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tytower
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 440 Location: Green Island Cairns for the winter
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Posted: Mon 12 Mar 2012, 05:04 Post_subject:
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I had good sound with a level adjuster in the tray but I was playing with the sound and it all disappeared
No tray level . Looking for sound problems I go through the alsa configuration setup but the machine now does not find a sound card
Its got one of these built in sound and graphics motherboards from Dell
Anyone got any clues?
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darkcity

Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2218 Location: near here
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Posted: Mon 12 Mar 2012, 17:00 Post_subject:
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in what way were you playing with sound?
that output do you get if you tap
or
into the terminal?
the tray volume Retrovol won't load if its set to a soundcard that doesn't exist.
does the sound come back if you boot without pup save file
(if your using frugal)
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tytower
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 440 Location: Green Island Cairns for the winter
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Posted: Tue 13 Mar 2012, 04:37 Post_subject:
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I am trying to work out how to copy the output of the urxvt console to post here
Sound does come back when I boot without pupsave file
In the meantime this is from pupscan
DESCRIPTION: Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio
VENDOR: 10de DEVICE: 026c
KERNEL DRIVER (builtin): Intel
KERNEL MODULE: snd-hda-intel
and the attached screenshot is from Hardware info
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darkcity

Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2218 Location: near here
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Posted: Tue 13 Mar 2012, 07:14 Post_subject:
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okay I've found its hard to get the sound system back on track.
looks like ALSA should use snd_hda_intel
I think the following file is where it gets loaded:
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
could try comparing what's in the pupsave with the pupbase.sfs
-make a copy of the pupbase.sfs
-boot without pupsave
-now both pupsave and pupbase.sfs can be mounted and inspected
btw- to get text from terminal highlight text, go to destination and press middle mouse button-
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/HowToCopyFromTerminal
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tytower
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 440 Location: Green Island Cairns for the winter
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Posted: Wed 14 Mar 2012, 16:17 Post_subject:
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OK Thanks
I'll look into both config files
The output you requested is
# aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
ALSA lib conf.c:1016:(parse_value) card is not a string
ALSA lib conf.c:1685:(snd_config_load1) _toplevel_:2:20:Invalid argument
ALSA lib conf.c:3467:(snd_config_hook_load) /etc/asound.conf may be old or corrupted: consider to remove or fix it
ALSA lib conf.c:3326:(snd_config_hooks_call) function snd_config_hook_load returned error: Invalid argument
ALSA lib conf.c:3713:(snd_config_update_r) hooks failed, removing configuration
aplay: device_list:249: control open (0): Invalid argument
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# alsamixer
alsamixer.bin: option requires an argument -- 'c'
Usage: alsamixer [options]
Useful options:
-h, --help this help
-c, --card=NUMBER sound card number or id
-D, --device=NAME mixer device name
-V, --view=MODE starting view mode: playback/capture/all
Debugging options:
-g, --no-color toggle using of colors
-a, --abstraction=NAME mixer abstraction level: none/basic
#
I am thinking alsamixer needs an argument ,perhaps -c but I dont know where I would get the card number
I also guess that aplay is just revealing that the sound module is not correctly loaded
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npierce
Joined: 28 Dec 2009 Posts: 669
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Posted: Thu 15 Mar 2012, 17:30 Post_subject:
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Your /etc/asound.conf file is probably corrupt. Please post the results of:
| Code: | | cat /etc/asound.conf |
I'm guessing it may look like this:
| Code: | # cat /etc/asound.conf
defaults.pcm.card
defaults.pcm.device |
This can happen if Multiple-Sound-Card-Wizard was run, but couldn't find any sound devices.
A good file will have an integer at the end of each line. If yours does not, delete the file and try aplay -l again. If the result is something like
| Code: | | aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found... |
then one or more of your sound modules have probably been unloaded, and should return when you next reboot if nothing else is broken.
You do not need /etc/asound.conf unless you have multiple sound cards and need to change the default. ALSA is happy without the file, but gets very confused if it exists and is corrupt.
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tytower
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 440 Location: Green Island Cairns for the winter
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Posted: Sat 24 Mar 2012, 01:49 Post_subject:
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@darkcity
Nope,
both config files are identical -alsa.config and alsa-base.config
Will have a look at npierce's suggestion
,thanks
@npierce The file looked as you suggested. I deleted it
Now
aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 0: HDA Generic [HDA Generic]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
#
and now I'll try a reboot.
Brilliant the sound icon is back in the tray and the woof works -Thanks a lot for posting - Porn without sound is just plain boring hey!
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darkcity

Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2218 Location: near here
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Posted: Sat 24 Mar 2012, 06:35 Post_subject:
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@npierce thanks for help looks like I was looking in the wrong place.
@tytower glad you can now fully enjoy your 'computer'
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npierce
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Posted: Sat 24 Mar 2012, 08:19 Post_subject:
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You're welcome. 'Tis good to hear that the problem is solved.
darkcity,
You asked the right questions. If you had not I wouldn't have suspected that asound.conf was missing its integers. The "ALSA lib conf.c:1016:(parse_value) card is not a string" from aplay, and the "alsamixer.bin: option requires an argument -- 'c'" from amixer were the tip-offs. So thank you.
By the way, this problem could sometimes arise from running the Multiple Sound Card Wizard (item "THREE" in the Sound Wizard) after ALSA Wizard had unloaded a necessary sound module. Barry recently uploaded an improved Multiple Sound Card Wizard to the repository which should prevent this from happening in future Puppies.
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darkcity

Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2218 Location: near here
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Posted: Sat 24 Mar 2012, 09:54 Post_subject:
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thanks for the info, good to know Multiple Soundcard Wizard got an update
; -)
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