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#21 Post by Lobster »

I even paid for it, but delivery is estimated about a month away.
A month is not so long. 8)

I could not get to the order stage and I wonder if it is because I am using
ghostery and no redirect plugin for Seamonkey
- not something I normally do . . . ah well . . .

Even so we were promised free development boards
I am loath to chase the Rpi foundation up as they are no doubt
exhausted. I was trying to follow on twitter and it was trending
and information overload ensued . . .

I'll let the fruit settle and try again to get what is
undoubtedly the must have geekery for the confirmed penguin.

Congratulations to everyone who got an order. :D
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#22 Post by JohnMurga »

BarryK wrote:I ordered here:

http://au.element14.com/jsp/search/prod ... KU=2081185

I even paid for it, but delivery is estimated about a month away. This is for Australia, price including delivery is AU$41.80.

If you are in New Zealand, just change "au" to "nz".
I ordered from element14 too, I thought I was within the first hour (and I also paid) ...
The 6AM start was easy as I am currently in Asia.

For whatever reason they sent me the confirmation and estimated date this morning ...
And it is stated as the end of April or later.

I remember when we were working to a November time frame.
I ported murgaLua over in hours, and was all ready to go.

I really hope that this is the success that I believe that it deserves to be ...

But at the personal level I am disappointed in how the fans expectations have been handled, and how the launch was made ...
Many of us faithful followers didn't have a chance.

Anyway, by the time it arrives I will have forgotten all about it, so it'll be a nice surprise :-)

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#23 Post by James C »

I made it onto the waiting list......

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#24 Post by tlchost »

It appears that there is no vga output and at present no adapter...so without a device that is supported, I don't see how I can use board.

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#25 Post by JohnMurga »

tlchost wrote:It appears that there is no vga output and at present no adapter...so without a device that is supported, I don't see how I can use board.
You don't have a TV somewhere ?

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#26 Post by tlchost »

JohnMurga wrote: You don't have a TV somewhere ?
Yea....it has one input - a coax connector for cable style...

Also has jacks fror VCR/DVD Player.

Are the jacks the RCA output mentioned?

I have not watched TV in at least 10 years...so mine might have button hooks and I would not know if they were left or right handed threads.

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#27 Post by Lobster »

Many of us faithful followers didn't have a chance.
Tee hee. Were the early clickers left for howling? Too cruel :wink:
Raspberry Pi is a small foundation - not a billion dollar corp.
They have done well to generate such astonishing interest.
Was on the BBC 6PM news yesterday.

What Rpi have done, very kindly is allowed everyone worldwide
to have access to the hardware. In fact when someone said,
'what if someone steals and clones your idea?' Eben Uptons response was,
'Great!'

What may have happened is servers in other parts of the world
did not go down and so people were able to move beyond 'Express an interest'
- which I have now done twice for each supplier.

Good to hear from John - what adventures he is having travelling the world 8)
Having murgaLua on PARM would be great. The language was in several versions
of Puppy. Yep we have supported tcl (pronounced tickle) PuppyBasic
(there really is such a language) and all manner of BASIC's
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyBasic

We have to have an 'ARM development environment' and Barryk has an Rpi on order
(as well as two other ARM boards).
Others will be taunting us when their boards arrive :twisted:
and they get to run any ISO's Puppy produces

========
and now an interlude for some Buddha Dharma
'desire is the source of all suffering.' [by not anon. (Not recently.)]
The Buddha said that
and also said:
Thousands of candles can be lit from a single candle,
and the life of the candle will not be shortened.
Happiness never decreases by being shared.
We all feel - desire, anger, sorrow etc
It is what we do with it . . .
Desire and excitement for Rpi arises
and (we Buddhists) let it go :)
We don't hang on to it and let it dominate our own
well being . . .

When I get a Pi, I will put YAP on it
and worship hounds :roll:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/BuddhistYAP
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Guys, this year we go ARM
Next year we will need tablets (me more than most)
and maybe the year after we will be ready for Puppy Pandroid Phone
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#28 Post by JohnMurga »

tlchost wrote:
JohnMurga wrote: You don't have a TV somewhere ?
Yea....it has one input - a coax connector for cable style...

Also has jacks fror VCR/DVD Player.

Are the jacks the RCA output mentioned?

I have not watched TV in at least 10 years...so mine might have button hooks and I would not know if they were left or right handed threads.
The PI has HDMI for newer TVs (high res, etc).

For older TVs ... The video jacks are going to be one of the following :

What the PI has : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_video
European TVs : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCART
Other TVs : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Video

Adapters from composite/RCA to SCART or S-VIDEO are a couple of bucks.

Part of the point for me is that you should be able to plug it into pretty much any TV, which means that many families may be able to use it.

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#29 Post by Sylvander »

Yes, but what can I do with it if I buy one?

Can it run Puppy?
Can I use it with a TV card?
An external USB HDD or Flash Drive?
How many USB sockets does it have?
I'd like to use my "smart" 32-inch Sony TV as a monitor [HDMI connected] with a new/small PC, and record, rewind, fast-forward TV programs.

Is it too advanced for me?

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#30 Post by JohnMurga »

Sylvander wrote:Yes, but what can I do with it if I buy one?

