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#181 Post by 01micko »

CatDude wrote:Hi
01micko wrote:Compiz is confirmed working :)
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on Sat Dec 17.....01micko wrote:.. I'll get to a full rundown on Monday..
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We need wobbliness ASAP :wink: :wink:


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#182 Post by CatDude »

Hi
01micko wrote: :lol: ... Sorry, yes it's Wednesday.. real life has reared it's head again, well you get that! Wont be far away...
Hey, no worries mate, whenever you can fit it in.
Just didn't want you to forget about it all together :roll:

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#183 Post by 01micko »

Here you go guys :)

Compiz!!!

UPDATE to the compiz-helper pet HERE! 111227

http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/slacko/ ... -0.8.8.sfs 30M

md5sum compiz-slacko-0.8.8.sfs
18207ca5e34802fd0578b846682cfcee compiz-slacko-0.8.8.sfs

It includes everything you need, python, plugins, emerald, ccsm and lxpanel.

You need to get the attached "compiz-helper" pet to

1) test your system is capable

2) setup ~/.xinitrc with some vars and calls to compiz/emerald/lxpanel

3) adjust /etc/profile

Your xorg.conf *should* be just fine.. don't touch it

NOTES:
Please run the attachment! It probes your system for vital tid bits. Needless to say you need your accelerated video driver, works with Mesa on Intel and old Radeon, with nvidia driver on Nvidias and fglrx on new Radeons, i don't have a clue about obscure cards, but if you get a decent glxgears number and the test is passed then you are good.
In the xinitrc an attempt is made to see if you use Hardware or Software acceleration and appropriate variables set.

There is no extra wm included (emerald takes care of it) and there is a panel in the shape of lxpanel, bare bones. You can use xfce4 or trinity-KDE and if you're game KDE4. (More on these options later).

You invoke it from console (outside of X) with xwin dummy

I made it an sfs coz it's big! And it wont make a mess if you decide to toss it out.

It is tested working on my main fast system with nvidia and fglrx, my crappy eee-701-SD (NO bull!) and my r51 thinkpad with old radeon-mobility 32M graphics. that's 4! Hmm.. I wonder how the olpc-XO-1.5 will go? :lol:

Known issues:
-there is a little square in the top left corner, it's a window of rxvt, it's the "dummy" wm
-X doesn't close cleanly on some systems, you may need to hard poweroff, but I haven't had to yet, acpid usually cuts in.
-DO NOT use this on servers or where uptime is critical, says that too on the compiz site


Many thanks to dinky (creator of Ripple) for the rxvt idea, the crunch bang guys for ideas to run W/O a wm, the compiz guys, Forlong, for the compiz-check script (hacked for root access).

Have fun! :P
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#184 Post by jpeps »

Thanks for including the helper. Its showed me that NixiPixil will just have to wait!

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#185 Post by Lobster »

ran the fixer
(nice banana . . .)

OK I got three out of four errors
. . . so I added the Mesa GLX from Slickpet (under drivers)
OK now only have one error out of four

Next ran 'xwin startxfce4' from the prompt after adding xfce
and still looking for some wobble or evidence that Compiz is on the system . . .

. . . am I nearly there? Anyone else get those Compiz effects?
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#186 Post by CatDude »

Hi
Lobster wrote:....Anyone else get those Compiz effects?
Yeah baby :lol:

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Although everything appears to be working,
there is a slight issue with windows occasionally becoming inactive.

Maybe it is something to do with my setup, i don't honestly know,
i'll have to do some more testing.

Anyway, thank you very much Mick for the early Xmas pressie. 8) 8)

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#187 Post by Iguleder »

Good news, my minimalistic packages repository becomes bigger and bigger as you can see here :)

My plan is to upload all the new packages today and tomorrow. These include Conky, Angband, bs (a Battleships clone), a wallpapers pack, stalonetray (a standalone system tray), man-pages (man pages for the Linux and glibc API, a must-have for C development), fbshot (a framebuffer screenshot capture tool), imlib2_grab (a screenshot capturing tool included in imlib2), hsetroot (a powerful wallpaper setting tool) and Aspell. And of course, all the snapshot packages (libav, mplayer and cwm) are automatically updated, too.

I hope I'll be able to produce an automatically-built and self-contained Slacko puplet with all these goodies soon :)

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#188 Post by 01micko »

Lobster wrote:OK I got three out of four errors
. . . so I added the Mesa GLX from Slickpet (under drivers)
OK now only have one error out of four
You need 0 out of 4 errors Lob. Which one failed? Maybe with more info we can fix it?

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CatDude wrote:Although everything appears to be working,
there is a slight issue with windows occasionally becoming inactive
Ahem.. I should have added that to "known issues" :roll:

When you minimise the rxvt dummy window, windows and lxpanel become unresponsive. Looking for a better way... :?

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Iguleder wrote:I hope I'll be able to produce an automatically-built and self-contained Slacko puplet with all these goodies soon :)
Looking forth to that!
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#189 Post by Lobster »

You need 0 out of 4 errors Lob.
OK I am at 0 errors now :)
there was a conflict with the ati_fglrx driver/lib
This may have installed with xfce.
I un-installed it - assuming it would be in the compiz slacko SFS

Now I can run the 'xwin dummy' but the programs all appear in top left and I can not resize or move . . .
Also the compiz animation comes up - so nearly there :)

If I type xwin JWM I get the compiz configuation manager from the menu in desktop but only have one window and no wobble

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#190 Post by Iguleder »

Uploading the rebuilt repository, it's here. The packages are installed in /opt, with the menu entries and icons in the regular locations under /usr, so they appear in the menu.

