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Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 9908 Location: Arizona USA
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 00:18 Post_subject:
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http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/adobe-abandons-linux/10418?tag=nl.e550
| Quote: | | Summary: Adobe has announced its future plans for Flash and AIR and Linux isn’t part of them. Flash will still, however, be available to Linux desktop users who use Google’s Chrome Web browser. |
Doesn't Google own YouTube? And isn't YouTube based on Flash?
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Makoto

Joined: 03 Sep 2009 Posts: 1407 Location: Out wandering... maybe.
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 00:28 Post_subject:
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This is what I read about it on BetaNews:
| Quote: | | On the platform side, Adobe will officially only continue development on Mac and Windows platforms. Linux development is being left to Google, whose Pepper plug in API will now control Flash on the platform. The company plans to support its own in-house efforts for another five years. |
Source: Adobe puts Flash out of our misery
So, that does mean it'll only be available for Chrome? I can see a number of people crying foul over that. Then again, I've said for quite a while that someone else should develop a third-party Flash implementation for Linux, as Macromedia/Adobe seemed not to care about the existing crappy Flash plugin for Linux as it was. Maybe that would be an incentive for someone to try.
Aren't they trying to steer YouTube to HTML5, though?
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Barkin

Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Posts: 472
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 01:51 Post_subject:
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| Makoto wrote: | | ... I've said for quite a while that someone else should develop a third-party Flash implementation for Linux |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnash
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aarf
Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 3620 Location: around the bend
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 02:48 Post_subject:
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Micko reckons his latest slacko will play .swf without flashplayer. Adobe saw the writing on the wall and left.
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Makoto

Joined: 03 Sep 2009 Posts: 1407 Location: Out wandering... maybe.
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 05:07 Post_subject:
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Okay, how does that compare to Adobe's Linux version of Flash at the moment, though? (Not that I have a high opinion of Adobe's Flash for Linux at the moment, of course.)
At least those "kill the fly" ads seem to have dwindled, along with those ads that yell, "Congratulations! You've won!" and only seem to appear at two-thirty in the morning, when you're not expecting anything to suddenly blare from your speakers...
Flash games, on the other hand... well, I still had some of those be unexpectedly loud really late at night. But I'd much rather hear those, than the ads. Before my family kills me for making too much noise, that is.
Ah, rambling nostalgia.
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9477 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 05:45 Post_subject:
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I remember vaguely that youtube wrote somewhere they try to have a lot
of their files using a new format not adobe flash so that could be html5 then?
What else could it be.
How can one test or find such file to see if Puppy and the browser can
take it.
Iron browser try to be a Chrome without the google spy things but that makes
Iron way behind the updates? And some say it has a German spy in it instead
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9477 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 05:47 Post_subject:
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| aarf wrote: | | Micko reckons his latest slacko will play .swf without flashplayer. Adobe saw the writing on the wall and left. |
Latest? hm wonder which one would that be? I take a look.
And report back.
Could it be this one? Slacko 5.3.3-RC2 (5.3.2.4)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=75209
Edit Thanks Terry that is good to know.
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Terryphi

Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 700 Location: West Wales, Britain.
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 06:22 Post_subject:
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There is no immediate urgent problem.
Quote from h-online.com:
Adobe will discontinue the availability of direct downloads of the Flash Player for Linux, but says it will continue to provide security updates for the non-Pepper versions of Flash Player 11.2 for Linux for five years after its release.
Flash Player 11.2 for Linux has not yet been released.
Hopefully in five years time everyone will have moved to HTML5 for video.
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Makoto

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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 07:07 Post_subject:
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...Of course there's an immediate problem. The Linux version of Flash is terrible.
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Terryphi

Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 700 Location: West Wales, Britain.
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 07:27 Post_subject:
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| Makoto wrote: | ...Of course there's an immediate problem. The Linux version of Flash is terrible.  |
Well, yes. - but it is not a new problem. Hopefully, Adobe's decision will speed the move to HTML5.
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9477 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 07:53 Post_subject:
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so how does one find such html5 music video files to test? if
one can play them or not?
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Geoffrey

Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 935 Location: Queensland Australia ɹǝpu∩uʍop
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 10:39 Post_subject:
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| nooby wrote: | so how does one find such html5 music video files to test? if
one can play them or not? |
Firefox 10.0.2 works with ogv and webm files http://www.808.dk/?code-html-5-video
This shows how to write a html5 player, I tried this and it works finehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZVFUQOCQWI
Sample .webm video http://www.808.dk/pics/video/gizmo.webm
Sample .ogv video http://www.tinkernut.com/demos/html5/video.html
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ndujoe1
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 620
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 11:31 Post_subject:
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I guess this means that Linux users will have to hitch a ride with browsers that support the html5 code.
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darkcity

Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2218 Location: near here
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 12:23 Post_subject:
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| Makoto wrote: |
Okay, how does that compare to Adobe's Linux version of Flash at the moment, though? (Not that I have a high opinion of Adobe's Flash for Linux at the moment, of course.)
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some people have been complaining about Gnash on the R Pi fourms-
http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/general-discussion/flash?
Flash compatibility
from the wiki-
| Quote: | Currently, Gnash can play SWF files up to version 7, and 80% of ActionScript 2.0[16].
The goal of the Gnash developers is to be as compatible as possible with the proprietary player (including behavior on bad ActionScript code). However, Gnash offers some special features not available in the Adobe player, such as the possibility to extend the ActionScript classes via shared libraries: sample extensions include MySQL support, file system access and more. For security reasons the extension mechanism must be compiled-in explicitly and enabled via configuration files. |
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jpeps
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 2449
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 14:59 Post_subject:
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This is good news! Restrict all the bloated/invasive crap to windows computers.
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