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Anybuid i686 builds for Slacko & 3-headed dog? Save energy!
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live

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Dec 2011, 06:05    Post subject:  Anybuid i686 builds for Slacko & 3-headed dog? Save energy!  

i686 processor are already more than 15 years old...

Now at the era of i386, some might remember, that floating point core were not always part of the processor, only from Pentium class (i586) all processor had a floating point arithmetic core.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_point_unit

Having none optimized compiled code, means a waste of energy, more waste to the planet...

How much energy would be save by if all would update for an i686 build?
Probably not much on a PC, but definitely on a laptop's like; but we would all have a faster Puppy.

OK 64bits are another issue, as not everybody has now a days a 64bits processor.

Yours.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Dec 2011, 03:10    Post subject:  

I respectfully disagree. I think it should be kept as i386. In any case, personally, I leave my systems on 24 hours a day 7 days week so at least in my case, no energy would be saved.
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Dec 2011, 09:26    Post subject:  

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I respectfully disagree.

So do I respectfully disagree.
Any PC/notebook that you buy in 2nd hand and would be even 10 years old, has at least an i686 support.

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I leave my systems on 24 hours a day 7 days week so at least in my case, no energy would be saved.

Then if you switch to a 2nd hand laptop around 100EUR, you'll save between 20 to 100 Watts/h * 24 * 365 = 20 to 100 * 8760 Watts/year = 175 to 876 Kw/year ....
Even not counting a screen (a CRT as well ???)...
If you multiply this by say 1000 000 persons, you require more than the largest solar power central in the world can (in 2011) ....
Note that 100 Watts is very very "conservative" if one has to add a screen.

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photovoltaic_power_stations

About PC/notebook power consumtion:
http://www.upenn.edu/computing/provider/docs/hardware/powerusage.html
and
http://www.behardware.com/articles/670-5/pc-s-actual-power-consumption.html
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Dec 2011, 06:36    Post subject:  

live wrote:
Quote:
I respectfully disagree.

So do I respectfully disagree.
Any PC/notebook that you buy in 2nd hand and would be even 10 years old, has at least an i686 support.

Quote:
I leave my systems on 24 hours a day 7 days week so at least in my case, no energy would be saved.

Then if you switch to a 2nd hand laptop around 100EUR, you'll save between 20 to 100 Watts/h * 24 * 365 = 20 to 100 * 8760 Watts/year = 175 to 876 Kw/year ....
Even not counting a screen (a CRT as well ???)...
If you multiply this by say 1000 000 persons, you require more than the largest solar power central in the world can (in 2011) ....
Note that 100 Watts is very very "conservative" if one has to add a screen.

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photovoltaic_power_stations

About PC/notebook power consumtion:
http://www.upenn.edu/computing/provider/docs/hardware/powerusage.html
and
http://www.behardware.com/articles/670-5/pc-s-actual-power-consumption.html


Unfortuantely, I cannot run low end hardware. I don't need top of the line, but I do need hardware capable of pretty high end gaming and 3D grpahics. Yes I game in Puppy just fine. My display is a 24" LCD.

There are better ways to save energy, converting Puppy into i686 is not one of them.
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Dec 2011, 19:45    Post subject:  

I've been thinking about this for a long time: it is also responsible behavior to keep old hardware out of landfills. Many older PC's will run acceptably on Puppy or AntiX or whatever and can still be used instead of being allowed to pollute our groundwater. I have a number of older PC's in my basement which I use in one way or another, and which I'm sure can be of use for some years to come.
Whatever I have that I cannot use I donate to a local charity which refurbishes old hardware with Ubuntu and then ships it off to non-Profits or schools in the third world.
Anything I find which is so fried as to be useless is converted to cyber-art.
I want the latest and greatest, but I must also establish priorities for what I think is important, and in my case, I feel keeping old hardware alive is vital to our survival here on a small planet.
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