console, couldn't see it start and when I rebooted X I lost my xorgwizard settings.

Both of these packages need cleaning up for Akita, as they work out of the box on Puppy Arcade..

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All the other games I tried seemed to load fine (except FreeCiv). Sorry that I can't be more diagnostic with my feedback at the present time.
Cheers.

That's great, thanks for testing..

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PS I actually PM'ed dave earlier last week to ask if he had an "IceBox" pupplet to showcase his wares - it would be amazing if you could resurrect that pet 'project' if you have it handy.

I will definitely get it in the repo, but have had troubles with auto installing tcl+tk, by listing them as deps - others that I've done work fine Question I actually included nearly all of them in Puppy Arcade as default - so there is one puplet out there showcasing his apps Smile

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What about SoftMaker2008 for an office suite? Still a licensing issue with that?

I uploaded most of it while at my 2nd (less important) job, but could not get enough free time to convert and upload all the openoffice and softoffice stuff... I will do that soon.. I think I have softmaker 2010 lying around, and Barry made a softoffice pet recently.. The only license 'issues' with Softoffice programs are that they require email registration before they will work.

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And perhaps gnuGo (I think - over in the MacPup threads I remember it being discussed) - the kids seem really interested in that as a boardgame, better than checkers or chess which surprised me (happily).

Never heard of it, but I'll have a look... Do you have a tar.gz around anywhere?

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Oct 2011, 14:53    Post_subject:  

Thanks for all your detailed replies, sc0ttman -
I had no idea that one of your Arcade Pupplets had dave (pa) mcclamrock's goodies - you seemed to be churning out versions back then and I just didn't get a chance to try any Sad
Actually, trying to steer clear of exposing the kids to first-person shooters - the collection of games jemimah provided in Fluppy is about our speed (and the HSB/HanSamBen pupplets, of course. Can't forget ol' GamesPup either). Might have been a bit of passive avoidance, if any of your Arcades had something Quake-like the kids would dig out Sad Apologies.

Versions floating around on the forum are dio444's:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=15130#15130

GuestToo's pup (via Muggin's 'Quarry' pet):
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=161234#161234

But runtt21 is DEFINITELY the "go-to" guy on the forums (pun intended), and at last count recommends this version:
http://www.gokgs.com/download.jsp

Thanks again for all the earlier clarifications,
Cheers!

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Oct 2011, 19:04    Post_subject: software for Akita  

Here are three pets I made for Akita

Quick Launch is improved by allowing apps to launch as
well.... and I fixed the list of folders,
and translations are improved.

Elinks_text-1.0 is the result of an idea I had.
If a text file was the output of elinks then it would
easier to manipulate the text. So I made this rightclick option.

It turns out to be very useful for me. See yourself Smile

Feel free to rewrite the software and use it in Akita.
Make sure that Quick Launch launches with Ctrl-shift -L.


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quick_launch-akita-1.4.pet
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quick_launch-NLS-1.6.pet
Description  Spanish French and German locals for quick_launch
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elinks_text-1.0.pet
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Oct 2011, 20:23    Post_subject:  

About "GO"

http://senseis.xmp.net/?WhatIsGo


Getting started:( you need java plugin for these)
http://www.telgo.com/
http://playgo.to/index-e.html
http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/guide/index.htm
http://senseis.xmp.net/?HaengMaTutorialForBeginners
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Oct 2011, 22:33    Post_subject:  

Cheers runtt12 Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Oct 2011, 14:24    Post_subject:  

Can anyone compile this? (I have failed, not sure why)

It's a lightweight boulderdash clone, a faithful recreation of original (unlike others)
BoulderDash_1.0-b5.tar.gz
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Oct 2011, 18:49    Post_subject: rewrote quick lauch  

I tried the new quick launch on a 800x600 screen
and it didn't work properly, because of the changes I made.
So I reduced the height of list and some other small changes.
quick_launch-akita-1.5.pet
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Oct 2011, 15:50    Post_subject: Re: rewrote quick lauch  

Thanks for the updates Don, they're going in...

