Puppy Linux Discussion Forum Forum Index Puppy Linux Discussion Forum
Puppy HOME page : puppylinux.com
"THE" alternative forum : puppylinux.info
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The time now is Thu 23 Oct 2014, 00:50
All times are UTC - 4
 Forum index » Off-Topic Area » Security
SOPA and What it Means to Users of this Forum? [IT'S BACK!]
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
Page 4 of 6 [86 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Next
Author Message
Puppeteer

Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Posts: 35

PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 15:12    Post subject: SOPA revived  

Well it looks like that man, the best, most kind-hearted, generous and honest of men, Mr. Rupert "Faux News" Murdoch, has taken it upon himself to resurrect SOPA.

Good thing the rumour about SOPA being dead was just a false alarm - phew - was actually worried there for a bit. God bless his soul.

Rupert Murdoch, Congress Revive SOPA



(Warning for the clueless: this post contains irony).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
PaulBx1

Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 2308
Location: Wyoming, USA

PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 20:42    Post subject:  

Wow, that didn't take long. If one can depend on Congress for anything, it is that awful legislation will keep being recycled until it passes.

In a way I almost hope SOPA passes. The ruling class has no idea what a shitstorm they are cooking up for themselves.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Flash
Official Dog Handler


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 11120
Location: Arizona USA

PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 22:58    Post subject:  

Here is the enemy.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
kooliepup


Joined: 13 Jan 2012
Posts: 302
Location: Victoria, Australia

PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 23:52    Post subject:  

How true.
MPAA and RIAA are at the pinnacle of corporate greed.

Digressing slightly,
it seems that Google witheld delivery of mail from Gmail accounts for 24 hours.
I just received an email from a Gmail subscriber, that was posted 24 hours ago.

Not a problem for me.

I just wonder sometimes, where it is that Google actually stands.

_________________
There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Sky Aisling


Joined: 27 Jun 2009
Posts: 909
Location: Port Townsend, WA. USA

PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 00:30    Post subject: SOPA and What it Means to Users of this Forum?
Subject description: Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) poised to be voted on this year in the U.S.A.
 

Flash writes:
Quote:
This is the enemy.


Seems like there was something about receiving preferential treatment from Countrywide Financial..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Dodd#Countrywide_Financial_loan_controversy
http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/top-5/2008/06/12/Countrywide-Loan-Scandal/

But, what's the fuss, what was good for Countrywide was good for the country?
Just like SOPA would be?

.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
TheProphet

Joined: 18 Feb 2008
Posts: 174

PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 14:29    Post subject:  

Yeah, one of the iconic pictures of President Obama from the campaign was deemed "intellectual property" and Associated Press actually sued the campaign.

And it was a picture of himself...

speaking of, I noticed that the Intellectual Property claims that would be really broadly enforced have this disturbing rider, i.p. as defined by any U.S. court.

Meaning the courts in Redmond, I suppose, or California courts in Silicon Valley. Where the most cases get filed and, usually, (I shan't use an absolute modifier like "always") are settled in favor of the Big Corporations who own the jurisdictions and apparently (see, I didn't say "obviously", aren't I a clever lad?) paid off courts.

The law, in it's majestic equality, permits rich and poor alike to buy courts, legislators and entire local and global economies.

_________________
He who skydive without parachute, jumps to own conclusion.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
TheProphet

Joined: 18 Feb 2008
Posts: 174

PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 14:55    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
Thanks for starting the thread.
A lot of organizations and individual persons
here in Europe is very upset about it and so am I.

The companies behind the Lobby that proposed it
gets too much power in their hand.

Youtube as we know it today will most likely have to change
a lot.

and even our forum here has to be very vigilant and stop
any link to music or other copyrighted things.

So a villain that want to destroy for us can bomb us
with such links and there are too few moderators to keep up
so it is bad bad bad.


Now, there's an interesting use of words, and there's a really disturbing case from almost a decade ago, raisethefist.org.

And it involved a copyrighted picture published first by the U.S. Army and later by Time magazine, on how to make a pipe bomb.
It was the very first case prosecuted under the USA PATRIOT ACT which is an acronym for a mouthful of Police State non-patriotism. Sherman Austin, the maintainer of the site, was imprisoned for a year then placed on federal parole with no internet access.