There are many new applications, they include some nice games, improvements for existing packages, some updates (libav, mplayer2 and rxvt-unicode), xcowsay and a nice tile wallpapers pack.

Have fun! :D
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#191 Post by 01micko »

Lobster wrote:
You need 0 out of 4 errors Lob.
OK I am at 0 errors now :)
there was a conflict with the ati_fglrx driver/lib
This may have installed with xfce.
I un-installed it - assuming it would be in the compiz slacko SFS

Now I can run the 'xwin dummy' but the programs all appear in top left and I can not resize or move . . .
Also the compiz animation comes up - so nearly there :)

If I type xwin JWM I get the compiz configuation manager from the menu in desktop but only have one window and no wobble

Many thanks
Hi Lob,

See the known issues.

I do have to package up a pet for xfce, slacko comliant. You can use the one in the PPM from the Slackware repo, but the menus are not Puppy compliant. You can also try the Trinity sfs instead.

Snap of my thinkpad r51 trinity, compiz

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jpeps, I think my basic instructions in the compiz-helper are at the opposite end of the spectrum compared to one Miss NixiPixil!
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#192 Post by Iguleder »

Umm ... sad news. The packages are horrible.

For some reason the new rxvt-unicode refuses to run applications through "-e". I have no idea why. Also, it seems the Terminus font is not recognized for some reason ... and Conky behaves differently for some unknown reason. I did a first build of my puplet and it's totally messed up.

I'll investigate this chaos tomorrow.
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#193 Post by jpeps »

01micko wrote: jpeps, I think my basic instructions in the compiz-helper are at the opposite end of the spectrum compared to one Miss NixiPixil!

true...I didn't see anything regarding the "Trifectos Power" in compiz-helper. I'm still not sure what it is...maybe a reference to:


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... ng%20power

Other searches yield:
Trifecta is always a great word to know.
So is ninnyhammer. Does it mean:
a fool or simpleton; ninny.
a chattering or flighty, light-headed person.
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#194 Post by Lobster »

Yeah baby
Snap of my thinkpad r51 trinity, compiz
Guys, I like a bit of wobble and spinning special effects but the big thing for me was being able to use Openshot 1.4 in Slacko.

I will get those special effects too soon enough. :)
Slacko is maturing, just as Lucid did.
Sad to hear igus mass compile did not work out . . . maybe it can be solved . . .

Good job! We are not a Debian, Ubuntu or Slackware clone,

We are a feisty little mongrel. :wink:

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#195 Post by Stripe »

Hi all

thanks mick for a great job with the compiz

wobbling and spinning :D :D :D :D :D :D

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#196 Post by 01micko »

I should start another thread for the compiz biz.. I want to build a record of systems that are running it successfully, CPU, graphics card and driver, RAM etc. .. so until I do, can you post those specs. 8)
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#197 Post by 8-bit »

I have a 10 year old Toshiba Satellite Laptop 1.8ghz 512megs ram Slacko loading from USB flash drive.

I just installed Compiz on it and it is very speedy with good graphics and no flashing or studder.
So that is getting down toward the low end of the scale as to computers.
I currently have Seamonkey, AbiWord, and a terminal open with free displaying memory usage as well as the boot desktop with rxvt.

My free on this PC, still speedy, is:

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 497644 480224 17420 0 32044
Swap: 1052376 3096 1049280
Total: 1550020 483320 1066700
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Now that is pretty impressive.
I dare someone with Windows to show me any desktop graphic effects even close to being comparable.

It would come up with some lame graphics rating that would say I would have to upgrade my PC to some unreal specs.

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#198 Post by rhadon »

Well done Mick. 8)

Works fine and fast on my EeePc900.
Even the camera in Skype works. :D

OK, some small issues, but not so important. The basics are working. :wink:

As I mentioned often during the years, if the Super key isn't working, use keyboard model pc-104 or 105 instead of pc-102 (could happen with non english keyboard layouts).

I tried to use simple-ccsm. Installed flawless witout missing dependencies, but fails to run. See attachment, please.

The mesa driver seems to be a little bit problematic for me (also without compiz). :?
Glxgears runs with ~300 fp5s and there seems to be a lot of sand between the gears. A little bit forward, a little bit backward, forward, backward... .

With xorg high in lupu-525 I get ~1500 fp5s.


On my Gericom laptop (see sig.) no go with Compiz. :cry:

Glxgears run with ~620 fp5s (gears turning fine).

With xorg high in lupu-525 I get ~3500 fp5s.

Attached output of compiz-check.

Any idea?

For my Eee it's like a christmas gift. Thank you.

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#199 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
Ran the Compiz Helper pet..
Failed 4 of 5...
And I am running Compiz... :shock:
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#200 Post by 01micko »

Hi Rolf

Well 1 out of 2 isn't too bad.

I want you to try something with the Gericom. Copy your Lupu xorg.conf over Slacko's. Restart X. Try the test again. If the test passes then try compiz.

I will have to see if simple cssm works in my Slackware installation. I couldn't get it to work with (IIRC) similar errors to what you post in Slacko. I didn't bother chasing it too hard.

Good luck, and Merry Christmas.
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