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technosaurus · Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4872 Location: Blue Springs, MO

I looked for a decent project management software that didn't have over 50mb worth of dependencies, and couldn't really find anything light weight. I have a pretty basic understanding of the underlying logic, so I started thinking what it would take at a minimum.

At first I thought I would need a database like sqlite, but instead I came up with a way to store the data in a flat file that is extremely quick to parse in a shell. For graphics, we can generate an SVG directly from the shell. Here is the basic idea:

each object (task) gets its own line containing all possible properties as space separated variables:

TASK="start project" DURATION="0" PREDECESSORS="" SUCCESSORS="" ...

Using variables instead of separators will produce large files, but they will compress extremely well (duplicate data normally goes down to 1 byte per occurrence) and can be processed quite easily and much more quickly than parsing separated data and it is easier to maintain, since you don't have to look up positions and can't miscount.

UncleBaldie · Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 42 Location: Staffordshire, UK

Have you tried GanttProject ?

Website:
http://www.ganttproject.biz/

Demo:
http://ganttproject.sourceforge.net/demo/demo.html

Phil

disciple · Posted: Sat 12 Nov 2011, 06:25 Post subject:

Lobster · Posted: Sat 12 Nov 2011, 06:46 Post subject:

Project management has been tried several times.
The only system that actually seems to have been used
is bones. maybe you could develop that a bit?
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewCat=Bones

The problem is not the software, it is getting developers to use it.
It is a cat herding problem:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34704&search_id=1694256696

technosaurus · Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4872 Location: Blue Springs, MO

I did compile Planner (a fork of MrProject) which is reasonably light, but requires some deprecated libraries like libglade and it _says_ it requires libgnomeui, but I symlinked its pkgconfig file to gtk and it built fine without it. I also hacked out all of the gconf stuff just so it would compile and the package is <500kb

It uses half the resources of Rox and 1/4 of geany so overall, if someone were to update the UI to use gtkbuilder instead of libglade, it seems like it would be fairly usable for small/medium projects. I may add a wikipedia entry for it, to prevent someone else going through this whole thought process.

Lobster · Posted: Sat 12 Nov 2011, 08:19 Post subject:

Planner seems to be running OK in Slacko Cool

http://live.gnome.org/Planner/About

You right click to add tasks
Now what project would you like to develop using it?
Maybe a project management system? Cool

Most of our projects have one or two main developers
with testers and code suggestions posted to the forum.

How is this to be an improvement?
It is not that it has no use.
It is how to make use of?

technosaurus · Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4872 Location: Blue Springs, MO

I wanted to use one for optimizing init.

BarryK · Posted: Sat 12 Nov 2011, 18:00 Post subject:

technosaurus,
Congrats on compiling Planner! This has always been a gap in the Puppy suite of applications, and I have often wondered if we would ever find anything -- reasonably small, that is.

I have just downloaded it, will play with it soon.

Yes, I like your thoughts in the first post. In retrospect, I would probably have preferred to have implemented Woof as you suggest. My '|' delimiters are ok, but your suggestion is convenient in conjunction with 'eval'.

disciple · Posted: Sat 12 Nov 2011, 20:35 Post subject:

jim3630 · Joined: 13 Feb 2011 Posts: 792 Location: Northern Nevada

tried in Dpup Exprimo SMP 5.X.10.
console:

# planner
planner: error while loading shared libraries: libxcb-xlib.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#

libxcb-xlib.so.0: looks like a symlink library just to show how little I know. if it is then don't know what to do with it.

missing library or is planner not suited for Dpup?

BarryK · Posted: Sat 12 Nov 2011, 21:49 Post subject:

jim3630 · Joined: 13 Feb 2011 Posts: 792 Location: Northern Nevada

Lobster · Posted: Sat 12 Nov 2011, 23:43 Post subject:

technosaurus · Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4872 Location: Blue Springs, MO

Sorry about the non-portable pet of Planner. I didn't apply my usual compile tricks because it took so much hacking just to get it to compile, that I was almost sure it wouldn't work and I didn't want to wait for the long series of trial & error compiles. I guess I am getting better at guessing what to hack on ... or maybe just luckier. I can build an optimized, portable build and/or post a diff of my hacks if anyone wants them.

meditate · Joined: 15 Mar 2010 Posts: 5

Thanks and Congrats tecnosaurus
Download works fine with Lucid 5.2

Have been trying to demonstrate the power of puppy to my IT head who is suitably impressed with puppy.

This project planner would go a long way to achieve business needs.
Will look forward to improvements.

Keep up the great work.
Very Happy

meditate