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SOPA and What it Means to Users of this Forum? [IT'S BACK!]
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jpeps

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Dec 2011, 20:53    Post subject:  

SFR wrote:

Or am I naive..?


I think it's far better not to give away your freedom to begin with. It's hard to get it back. We're seeing the importance of YouTube...let's hope corporate interests don't shut it down.
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nooby

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Dec 2011, 04:58    Post subject:  

AFAIK it is already taken but only postponed due to one voice asking
for something that makes it temporarily hanging but within weeks or month it will go through.

It does not look promising at all. All the music we had access to
will be gone. Would even artists be allowed to do covers anymore?
I mean them want money if you sing others copyrighted stuff.

That is how it is regulated in law here in Sweden. If you play in public
then you are supposed to pay to the Iffy ot what name they have.
Then they pay the artists collectively.

Unless you sing only your own copyrighted stuff? Or things that are
70 years old or more. Old Folk music whom nobody owns anymore?

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Dec 2011, 12:55    Post subject:  

This article paints a depressing picture
http://www.quora.com/Does-SOPA-E-PARASITES-bill-in-Congress-have-any-chance-of-passing
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jpeps

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Dec 2011, 16:21    Post subject:  

nubc wrote:
This article paints a depressing picture
http://www.quora.com/Does-SOPA-E-PARASITES-bill-in-Congress-have-any-chance-of-passing


This bill will be as effective as airline security..where many citizens have simply had to stop flying (you have a metal post in your leg, etc.....). Is anyone really stupid enough to think this bill will be effectively employed?
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Dec 2011, 17:43    Post subject: SOPA - News Update 28/12/11  

Hey, but wait...
Latest news is that financial advisers have ascertained that the States Legislature and Tax Department revenue would gain greater advantage for the economy and US citizens, and an easier enforcement regime, if the bill were amended to go after Spammers and Virus-makers and spreaders, whose use of the Internet bandwidth is estimated to be costing the global economy in excess of 35 Trillion dollars, (as well as being responsible for heavy burdens on businesses at all levels, including Government departments)...which would just about stabilise the economy for the coming 2012 Presidential Election, rather than put the Country into a state of division and outrage, at the backlash of current proposals.
Proposals to encourage shutting down both servers and advertising revenue streams derived from Spammer activity, and granting funds to existing Spam and Antivirus firms, are also being hurriedly put together....individuals found to have Spam or Viruses on their PCs would be offered a $10 fix service throughout a vast array of stores, with Micr$oft heading up a free update if the Operating system was damaged during infection of the PC. Apple say they are unaffected, but expect to gain some market share, and Linux users fell about laughing........

Oh!...that was an interesting dream.... Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Dec 2011, 22:26    Post subject:  

An excerpt:

"Labeling their approach a "market-based system" to protect consumers and property owners, the authors of HR 3261 would require advertisers, credit card companies and other payment processors to stop providing ads or payment services to any site that a copyright or trademark holder claimed was "dedicated to the theft of U.S. property." No court would need to be involved unless the operator of the site filed a counter-notice asserting that it didn't fit the bill's definition of a dedicated infringer.

That definition is so broad, it could snare all sorts of cloud-based services, said Markham Erickson, executive director of the NetCoalition tech advocacy group. The problem starts with the bill's focus on Web "sites," which as a technical matter can be a single page within a domain. An eBay listing could be considered a "site," as could a Facebook timeline, a Flickr page or a Dropbox folder.

Making matters worse, the bill broadens the notion of what it means to be "dedicated to the theft of U.S. property." In addition to sites that are primarily designed or marketed for infringing uses, the bill's definition includes sites whose operators "avoid confirming a high probability" that they will be used to infringe or who had at any previous time promoted infringements.

According to Erickson, the only way for ad networks and payment processors to respond to a notification about a supposedly offending site would be to block service to the entire domain. Hence, "you can shut down YouTube, you can shut down internet commerce sites, you can shut down hosting sites" for infringements on just a fraction of their pages, Erickson said."

http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2011/10/technology-a-bipartisan-attempt-to-regulate-the-internet.html
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Dec 2011, 22:54    Post subject:  

SOPA is for one purpose only: for government to gain control of the Internet.

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Maybe we should have a pledge drive so John can move the forum, right here in this thread. I'll pledge US$20 for that purpose.
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Dec 2011, 04:10    Post subject:  

can afford 20USD if it really goes to a Host that is reliable.
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PostPosted: Sat 31 Dec 2011, 13:13    Post subject:  

Hackers respond:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/technology/BusinessComputing-Updates/Hackers-plan-to-launch-satellites-to-block-Internet-censorship/SP-Article1-789502.aspx
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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jan 2012, 18:01    Post subject:  

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Tor anonymity will become illegal with SOPA acts ?

http://thehackernews.com/2011/12/tor-anonymity-will-become-illegal-with.html

I expect AES & GPG will be forbidden next and every newborn will get an implant that reads thoughts and sends them to a local branch of "Ministry of Correct Thinking"! Mad

Greetings!

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jan 2012, 18:11    Post subject:  

http://puppylinux.info/topic/another-reason-sopa-is-a-bad-idea-the-industry-are-going-to-war-to-free-video-streaming

It ain't over till it's over

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jan 2012, 18:15    Post subject:  

SFR wrote:
Quote:
Tor anonymity will become illegal with SOPA acts ?

http://thehackernews.com/2011/12/tor-anonymity-will-become-illegal-with.html

I expect AES & GPG will be forbidden next and every newborn will get an implant that reads thoughts and sends them to a local branch of "Ministry of Correct Thinking"! Mad

Greetings!


..Microsoft opposes it? I thought Microsoft ruled the world. Perhaps they could pull all US government licenses. I'm sure we'd all be safer.
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SFR


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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jan 2012, 19:34    Post subject:  

@jpeps:
Well, it seems that deep in his heart Bill Gates is a camouflaged warez lover. Laughing
http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/22/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-ix-gates-watches-pirated-videos/

Edit: I forgot to add:
Greetings!

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jan 2012, 23:56    Post subject:  

Quote:
Tor anonymity will become illegal with SOPA acts ?


see my comments

http://puppylinux.info/topic/linuxmint-12-ships-with-duckduckgo-search-engine

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jan 2012, 12:45    Post subject: SOPA and What it Means to Users of this Forum?
Subject description: People's Avatars?
 

Wonder if SOPA will apply to people's avatars?
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