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peebee

Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 3257 Location: Worcestershire, UK
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Posted: Fri 02 Mar 2012, 16:49 Post subject:
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01micko wrote: | peebee, I can create a save file in ntfs that is just fine , just not using pupdialog! . If you drop to a prompt and shutdown/reboot the old way then all's well. I have sent a report to Barry and I captured a log of sorts which doesn't seem to mean a lot but I'll publish it anyway. |
Hi Mick
I think the problem with ntfs formatted drives also seems to affect loading the kernel source sfs for compiling - I seem to have broken links in /lib/modules/3.1.10slacko to items on your partition sda8 for build and src
Cheers
peebee
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 10548 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 01:57 Post subject:
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the problem with ntfs formatted drives
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I agree that NTFS is a very bad thing.
But if one want to retain warranty and
Ms Win7 whatever compatibility due to
needing it for smartphones and other
such gadgets that only have Win drivers.
SonyEricson phones needs it.
We have to talk to politicians to force Ms to
give us a good repair/defrag etc for NTFS
so NTFS can be a true Linux formatting tool.
some 90% of all sold desktops and laptops
have Ms Win already installed. It is not realistic
to force every user to learn how to resize and
to format partions. I ahve used computers since
them got affordable and I have used Linux since
2006 and I have no idea how one do resize and formatting.
And I would prefer to never learn it. Too dangerous stuff.
So yes it is a sad situation but that is reality. 90% is real.
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not an ideal solution though
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CatDude

Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 1570 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 04:03 Post subject:
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Hello peebee
peebee wrote: | ..I think the problem with ntfs formatted drives also seems to affect loading the kernel source sfs for compiling - I seem to have broken links in /lib/modules/3.1.10slacko to items on your partition sda8 for build and src
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Already been reported here mate
i don't think it has anything to do with how the drive is formatted (mine was ext3), it's simply due to 'dodgy sources' as mick put it.
CatDude
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a few backgrounds.
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Lobster
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Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 15238 Location: Paradox Realm
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Posted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 22:21 Post subject:
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Simple futwerk
Me like.
Mick I am trying to be everywhere at once
using quantum entanglement.
Sadly the Chronolgy Protection Agency
is only allowing me to use only one Puppy OS at a time.
I had a go with latest Racy this afternoon (local time),
so not giving Slacko new kernel the attention it deserves.
My plan is some sort of switch mechanism
a batch of spup and other powered Raspberry Pi's from the future
and a big pile of sardines . . .
Anyone willing to wiki
apply here:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/SlackoNews
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DaveS

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3726 Location: UK
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Oh go on Mick... fix the spelling on the Suspend button; /etc/acpi/actions/powerbtn.sh, line 71
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 8670 Location: qld
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Posted: Mon 05 Mar 2012, 08:22 Post subject:
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Ha! Thanks Dave
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CatDude and peebee,
This is very weird with the kernel source, it could even be a unionfs bug, take a look at the respective screenies from the running system and the initrd read only files..
Only other solution is for me to switch the call in my build script by cd-ing into /lib/modules/3.1.10-slacko-4gU and climbing up the tree then drilling back down.. I think I have it right though. I didn't have an issue with the PAE sources, same script..
Code: | ln -s /usr/src/linux kernel_sources-$kernel_major_version-$package_name_suffix/lib/modules/${kernel_major_version}$custom_suffix/build
ln -s /usr/src/linux kernel_sources-$kernel_major_version-$package_name_suffix/lib/modules/${kernel_major_version}$custom_suffix/source |
peebee, it's important that kernel compiles have unique names or else drivers likely wont work. On some occasions they do, but I'm not prepared to risk that.
I'm also having probs with firefox in the unionfs.. seems ok in the aufs kernel
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DaveS

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3726 Location: UK
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Just a little bit of perspective from me... this morning I downloaded Linux Mint 12. Download took three hours. Then I installed it. Installation took a further three hours due to endless downloads and updating (so not the latest version on the mirror then!). After all that, Broadcom wireless did not work. Usual fix of downloading restricted drivers did not fix it. Eventually after ages of Google, found a really complicated fix that worked. This all took a couple more hours.
Finally I had a working system. Which ran like treacle. OK, so I am sure Mint is a brilliant op system, but I am bu**ered if I am prepared to buy a new PC to run it.
Makes me realise how grateful I am to all the guys behind Puppy.
The good news is, it took Puppy running from a USB stick about 15 seconds to delete it, so not ALL bad
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jim3630

Joined: 13 Feb 2011 Posts: 792 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Mon 05 Mar 2012, 15:26 Post subject:
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DaveS FYI LMDE comes with the restricted drivers. able to make wifi connection oob with my wl driver. funny thing is after installing and downloading seems like every game in the repo haven't used it in last 3 or 4 months. nothing close to puppy speed!
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Jim1911
Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 2460 Location: Texas, USA
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Hi Mick,
Pemasu has compiled the latest Bibletime 2.9.1 for Dpup Exprimo.
I installed it on slacko and it runs fine from a terminal although it has one missing dependency (bibletime: /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libsword-1.6.2.so)) which prevents it from executing it using the desktop file. EDIT: Although the dependency is still missing the desktop file has started working. I haven't done anything but run firefox. The program appears to be working as it should.
Please consider making it available with the new slacko. Links to pemasu's files are on the Bibletime thread that I linked to above.
Problem discovered. I tried to mount my Exprimo save file to copy libcurl.so.4 over to slacko and discovered that slacko cannot mount a save file.
Thanks,
Jim
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6717 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Mon 05 Mar 2012, 19:41 Post subject:
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Jim1911 wrote: |
Problem discovered. I tried to mount my Exprimo save file to copy libcurl.so.4 over to slacko and discovered that slacko cannot mount a save file. |
Had same problem here trying to mount ext4 savefiles (but no problem mounting ext3).
Right click on the Exprimo savefile, go to "set run action" and change to" filemnt "$1""as shown in my screenshot. Will now mount ext4 savefiles.
Worked here.HTH.
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Jasper
Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Posts: 1350 Location: England
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Hi James C,
Thanks for the $1 tip which worked for me with a Slacko 5.3.1 ext4 savefile.
My regards
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Jim1911
Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 2460 Location: Texas, USA
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Hi James C,
Thanks for filemnt "$1" tip and clear explanation as to how to use it which worked for me also.
Jim
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shinobar

Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 2664 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon 05 Mar 2012, 23:56 Post subject:
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Jim1911 wrote: | Problem discovered. I tried to mount my Exprimo save file to copy libcurl.so.4 over to slacko and discovered that slacko cannot mount a save file. |
James C wrote: | Had same problem here trying to mount ext4 savefiles (but no problem mounting ext3).
Right click on the Exprimo savefile, go to "set run action" and change to" filemnt "$1""as shown in my screenshot. Will now mount ext4 savefiles. |
James C, you are right.
Or, you can copy the file /root/Choices/MIME-types/application_x-ext3-image to 'application_x-ext4-image'.
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DaveS

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3726 Location: UK
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shinobar wrote: | Jim1911 wrote: | Problem discovered. I tried to mount my Exprimo save file to copy libcurl.so.4 over to slacko and discovered that slacko cannot mount a save file. |
James C wrote: | Had same problem here trying to mount ext4 savefiles (but no problem mounting ext3).
Right click on the Exprimo savefile, go to "set run action" and change to" filemnt "$1""as shown in my screenshot. Will now mount ext4 savefiles. |
James C, you are right.
Or, you can copy the file /root/Choices/MIME-types/application_x-ext3-image to 'application_x-ext4-image'. |
application_x-ext4-image is already there.
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