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darkstrike

Hi folks!

Noticed something the other day when I installed Lucid 5.2.8 on my "newer" tinker box - it's in a network with 3 desktops and a netbook. 2 of those desktops and the netbook are running Windows XP Professional and I can access their shared folders just fine, however, Pnethood can't see the Shared Folder on my Windows 7 machine even though I can access it fine from any of the other computers.

Any thoughts as to why Puppy can't access it? I should clarify - by access I don't mean that Pnethood sees it and won't connect, rather I mean it doesn't see it at all.

Any ideas are appreciated! Smile

It's not a dealbreaker, but I often find myself copying things from one computer to another and I could use flash drives or CDs/DVDs, yes, but direct copying is so much faster.

Cheers!

darkcity · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2215 Location: near here

see guide for setting up here-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=585516#585516

darkstrike · Posted: Wed 29 Feb 2012, 12:49 Post subject:

Thanks darkcity, I'll give it a try when I get home this evening! I thought SAMBA was installed and set up by default, or is that just an older version of SAMBA?

darkcity · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2215 Location: near here

Not to my knowledge, i think it is intended for future puppies

more links here-
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/samba

Cool

darkstrike · Posted: Wed 29 Feb 2012, 12:58 Post subject:

Good to know! I'm surprised that Puppy could even access the WinXP shares then without Samba being installed! Razz

I'll post back here tonight when I see if it works Smile

gcmartin · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 2629 Location: Earth

darkstrike · Posted: Wed 29 Feb 2012, 13:29 Post subject:

I will let you know gcmartin! My Win7 machine is my main, personal desktop, and the WinXP netbook is my personal laptop, but I was thinking of having a computer hooked up to the TV in our recroom (i.e. this not terribly powerful stats-wise Puppy machine for basic stuff like surfing the net, watching the occasional YouTube vid, listening to music, etc.)

It will be great if I can get SAMBA working fine with the network, and, with as with all of us, a great feeling to keep some old "outdated" hardware working with purpose for awhile longer! Very Happy

darkstrike · Posted: Wed 29 Feb 2012, 19:30 Post subject:

Hi folks!

Sorry for the double-post, but just leaving a message to say that I now have SAMBA working and can access my shares no problem! Smile

Thanks awfully for all the help!

darkcity · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2215 Location: near here

Good stuff!

I have a question now - Pnethood should let you access Window shares - how does it do this, via a cut down part of Samba, or some other method?

; -)

darkstrike · Posted: Thu 01 Mar 2012, 08:13 Post subject:

I couldn't tell you darkcity, but I was wondering that as well considering I COULD access SOME shares with Pnethood before I installed SAMBA! Smile

gcmartin · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 2629 Location: Earth

darkstrike · Posted: Thu 22 Mar 2012, 15:18 Post subject:

Hi GCMartin - terribly sorry for the massively late reply, never got an e-mail telling me anybody else had replied! As to what distro I was using, I am running Lucid 5.28 - installed it on an old machine I keep around for tinkering with (1.6ghz AMD Athlon XP 1800+, 512mbs RAM, 64mb Nvidia Quadro2 Pro video card, 10gb HDD)

I've got the old machine connected to a network with 3 other desktops and 2 netbooks - 2 of which are running WinXP Professional (the desktops), 2 of which are running WinXP Home (the netbooks) and one desktop running Windows7 Ultimate and a crap-ton of Linux VMs in VirtualBox (my personal desktop).....that's why I was wondering about getting SAMBA shares working correctly. Sometimes I do my work on the older Puppy Linux machine as sometimes it's just nice to have a change, haha! However, most of my work files are on my Win7 desktop, and a lot of music is shared between all of the computers, so...

Smile

rcrsn51 · nbtscan 192.168.2.0/24

Don't confuse Puppy Samba server software with the Pnethood Samba client software - they are two different things.

You do not need to install a Samba server on Puppy. You need to figure out why Pnethood cannot detect your Win7 machine when it is OK with XP machines.

XP uses "simple network sharing" by default. So anyone on the network can access a share without authentication. That makes it easy for Pnethood to locate and open XP shares.

But the default model for Win7 is to require authentication. In my experience, Win7 won't even advertise its shares to a remote user until it receives a valid username-password.

When you run Pnethood, does it at least open a tab for your Win7 machine?

Run this command, using the appropriate IP values for your network. Does it find the Win7 machine?

darkstrike · Posted: Thu 22 Mar 2012, 15:38 Post subject:

Well, all is well and working with Samba now installed, but I was still a bit surprised that Pnethood could pick up the XP shares and not the Win7 share.

Thanks for clarifying that a bit more RCRSN51! I had always thought the two were interelated somehow and that Puppy came with some sort of cut-back version of Samba by default rather than having to install the large package. I can't remember if it opens a tab for my Win7 machine in Pnethood without the large samba package installed or not, but I will check when I get home from work (might have to use a LiveCD to check though as now that Samba is installed, it DOES show a tab for sure).

I'll run that command as well - just to clarify, I enter "nbtscan (Win7 machine's IP here)/24" (without the quotes of course!)?

rcrsn51 · Posted: Thu 22 Mar 2012, 15:51 Post subject:

All Puppies come with the Samba client software. But new versions are sometimes included in Samba server packages. Since installing full Samba made your Win7 shares visible, I suspect that it was the new client software that did the trick.