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cowboy


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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012, 16:24    Post subject:  libreoffice update  

Libreoffice has become the "go to" office suite for many, if not most, Linux users. While the current version on their site can be downloaded and applied (maybe, haven't tried it yet) as .deb files on our Lucid puppies, the simplest way for most users to get Libreoffice is as a .sfs file on the official repos through the PPM. Currently, the latest version is 3.3.1. I would request that a newer version be uploaded to the repos, perhaps the final 3.4 version. That would give many of us an updated version of this crucial application in the simplest way possible. If at all possible, thanks so much.
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012, 21:00    Post subject: Re: libreoffice update  

cowboy wrote:
I would request that a newer version be uploaded to the repos, perhaps the final 3.4 version.

Good plan

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012, 21:40    Post subject: Re: libreoffice update
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cowboy wrote:
Libreoffice has become the "go to" office suite for many, if not most, Linux users. While the current version on their site can be downloaded and applied (maybe, haven't tried it yet) as .deb files on our Lucid puppies, the simplest way for most users to get Libreoffice is as a .sfs file on the official repos through the PPM. Currently, the latest version is 3.3.1. I would request that a newer version be uploaded to the repos, perhaps the final 3.4 version. That would give many of us an updated version of this crucial application in the simplest way possible. If at all possible, thanks so much.


Go here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65918

Get the downloader .pet and get LibreOffice 3.5.1 with help, spell check, etc. automated. At least I did. It was simpler to upgrade than in the past, where I had to plaster it in with symlinks, folder name changes, etc.This latest stable version is superb, slicker, better wysiwyg html editor, imports complete, complex WordPerfect docs, etc, etc. It's also the best pdf editor you'll find!
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Mar 2012, 16:24    Post subject:  

Got the downloader .pet and get LibreOffice 3.5.1 with help, spell check, etc.
Very fast easy d/l using DSL.
Created the SFS and then using SFSInstall, I installed to full hard drive installation on ext4 partition.

Everything works except base which requires JRE and I do not have it loaded. At present, I do not need base and will continiue using the other programs.

One thing I noticed, this version opens writer, spreadsheet, presentation, etc much, much faster than my windows 7 machine using the same version=3.51.2

My linux pc is HP Pentium 4, 2.8ghz cpu and 2gb memory

My windows pc is HP Pravillon, dm4-2070us, I5-2410m Processor with turbo boost and 6gb memory.

Linux version opens applications 2-3 times faster than WIn 7
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Mar 2012, 16:34    Post subject: Re: libreoffice update  

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Joseph must be reading the wrong Old Testament.

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Mar 2012, 16:57    Post subject:  

Hi,

Using Slacko 5.3.1 and loading LibreOffice 3.3 sfs as required and putting Quickstarter in my System Tray takes about 20", but then loading any of the appiications seems almost instantaneous and with 597MB of RAM I can have Quickstarter constantly available.

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Roy

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Mar 2012, 22:27    Post subject:  

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It's also the best pdf editor you'll find


Can someone explain how to edit PDFs with LibreOffice? I was not aware that was possible.

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Henry

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Mar 2012, 23:19    Post subject:  

Open it in Draw.
Edit it.
Export it as pdf.
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 05:50    Post subject:  

In other words you can't truly edit it. You can import it, and then rexport it as a new PDF. What sort of editing do you want to do to the PDF?
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 11:22    Post subject:  

Good morning, disciple,

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Wiktionary: distinction without a difference
A linguistic or conceptual distinction which is of no practical importance or which has no effect on meaning; a perceived difference where there is no actual difference. See also
much of a muchness
same difference


Jack Wallen in TechRepublic:
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Import PDFs with ease
In previous iterations of OpenOffice, the PDF import was a kludge at best. Although LibreOffice handles the importing of PDFs the same way (imports them as LibreOffice Draw documents), the results are far better. Once you have imported your PDF (you do so by using the Open dialog), you can edit text, images, and layouts by clicking and dragging (for images/layout) or double-clicking a line of text to edit. (You can edit only a single line of text at a time.) When you finish editing your PDF, don’t save the document — instead, export it as a PDF by clicking File | Export as PDF.

I think most would not object to calling this an edit. I do think that editing pdfs is over rated. I rarerly do, since most pdfs I want to change are mine and I have the source document. But if I've lost it, or want to just make a small change . . .

I've followed your work in this area, but fled the pythons (smile). This, on the other hand, was already here, and just worked.
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Roy

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 11:38    Post subject:  

Thanks for the information!

I've often needed a way to add a signature to a PDF without the added hardware of a printer or scanner, hence my interest in this feature.

Guess I'll have to wait for an updated SFS (sfs3?) from somebody that works with the 4-series pups (Fluppy 13 or the just released Legacy-OS-4-Mini) to try this out.

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 16:02    Post subject:  

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This, on the other hand, was already here, and just worked.

Well, it does a different job, doesn't it? It sounds like an alternative to pdfedit...
How much have you used it? It doesn't mess up stuff in the pdf in the process?

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 16:53    Post subject:  

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Well, it does a different job, doesn't it? It sounds like an alternative to pdfedit...
How much have you used it? It doesn't mess up stuff in the pdf in the process?

How do the jobs differ? As I said I haven't edited many pdfs so can't speak broadly. (I had used Acrobat to do this in the past - still have it on wine.) I was impressed with the ease of use of LibreOffice in editing pdfs. I had tried unsuccessfully to get pdfedit and pdfshuffler to work in my QuirkyNop-1.2 but it was not a high priority.
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 17:35    Post subject:  

Pdfedit is for editing the actual content that is on the page, similar to what is described using Libreoffice in the quote from Jack above. It sounds like the Libreoffice method might be a lot easier for this, but I'm guessing if you only wanted to edit one page in a large document you might want to put just that page through libreoffice, and then combine it with the other pages using something like pdfshuffer.
Pdfshuffler is not for editing the content that is on the page - it is for rearranging pages, splitting, merging, rotating, deleting, cropping...
There are two other programs very similar to Pdfshuffler: Final Page (Written in Vala, but it looks like it is unmaintained) and Pdfmod (requires the Mono bloatware; has some extra features such as creating bookmarks).

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 17:52    Post subject:  

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Pdfshuffler is not for editing the content that is on the page - it is for rearranging pages, splitting, merging, rotating, deleting, cropping

I have not tried all these things, but they would appear to also work in LibreOffice. Pages, for example, can be easily moved about with cut and paste in the left index column.
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