Can it run Puppy?
By the time you get it, you should be able to yes, right now it would be Fedora or Debian.
Can I use it with a TV card?
You can use it with a TV card (to see the output on your PC)
But if you mean use a TV card with it, to record/view TV ...
That may be possible (something that I don't think has been tried yet).
Recording may be asking too much (realtime video compression).

An external USB HDD or Flash Drive?
Yes, but not to boot from I believe ...
Also LAN and USB traffic go together on this board, so one will slow the other down.
Not an issue for you I guess, as you did not mention LAN

How many USB sockets does it have?
Two.
I'd like to use my "smart" 32-inch Sony TV as a monitor [HDMI connected] with a new/small PC, and record, rewind, fast-forward TV programs.
Might be asking a bit much of the PI at this stage

Is it too advanced for me?
I don't know, is it ? :-)

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#31 Post by antiloquax »

Sylvander wrote:Yes, but what can I do with it if I buy one?
The RPi Foundation hope it will have the same sort of effect as the BBC micro did back in the day. It will get kids into programming.

You can start by learning Python!
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#32 Post by Sylvander »

Thanks for the info folks... :D

I'll keep an eye on developments. 8)

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#33 Post by tlchost »

JohnMurga wrote: What the PI has : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_video
Thanks...I have the yellow and two other plugs, which I believe are audio.

Guess I'll get on the waiting list and watch the progress here.

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#34 Post by JohnMurga »

tlchost wrote:
JohnMurga wrote: What the PI has : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_video
Thanks...I have the yellow and two other plugs, which I believe are audio.

Guess I'll get on the waiting list and watch the progress here.
Yup, you can get a headphone jack to twin RCA cable to connect those up too, should also be a couple of bucks.

Possible issues on old TV may be around PAL/NTSC ...
So the picture might come up in black and white when you boot ...
Until you fix it :-)

Anyway, here is the reason why despite our best efforts I suspect most of use won't see our PIs for a while :
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/29 ... ypi_mania/

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#35 Post by Lobster »

The Rpi team seem to be recovering from last nights reported pub visit
Here are the FAQS
Their website is still not properly up and they are launching a new one 8)
http://elinux.org/R-Pi_FAQ

One thing you might like is the Gert board for controlling stuff from the Pi board
Python should be in most series 5 devx

Python is a good language because it was named after Monty Python
Here for no real reason is one of the Pythons inspiration
(Spike Milligan) dressed as a viking blowing raspberries . . .
http://youtu.be/BOTZJgc39NA
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#36 Post by stu90 »

I haven't ordered yet going to hold out for some of the hype to die down first then hopefully i wont be left waiting for ages on a pre order.

So what do folks plan to do with them?
I read there will be a camera attachment and another circuit board type attachment that can control things like motors and sensors.

Im thinking connected to HDTV with a nice weather conky and news ticker - internet radio and maybe torrent downloader.

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#37 Post by aarf »

Lobster wrote:
========
and now an interlude for some Buddha Dharma
'desire is the source of all suffering.' [by not anon. (Not recently.)]
The Buddha said that
and also said:
Thousands of candles can be lit from a single candle,
and the life of the candle will not be shortened.
Happiness never decreases by being shared.
We all feel - desire, anger, sorrow etc
It is what we do with it . . .
Desire and excitement for Rpi arises
and (we Buddhists) let it go :)
We don't hang on to it and let it dominate our own
well being . . .

When I get a Pi, I will put YAP on it
and worship hounds :roll:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/BuddhistYAP
==========
I am pleased that you broached the subject of the burning. The next time you are chatting with the dali lama whisper quite firmly in his ear 'The burning, it has got to stop.'( attached)

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update about ordering

#38 Post by raffy »

Update about the distributors: Farnell asks for a trade account before your order can be processed, while RS-Online just takes your information for future sales. I note that Farnell's price (in Pesos) has increased from P1,860 to P2,000 overnight.

Addition: The launch was made quite dramatic, with a 0600H-29Feb2012 "set your alarms" announcement. And when it happened, ordering was directed to two new partner-distributors. Because of this, the enthusiasts' past labors in registering at raspberrypi.com for future purchase was made useless. It made nice headlines, though, like "RPI Sells Out in A Stampede, etc etc." So sad for a beautiful open-source device with well-meaning enthusiasts.
Puppy user since Oct 2004. Want FreeOffice? [url=http://puppylinux.info/topic/freeoffice-2012-sfs]Get the sfs (English only)[/url].

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#39 Post by scsijon »

talk on irc this morning of a daughter-board already planned with sata and a couple of extra mem card 'slots'

it's already got hdmi so using a hdmi to vga convertor should work ok.

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#40 Post by JohnMurga »

scsijon wrote:talk on irc this morning of a daughter-board already planned with sata and a couple of extra mem card 'slots'

it's already got hdmi so using a hdmi to vga convertor should work ok.
Don't think it is so easy.

You may be able to get a cable with the connectors, but this is only for special hardware that can handle the different signals.

HDMI is digital and VGA/RCA are analog ...

DVI was worse, because there was DVI-A and regular DVI (so DVI->HDMI worked, but DVI-A->HDMI didn't).

Last time I checked HDMI to VGA adapters cost more than a PI :-)

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