On another note, the following have been added to the Akita repo:

Code:
"cgoban-1.9.14-i486-akita: Gtk1 frontend for Gnugo" off "Fun +gnugo 192K" /
"cgoban_DOC-1.9.14-i486-akita: Gtk1 frontend for Gnugo, docs" off "Fun +gnugo 2K" /
"gnugo-3.8-i486: GNU engine for 'Go' board game" off "Fun 1023K" /
"gnugo_DOC-3.8-i486: GNU engine for 'Go' board game" off "Fun +gnugo 180K" /
"quarry-0.2.0-i486-akita: frontend for Gnugo and other game engines" off "Fun +gnugo 512K" /
"xsok: tiny but great sokoban games" off "Fun 59K" /
"gsoko-0.4.2-akita: nice little sokoban clone" off "Fun 60K" /
"lbreakout-010315-i486: small breakout game" off "Fun 589K" /
"xinvaders-2.1.1-i486: clone of space invaders game" off "Fun 12K" /
"xasteroids_5.0-17_i386: clone of Asteroids game" off "Fun 15K" /
"xrick-021212-akita: great Rick Dangerous clone" off "Fun 1510K" /
"dudusdl_0.1.3-1_i386-akita: like puzzle bobble" off "Fun 76K" /
"pacman_cli-1.2-i486-akita: console version of pacman" off "Fun 11K" /
"pacman_X11-1.0-i386-akita: X11 version of pacman" off "Fun 25K" /
"braincurses-0.5b-i486-akita: console version of mastermind game" off "Fun 9K" /
"openbox-3.5.0-akita: customisable window manager" off "Desktop 178K" /
"tint2-0.11-i686-akita: customisable desktop taskbar and tray" off "Desktop 112K" /
"BubbleSnooker-1.2-akita: like puzzle bobble" off "Fun 2538K" /
"rocksndiamonds-3.2.3-akita: great boulderdash games" off "Fun 2589K" /
"xgalaga-0.8.1-akita: excellent little Galaga style game" off "Fun 42K" /
"xarchon-0.5.0-10.2-akita: the famous board game" off "Fun 249K" /
"xsc-1.5-i486: Asteroids style space shooter" off "Fun 15K" /
"seatris-0.0.14-i486: " off "Fun 12K" /

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Oct 2011, 15:32    Post_subject:  

I made Quick launch a different way
this time.

I made the app list from the .desktop files.
This helps to make it a universal program,
but I still had to make a special one for Akito linux.

Note I put an icon in the folder 'Screenshots'
so that 'zero files' message won't pop up
when launching screenshot browser.
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Oct 2011, 15:37    Post_subject: cire  

Have you ever looked at the cire program?
I don't use it , but it might be better than Osmo
for keeping notes.


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=466598&sid=1a0cec3949be069203837e3510be60b4

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Oct 2011, 15:48    Post_subject:  

I recompiled the latest ROX-Filer that now uses gtkbuilder. If you use glipper-lite and gtkdialog compiled without glade, you can eliminate libglade now.
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Oct 2011, 19:57    Post_subject:  

technosaurus wrote:
I recompiled the latest ROX-Filer that now uses gtkbuilder. If you use glipper-lite and gtkdialog compiled without glade, you can eliminate libglade now.

I've been using your ROX binary pretty much since you posted it, and have had no problems, the drag and drop columns work fine.. Nice Smile

But I have not re-compiled gtkdialog, and know diddly about glipper (no glip* cmds installed!), but maybe you could start a thread about removing glade as a dep in Puppy, what needs doing and so on, so we can make it an optional package for future puppies... show people the way..
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Don, I'll have a look at QuickLaunch 1.6... Which fbreader package do you use? I found an old one, which I lost by mistake, but I will add fbreader into the Akita repo, preferably the smallest, latest, greatest package that works in Akita...

Also, I think I will leave Osmo as is, I like it..
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About the repo, I also added: softmakeroffice-2008-bk, openoffice-2.2.0 and openoffice-3.2..
Plus some small SDL games, like digger, pipepanic.. and some other stuff..

I'll update the htaccess file on the server, so the .pets are 'fancy indexed', so they can be sorted by date, etc...

I will add LibreOffice, the LibreOffice installer as well... Can't test the LibreOffice SHS .pet (150mb) - I don't have enough RAM to uncompress it (apparently).. I'm also very low on disk space, so save files are out of the question...

It may just be a problem with the .pet that I had, so if anyone can show me another LiberOffice package, that I can test, then I'll test that (sfs or pet)..

