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Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.1.10.3 SMP multicore optimized version
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shinobar


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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012, 07:18    Post subject: offer getflash  

pemasu wrote:
In /root/Startup/firstrun script....$GETFLASH and $FLASHINMENU didnt work in dpup, I dont know why...the flash downloading was not offered,

I had to explain what i intended. My intention is to minimize the start up dialogs because they may be tired for some who wants to use Puppy as temporary use like a rescue measure.

I left a comment in the /root/Startup/firstrun:
Code:
# need not offer to download flashplayer if it can be done from the menu

If you want to offer the getflash at the first boot, remove the condition '[ -z "$GETFLASHINMENU" ]' from the next line:
Code:
[ ! -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so ] && [ -z "$GETFLASHINMENU" ] && [ "$GETFLASH" ] && $GETFLASH   # offer to download flashplayer here

to
Code:
[ ! -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so ] && [ "$GETFLASH" ] && $GETFLASH   # offer to download flashplayer here

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012, 07:22    Post subject:  

Okay...I tried to find out what test [ -z ] means but got sidetracked and I removed the whole stuff.
My principle. What you dont understand....remove it.
It has lead really interesting life...consequences are sometimes really fantastic....
Well...I have managed to avoid court room though...

I included yours script of firstrun-2.0...just /root/Startup/firstrun and delayedrun will be the really cut down...mixed up soup....which should work though....with flash download offer until first internet connection has been established and once offered....but just once....2 barks ok, your firstrun script call in delayedrun and after it..../root/startup other content will be launched.

The 2 barks problem was noticed and I made circumvent to fix it...my cut down way...
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012, 07:35    Post subject: S\startup sequence  

pemasu wrote:
here is the planned firstrun and delayedrun as tarball.

Nice. Only one thing i would like to suggest is:
I think it needless to offer 'bootmanager extrasfs quiet' because sfs_load can load sfs anytime on-the-fly.

PS. i have a plan a script 'extrasfsfind' as the replace. It lists up only the sfs in the sub folder if the Puppy is installed in a sub folder.
(The extrasfsfind attached is contained in the sfs_load-1.4.pet.)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64354
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012, 07:42    Post subject:  

In fact I thought about it...well...now I go the lake ice skating with trekking skates and have nice spring sun shine with long peaceful skating...and think about bootmanager sfs offer. There might be people who just wants to do it old way....not sure about that. Things change...I havent used bootmanager for sfs loading in eons...
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012, 08:29    Post subject: sfs_load-1.4  

sfs_load-1.4.pet contains the script extrasfsfind works with the firstrun and pupsaveconfig, offers to install packages found in the live cd or in the folder where the pupsave to be saved.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64354

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012, 09:07    Post subject:  

Great. Good improvements. They need real test. I will add this sfs_load-1.4 to the 5.X.3.2.11 build now.
And I remove the bootmanager sfs checking from the delayedrun.
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012, 17:06    Post subject: FLASH  

pemasu wrote:
Thank You ETP of exclusive report. It seems you have taken most out of the puplet.

getflash has been included and is in fact in crucial usage. The delayedrun script part to suggest the download has been removed and firstrun script launches the getflash when conditions permits.

There is menu entry in Internet for manual downloading and you get version information of installed one.


My point is that the current setup (auto & Flasher 0.1) only ever installs an old version of flash i.e. 11.1.102.55.
The getflash-0.5.pet always installs the latest version of flash -currently 11.1.102.63
http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

5.X.3.2.11 with 3.2.11 kernel has the same problem. It would at least make sense to call the suggested pet from the menu.

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012, 17:19    Post subject:  

Oops. Havent noticed that. Need to fix the flash downloader.
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012, 17:29    Post subject:  

Luckily there are indeed several getflash available. Also Shinobar`s getfash-0.8.pet /usr/sbin/getflash shows the version and even better....it shows the available version before downloading.
I removed the flashblock downloading offer...since Firefox has it preinstalled...you just need to enable it in Firefox.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Mar 2012, 00:37    Post subject:  

TrayManager 5.2 posted

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=58957
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Mar 2012, 07:26    Post subject:  

Jpeps. Thank you of info. Will test.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Mar 2012, 12:13    Post subject: Exprimo 5x3.1.10.1 Symlink Error  

Hi pemasu & all:

Greendome has recently made available wine 1.4. As I use wine in all my Puplets, I downloaded it to a folder on an Ext3 partition (not /mnt/home) in which I store pets generally usable in all puplets. And as installing wine is one of the first things I do, I attempted to create a symlink to the new wine pet in a folder named "usual" on the same partition. I used the standard technique: drag & drop, select "link relative." It generated the following error: "File doesn't exist, or I can't access it /mnt/sda1/Usual/wine-1,4-i486_v1.pet."
See attached:
Note, the folder in which the pet is stored is 3 levels deep -- /mnt/sda1/PuppyFiles/PuppyStuff-- while the folder "ususal" is two levels deep: /mnt/sda1/PuppyFiles/Usual. This seems to make a difference. Symlinks could be created with that technique if a file at the 2nd level to the 2nd --for example /mnt/sda1/PuppyFiles-- was used.

Otherwise, 5x3.1.10.1 seems like it will be another great puplet.

mikesLr
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Mar 2012, 12:47    Post subject:  

Hmm. I created 4th level test directory to the ext4 formatted laptop hdd and created another 4th level directory to ext4 formatted usb hdd, then I copied a pet into laptop hdd 4th folder and symlinked it to the 4th level folder of the usb hdd. It worked fine. Pic of the result.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Mar 2012, 20:19    Post subject: No, The symlink problem is odd, see this post  

Hi pemasu:

Perhaps there's something wrong with the partition I was using. Had the same problem with Exprimo 5x3.2.11. But after I read your response, I successfully created symlinks on a different partition. One nice thing about having lots of partitions is I can move everything off one and reformat it. That's what I'll do. My apologies for sending you on a wild goose hunt. Unless, of course, you like wild geese.('Rolling Eyes')

Edited after reformatting. After reformatting, the symlink problem persisted. It also showed up in 3-Headed Dog. Then I remembered that being particularly lazy, and using the pets I had symlinked in the "ususal" folder often [you, 01micko and playdaz having been rather busy of late generating new puplets to test('Smile')] I had created a symlink to the entire "usual" folder --which is at level 2-- at the top level. If I open "usual" by clicking its symlink at the top level and try to create a symlink within it to a file, I'll receive the error I reported. However, if I browse to the "usual" folder and open it, I can create a symlink within it to files elsewhere.
I thought a symlink to a folder was just a "shortcut" and that clicking it opened the folder with all permissions given that folder. Either I misunderstood, or something about symlinks in Exprimo, and 3 Headed Dog is amiss. I haven't yet tested Slacko. (A permissions problem?).
I should note the following addition to the puzzle. Once a symlink is created, if I access the folder by clicking its symlink at the top level, clicking the symlinks within the folder "opens" the symlinked file.

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 06:08    Post subject:  

Somethings happening that I never noticed before. When I unplug a device, such as a printer from my USB port, the computer will sometimes crash, or go into hibernation mode (screen goes black, but comes back on with the switch). I only have one available port, so I remove it when finished printing to plug in a cooling fan. Today when I unplugged it the computer froze, and after a hard reboot I lost everything on my main hard drive partition. I tried everything, from fsck, e2fsck gparted, even some windows recovery programs...nothing worked other than reformatting. Without reformatting, it would hang up on the boot. Fortunately, I had some fairly recent backups on an external server.

Seems like it needs some kind of a safe eject tool that it never needed before.

I see there's an "eject" command available. Wonder if that works with a printer.
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