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antiloquax


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PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb 2012, 08:58    Post subject:  

Thanks Lobster, I will download Saluki!
My sentimental attachment to JWM and ROX will have to be put to one side.
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb 2012, 09:36    Post subject:  

And if Saluki still have Midori you have to get used to that one too.

Apart from that I trust it would be a win-win thing to cooperate with Jemimah.
She is good at coding. I don't agree with her preference for double click
instead of single click and the choice of browser but she is the dev and
I am just a happy user to have this many devs giving us puppy varieties
It is a blessing indeed. So many opportunities to find something to like.

Take a look at Iguleder and his roar-ng and Subilto OS too.
He is inventive trying to start anew with same approach as Barry.
To do his own thing. Such is encouraging. Sorry my crazy English

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb 2012, 09:52    Post subject:  

Thanks Nooby,
Now I have had a chance to try Saluki, I think it would be better to join in with that project! Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb 2012, 10:00    Post subject:  

Hi

Nice - win,win - we all win - and benefit'

Saluki works extremely well on my 10yr old Acer laptop.

Very best regards - Ray

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb 2012, 12:12    Post subject:  

Quote:
My sentimental attachment to JWM and ROX will have to be put to one side.


you can download and use rox from the package manager (in the control centre) - I do

you can press ctrl + alt + backspace
and type xwin jwm
. . . and use JWM (Jemimah does not recommend it but I prefer to use JWM for now . . . )

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb 2012, 12:53    Post subject:  

Is it LXDE or Xfce that Jemimah chose for Saluki. My poor memory.
Linux Torvalds of Linux fame do like Xfce best Smile

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb 2012, 13:06    Post subject:  

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Is it LXDE or Xfce


Highly customizable and integrated, extensive XFCE desktop environment
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Saluki

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb 2012, 13:24    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
Jemimah, what is it in Saluki that would make it fail to work on their older
computers then? If the school has been given Pentium III as a gift for
the kids?


Saluki will probably run on a p3 - hopefully with at least 512MB ram. A full install would help with ram usage and speed up the boot time.
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb 2012, 13:30    Post subject:  

antiloquax wrote:

I'm afraid I don't quite know what you mean about "dependency resolution" - is this about making sure things will work on other versions?


Here is an example. I just built Gourmet, a recipe manager written in python. But it won't run without the following packages installed: Python, PIL,reportlab,SQLAlchemy. If you have a working PPM you can just specify those in the pet.specs file so when a user installs it, the dependencies are also downloaded and installed.

If you use Racy, you will have to figure out how to set up your own repo. This is not as easy as it should be. It's taken me a month or so to get it going and I'm still fixing bugs.
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb 2012, 13:54    Post subject:  

jemimah wrote:


Here is an example. I just built Gourmet, a recipe manager written in python. But it won't run without the following packages installed: Python, PIL,reportlab,SQLAlchemy. If you have a working PPM you can just specify those in the pet.specs file so when a user installs it, the dependencies are also downloaded and installed.



Thanks jemimah, that makes sense. I did try to help Dromeno (on this forum) to get a working version of Gourmet and failed miserably!

And I am writing this on my Pentium3 (512mb RAM) running Saluki, by the way!

Am I right in thinking that there isn't a Python3 package for Saluki (I looked in PPM). If that's so, I might have a go at putting together a pet for Python 3.1.4 as my first compile on Saluki.

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb 2012, 14:03    Post subject:  

Correct. I've done all my python work with 2.7.
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb 2012, 14:12    Post subject:  

jemimah wrote:
Correct. I've done all my python work with 2.7.


Okay, I'll have a go. Very Happy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Feb 2012, 07:51    Post subject:  

UPDATE:

I am working on the next version of this puplet. It will be based on Saluki.

Many thanks to Jemimah for helping me to get the IDLE working for Python 2.7.

The new version will include Python 2.7 and 3.1, both with Pygame. I am doing this because I know plenty of people have not made the shift to Python 3.

This time I will not bundle the devx in with the main .sfs, which should result in a smaller .iso for those who don't need to compile right away.

There will be more Python tutorials available for offline study.

I'm thinking that there may be quite a few people who didn't get a RPi from the first batch who will find this CD useful. As before the idea is that you can just boot from the CD and start coding, with no prior knowledge of Linux or Python.

I'll have to rename it - it can't be RacyPy - SalukiPy sounds nice too!

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Feb 2012, 09:27    Post subject:  

Here's a screenshot of what "SalukiPy" will look like.
It has the lovely 'puptie' image as wallpaper.
You can see here that Pythons 2.7 and 3.1.4 are running and both have imported pygame without complaint.

I'm pleased! Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed 29 Feb 2012, 14:00    Post subject:  

Looks good, Antiloquax.

But I would hold off on Salukipy until Saluki comes out of beta. A new kernel is planned for Saluki, from what I've read in the thread. But I guess there's no harm on beta versions of Salukipy.
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