I'll also try 01mickos installer GUI, but need disk space, damn it.

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Oct 2011, 04:15    Post_subject:  

here is gtkdialog4 (you can try making a symlink to gtkdialog3, but some apps may not work - see barrys blog), the only others are older versions if gnumeric and gtrayicon which wasnt in older puppies at all and ghasher (i think there is a gtkdialog alternative).

btw here was the hacky one liner I used:
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for x in /*in/* /usr/*in/* /usr/local/*in/* ; do [ "`ldd $x |grep glade`" ] && echo $x; done

feel free to modify it to try and find others that you suspect may be unnecessary
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Oct 2011, 05:33    Post_subject:  

technosaurus wrote:
here is gtkdialog4 (you can try making a symlink to gtkdialog3, but some apps may not work - see barrys blog), the only others are older versions if gnumeric and gtrayicon which wasnt in older puppies at all and ghasher (i think there is a gtkdialog alternative).

btw here was the hacky one liner I used:
Code:
for x in /*in/* /usr/*in/* /usr/local/*in/* ; do [ "`ldd $x |grep glade`" ] && echo $x; done

feel free to modify it to try and find others that you suspect may be unnecessary

Nice, thanks for that binary...

But.. Damn! All of the following need Glade, in Akita: gtrayicon, galculator, ghunter, gins, glurp, ghasher, gtkdialog3, gtkdialog4, ssindex, ssconvert.. also maybe firewall-genie??

If I am to remove Glade, I will need a gtkdialog3 that doesn't use it... I cannot really be bothered to go through bkhome.org myself and find all fixed pets... I might tho...

But even then, Barry only updated SOME pets - then he changed to using 'gtkdialog4' where needed, instead.. So removing gtkdialog3 might not work well anyway... I could PM 01micko I guess - cos Slacko has updates many scripts, cos its *only* got gtkdialog4.. but micks really busy at the moment..

I might see what I can do, need to find alternatives for glurp, can remove the rest (ghunter, ghasher, etc).. Will use 'phash' by Barry instead... Not sure what 'gins' is...

Also used your one-liner to find the following are missing libs: ssindex, ssconvert, fluidsynth, foomatic-rip, bareview, gtmoz...
Most will get removed..

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Oct 2011, 07:55    Post_subject:  

Hmmm, it seems a few things like the Font DPI setter (setxftdpi) also use gins, which needs glade...
I wonder what else needs 'gins'....

And how much space does Glade take up? the libs seem small enough...
Why remove Glade? Is it that slow or something?

** EDIT:

I also noticed that rodin.s kindly updated input wizard and other things, but it means I have to re-add the changes I did, in order to make input-wizard (and others) use 'gtkdialog', not 'gtkdialog2'...

I am also trying out having ONLY gtkdialog4 ...
The one attached by techno a few posts earlier..

I have a /usr/sbin/gtkdialog symlink pointing to /usr/sbin/gtkdialog4, and have used the script below to update everything I can find to use 'gtkdialog', not 'gtkdialog2' or 'gtkdialog3'

Save the code below as script_grepper, and chmod +x

Code:
#!/bin/ash
[ ! "$1" ] && echo "Usage: `basename $0` SEARCH [REPLACE]" && exit 1

mv $HOME/script_grepper.log $HOME/script_grepper.log.bak
clear; echo Please wait...

for FILE in /*in/* /usr/*in/* /usr/local/*in/* /usr/local/*/* ; do
   case `file ${FILE}` in
    *Bourne*)
       if [ "`cat ${FILE} | grep ${1}`" != "" ];then # $1 was found
            if [ "$2" != "" ];then # if $2 was given
               FILE2=`cat ${FILE} | sed "s/${1}/${2}/g"` # replace $1 with $2 in $FILE2
               echo "${FILE2}" > ${FILE} # replace $FILE with the updated $FILE2
               echo ${FILE} was updated >> $HOME/script_grepper.log
               echo ${FILE} was updated
            else
               echo ${FILE} >> $HOME/script_grepper.log
               echo ${FILE} # just show the match, don't replace anything
            fi
         fi
      ;;
   *);;
   esac
done

exit 0


Usage: script_grepper SEARCH [REPLACE]

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