The guy who actually posted the really crude instructions, poorly written enough that you'd lose fingers if naught more by making the stupid thing, and unlike young Mr Austin wasn't a Minor... got off scot-free.

To misquote Mr Rogers (public television show) "Can you say 'agent provocateur', 'poseur' and 'singing like a canary'? I knew you could!)

There is an ongoing case in Colorado Springs where a fellow just down the street from me was making M80 super-firecrackers and is charged on several felony counts, he got the instructions off the internet.

The local really fascist news media, who have the improbable name of Freedom Communications Inc, and are enjoying a tax-break subsidy of unbelievable proportions because they're in bankruptcy for the past several years and STILL publishing and broadcasting,

Their three main subsidiaries made a big hoo-haw about this, KOA radio, KOAA tv and the Gazette, because of the many similarities between an M80 and pipe bombs.

They also flagged for removal every YouTube video involving fireworks.

These are also among those who advocate allowing the carry of firearms in schools.

Combining the laws, PIPA, SOPA and the "patriot" act, that's a freakin' huge amount of power to put in the hands of non-elected, non-deputized, officially non-Government corporations.

They hide their contempt for the U.S. constitution and international laws also ratified by Congress like the Hague and Geneva conventions and the U.N. Charter, under the false flag of "nationalism".

Ratified under the constitution means in Article 4 that the Constitution is the law of the land and to be interpreted as such in any court in U.S. Territories and ships at sea.

And under Article 6 any treaties ratified by the Congress have the full force of law, in the U.S., as the Constitution itself.

They kind of swept that out the door with the Bush Doctrine and the "patriot" act.

Nationalism which doesn't recognize the national sovereignty of every other nation, especially the ones with whom your own nation officially disagrees, "rogue states" and "regime change" for instance, that's not nationalism and has an uglier name... "Imperialism".

It's an extreme example, maybe, but within the scope of SOPA and PIPA, for somebody in Outer Mongolia getting a copy of Windows 3.1 off craigslist could also get a visit from the FBI. Probably wouldn't happen to that extent, but the professional lawyers who wrote the bills know damned well that's how much power they're giving.

_________________
He who skydive without parachute, jumps to own conclusion.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Sky Aisling


Joined: 27 Jun 2009
Posts: 909
Location: Port Townsend, WA. USA

PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 15:10    Post subject: SOPA and What it Means to Users of this Forum?
Subject description: SOPA song by LOL Cats
 

SOPA song by LOL Cats

http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2012/01/18/geek-anthem-tells-why-your-favorite-sites-are-black-today/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
TheProphet

Joined: 18 Feb 2008
Posts: 174

PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 15:21    Post subject: Re: SOPA and What it Means to Users of this Forum?
Subject description: People's Avatars?
 

nooby wrote:
Sky Aisling wrote:
Wonder if SOPA will apply to people's avatars?


On some forum here in Sweden they have famous people as Avatars.
If the owner of that picture bark loud I guess the user is in deep trouble.

Ooops no it will be the owner of the forum that is in deep shit.
All Admins have to block any kind of jpg due to this blessing from the copyright friends.

But realistically they start out with copyrighted music on Youtube.
They will also clamp down on all clips from movies? and Commercial TV shows.

I feel unsure of how they will relate to all young artists singing covers.

The song as such is the artists but they sing something that they have
no right to sing. Only the owners of that copyright can give a yes or no.

Unless you pay a very high sum for being allowed to produce such on a
commercial basis like if you are a Radio Station on Internet instead of on air. Then you pay annually and give them lists on what music you played. To just sing others music would most likely not be allowed?

Privately maybe one are allowed to do it if those who listen are friends and it is not accessable by anybody outside the "circle of friends"
so maybe music will get moved to private clubs for sharing music?
if even that will get accepted by the law?


The song "Happy Birthday to you" and the original lyrics "good morning to you" were given over to a Trust Fund, kind of a corporate entity, which renews the copyright every time it comes close to expiring.

The song "Kookaburra" has a similar arrangement and the song "Do you come from the land down under?" was the target of a lawsuit on one flute-riff in the chorus.
Last year...

There's a song "...and the band played 'Waltzing Matilda' " which is a powerful antiwar anthem and puts a different angle on the ANZAC cock-up at Gallipoli. I wonder if since the original Waltzing Matilda was probably in the same children's songbook, if they're contemplating similar actions on that?

