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linuxbear · Posted: Tue 31 Jan 2012, 15:50 Post subject:

Bodhi Linux is also working on a Ras-Pi port. Maybe some of might be borrowed, (shared) culminating in a Lucid Puppy for the device?

http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2011/11/bodhi-linux-arm-repository-online.html

don570 · Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Posts: 4989 Location: Ontario

A specific date has been finally mentioned for delivery of
the first batch of computers. Laughing

Feb 20

http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/615#comments

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There is finally a proper description of the broadcom chip

http://dmkenr5gtnd8f.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/BCM2835-ARM-Peripherals.pdf

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eowens2 · Joined: 27 Aug 2008 Posts: 172

It is sounding more and more like the "official" distro for the R-Pi is going to be Fedora, although as far as I know, Debian and Arch will be available as well.

Earlier discussion on this board regarding the porting of Puppy to ARM architecture centered on using an x86 Debian puppy as a model. Is this still the direction that the Puppy devs intend to take?

darkcity · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2545 Location: near here

from my understanding Sickgut has an cut down ARM version Debian ready to rock. just waiting for the Pi to hit the street ; -)

technosaurus · Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4787 Location: Kingwood, TX

if $50 is too much, or you just aren't sure or too impatient, you can use qemu
http://cronicasredux.blogspot.com/2011/09/installing-and-running-debian-armel-on.html

eowens2 · Joined: 27 Aug 2008 Posts: 172

I am excited about the R-Pi, and especially interested in seeing Puppy running on it (and ultimately running on an ARM tablet).

Although I am not a programmer, I would like to help in any way possible in this enterprise.

It would seem that to get Puppy up and going on ARM, a lot of things are going to have to be compiled for the ARM 11 processor.

I did some kernel compiling on OLPC's XO-1 in getting Puppy running on that platform. But with 433 MHz, 256 MB RAM and a single core, a kernel on the XO-1 took HOURS to compile! I finally discovered that on my dual-boot (Windows XP-Ubuntu) desktop (2.2 GHz, dual-core, 4 GB RAM) compile time could be reduced to minutes.

So, the reason I was asking if you guys were still intending to develop a Debian-ARM-Puppy (rather than a Fedora-ARM-Puppy since it now seems that Fedora is to be the "official" R-Pi distro) is so as to get the appropriate distro when I order a R-Pi. I am hoping to set up a Linux-ARM cross-compiler on my desktop under Ubuntu 11.10. I have installed gcc-4.6-arm-linux-gnueabi and have waded into trying to figure out how to set up a cross-compile enviornment (I must say the water depth went from my ankles to my chin very rapidly!). Got any good references on setting this thing up? (I know the ARM-linux-distro binutils, headers libraries have to be made available to the cross-compiler, I just don't know where to put them!).

I realize that once I get the R-Pi I will be able to compile things on it natively, but it would seem that a faster machine could do it, well, faster.

Thanks for the link to Mercer's use of qemu for emulation of R-Pi, but from my perspective the addition of one more layer of software will make the already-steep learning curve more than I can deal with right at the present moment.

I will be happy to help in any way I can, even if it is only as a tester.

(Edited to correct typo)

Lobster · Posted: Sat 11 Feb 2012, 20:28 Post subject:

Here is the info you require. Perhaps join the wiki and keep this page updated . . . Cool

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PARM

Puppy already boots to an x prompt on ARM
Barry is ensuring the toolchain for the t2 system works.
Sickgut will provide a Debian 'Puppy style' ISO
Woof2 will be able to compile across CPU's (including ARM)
Iguleder is working on an alternative porting strategy
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=601949#601949

Puppy was originally boot-strapped from Red Hat (before Fedora existed)

Basic info here on Ubuntu cross compiling
http://balau82.wordpress.com/2010/12/05/using-ubuntu-arm-cross-compiler-for-bare-metal-programming/

technosaurus · Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4787 Location: Kingwood, TX

any word on a minimal kernel .config just for the hardware(& patches? if any) ... I already have a couple cross-compile toolchains ready, but I see no point if I don't know what hardware to enable or don't even have the driver sources

eowens2 · Joined: 27 Aug 2008 Posts: 172

O.K., sounds like all of the bases are well covered !

Has anyone signed up for the "going out for pizza" job yet?

Lobster · Posted: Sun 12 Feb 2012, 00:39 Post subject:

. . . still awaiting the return of pizzasgood . . .
http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/

Lobster · Posted: Tue 21 Feb 2012, 00:11 Post subject:

linuxbear · Posted: Tue 21 Feb 2012, 15:51 Post subject:

http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/02/21/1324246/get-a-glimpse-at-the-raspberry-pi-fedora-remix

don570 · Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Posts: 4989 Location: Ontario

There is British operating system that is interested in the
raspberry pi. It's a spin off of the Acorn computer.

http://www.riscosopen.org/news/articles/2012/02/24/risc-os-open-travel-to-the-south-west

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don570 · Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Posts: 4989 Location: Ontario

The mail order house 'Element14' has put together a manual
quickly including the method to install the image on the
SD card.

http://www.element14.com/community/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadBody/43088-102-1-231662/Raspberry%20Pi.pdf

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Lobster · Posted: Thu 01 Mar 2012, 20:47 Post subject:

Great - concise, useful PDF Don - appreciate that Smile

They provide a link for further great info here
http://elinux.org/RPi_Projects

I have used RiscOS. It ran on the Archimedes
In its day a cutting edge, fast GUI OS costing £699
One of the programs it had was a prototype of a structured drawing
package that would eventually evolve into xaralx

In fact (being a prototype geek)
I became a volunteer for a program at ITV that never aired,
just so I could be trained to use one of their 20 (donated by Acorn) Archimedes,
which wished to publicise the computer.
I nearly bought one but went for the more widely used Intel set up instead

The Rpi is of course more powerful as is the average smartphone

I will no doubt have a look at RiscOS - recently looked at an AmigaOS
but the problem with these redundant and superseded OS is software availability.
Linux software is abundant, evolving and has major players such as
Google and IBM adopting, promoting and developing.

Have pdf - still awaiting news on Rpi ordering Smile