If I sing or play any Ira Stamphill hymn like "Mansion over the hilltop" I could get sued, in the off chance that somebody actually paid me for the performance.

_________________
He who skydive without parachute, jumps to own conclusion.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
TheProphet

Joined: 18 Feb 2008
Posts: 174

PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 15:39    Post subject:  

jpeps wrote:
Hi starhawk, I didn't mean to undermine your efforts with my cynicism ...I did what you advise myself and strongly support it. If enough people get fed up, eventually people upstairs get uneasy.

I was thinking, though, that better than shutting down Wikipedia, what might hurt government officials more directly would be all the porno sites going off-line for a day.

BTW/ I didn't think independents registered ??


Registered to vote. I used to work for ACORN for about a week canvassing, learned a few political facts, the only snail-mail congresscritters open is from registered voters or schoolchildren (in the hopes they'll get the next "Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus" opportunity)

In Colorado you're given the choice on the voter registration to be "R" "D" or a write in where you put whatever party to which you belong. I put in A-N-A-R-C-H-I-S-T (it's one of those primitive Capcha scanner things where you have to write each letter in capital block-print inside a box and the letter has to be in black ink and has to be completely within the box and yadda yadda) which simply means I can't vote in either the Democratic or Republican primaries.

But any mail not coming from a registered voter? Round File. File 13. The Dustbin. The Great Exile Of Nonconformist Thought. Some seagull at the landfill will be lining her nest with your letter.

_________________
He who skydive without parachute, jumps to own conclusion.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
linuxbear

Joined: 18 Apr 2009
Posts: 621
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, USA

PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 16:24    Post subject:  

Back when I was still (happily) living in Colorado, I considered registering my party affiliation as the "Boulder anti-lobby Lobby" In the end, I decided to register as an independent as I didn't want to be bothered by electioneering. Now I find myself constantly being bothered with pamphlets and calls as the politicos are trying to capture the independent voters and get us to vote for them........
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
nooby

Joined: 29 Jun 2008
Posts: 10557
Location: SwedenEurope

PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 16:48    Post subject:  

Here is about how SOPA relates to Linux software?

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120116#qa

Quote:
SOPA and open-source software

Wondering-about-blacklists asks: Does SOPA pose a threat to open-source software?


I have not read the text. I am a bad reader of highly technical
legal texts. So have at it. TRy to get if he is right to be that
optimistic that it does not apply.

_________________
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
starhawk

Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 2940
Location: Everybody knows this is nowhere...

PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 19:06    Post subject:  

I live in North Carolina... around here, "independent" means "could be democrat, could be republican, could be anything else, but I'm either not sure enough or too crafty to say which it is." IIRC, I can't vote in the primaries, but I can vote for a straight ticket later, if I want to (President separately of course).

I admit that I only vote once every four years... which makes me a rather poor member of my democracy. Democracy relies on knowledge to work properly (which is at least partially why the USA is so messed up right now). I have a hard time keeping track of who does what, where, and why, so I try to block it all out. Last time I voted, it was for Obama and a straight Democrat ticket for the rest of it.

Le oops.

_________________
Loving X-Slacko 2.1!
Custom Build: HP MOCA-AR + Core2Duo T7200 + 4gb RAM + 256gb SSD
...just needs a pretty case Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Aitch


Joined: 04 Apr 2007
Posts: 6825
Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 19:35    Post subject:  

An alternate to corrupt political slavery

Be an active part of the 99%

http://occupywallst.org/

or get SOPA'd, PIPA'd and any dang thing else they feel like doing.....including paying off the big b[w]anker's debt!

It's a matter of choice

Aitch Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Sky Aisling


Joined: 27 Jun 2009
Posts: 909
Location: Port Townsend, WA. USA

PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 21:22    Post subject: SOPA and What it Means to Users of this Forum?
Subject description: Anonymous attack on justice department?
 

Just In...can anyone verify?
Anonymous #OpMegaUpload Attacks Justice Department, MPAA, RIAA
http://www.fastcompany.com/1809775/anonymous-opmegaupload-attacks-justice-department-mpaa-riaa
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 4 of 6 [86 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » Off-Topic Area » Security
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
[ Time: 0.1029s ][ Queries: 13 (0.0069s) ][ GZIP on ]