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Gnuxo · Joined: 09 Feb 2012 Posts: 360

I've looked but I can't seem to find any Qt frontends for Gstreamer. Sad

Do they even exist?

I think something like Xine-UI with it's plugin might adequately replace Gnome Mplayer too. I don't believe it needs Gtk.

It's been updated actively lately. The newest version might be really good.

Also to avoid slow down on Qtpup, any gtk app should be available as SFS bundles. I got this idea from Chakra linux's bundles concept. They avoid any redundant gtk library installation by having Gtk apps available separately as self contained packages.

That way you can still use Firefox if you want to. Simply load the SFS. Then you can unload it later if you wish. No new libraries are installed which keeps the OS snappy.

darkcity · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2215 Location: near here

To my understanding. The difference between SFS and PET packages is how they are loaded not what they contain. This applies only to frugal installations (a full installation will load everything to the rootfs on its partition).

SFS file add another layer to the filing system (sfs file is readonly) -modifications would be stored in pupsave file.

PET files are extracted into the pupsave.

there's a long debate on package management at-
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=75383

Gnuxo · Joined: 09 Feb 2012 Posts: 360

Erm...not particularly sure about the differences between pets and sfs, aside from what I've experienced using them.

I always believed that an Sfs was a self contained package collection that could be independently run inside puppy using a simulated file system.

Though I shouldn't make educated guesses about that which I am not sure about.

About QTgstreamer, that's not what I meant. It's not a media player, it's a binding. I was looking for a QT media player based gstreamer.

scsijon · Posted: Sat 24 Mar 2012, 18:12 Post subject:

scsijon · Posted: Sat 24 Mar 2012, 18:28 Post subject:

folks,
There are bunfights on using static against dynamic packaging all over, I intend to work with dynamic packaging as this eliminates the possability of killing one app by removing another when the both use a particular library.

Overall size is no longer important, although I would like the final package to come in below 150Mb, as long as it is less than the size of a cd, that is all it matters.

Gstreamer is a backend operation, not a user application in itself. I shall be using clemintine for music at least as it's good for that, I am undecided what to use for video and the like as there is quite a choice (17) in the qt world, I shall decide when I have a working base as I want to make sure it can handle satellite, which has the worst streaming video possible with the transmission delays it has.

UPDATE: Just had a look at eggwm 0.2 (latest), it has expanding a minimized window problems with razorqt, which you must agree is a 'biggie' so for now I won't build it. If the problem is fixed, I will consider it then.

Gnuxo · Joined: 09 Feb 2012 Posts: 360

What about ffplay? I used it play audio/video before from the hard disk.
Though I never figured how to get it to play online streams.

scsijon · Posted: Sun 25 Mar 2012, 12:37 Post subject: mage004

new dev uploaded ok

problem with full install fixed (typso)

Gnuxo · Joined: 09 Feb 2012 Posts: 360

Ok, I accidentally stumbled upon Dragonplayer, which is a gstreamer based audio/video player for KDE.

Being a KDE app, I don't think you'll be interested but at least it's a start.

In KDE, the Kpart plugin is what is used to play videos without flash using Kmplayer and gstreamer or mplayer or Xine, in Konquerer. (Yes Kpart only works in Konquerer)

However Konquerer is the only QT derivative of firefox. Or the closest to it.

Since this is a Qtpup, the KDE apps could be available options which is welcome.

greengeek · Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 1184 Location: New Zealand

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Tried to download mage004 but got this message:

"Sorry this page doesn't seem to be yet loaded, is faulty, or is not a page on this site! "

scsijon · Posted: Mon 26 Mar 2012, 19:33 Post subject:

note that there seems to have been a hardware crash last night, I am missing a lot of files.

reuploading these now, may not be available till tomorrow though as not all uploads work during the day.

sorry
scsijon

scsijon · Posted: Tue 27 Mar 2012, 09:35 Post subject:

ok, my puppy files are all ok again, now for 1109 glass files, batching them overnight....

have fun

greengeek · Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 1184 Location: New Zealand

Mage 0.0.4 on Toshiba TE2100 2ghz 512Mb laptop, Xorgwizard wizard was unable to produce a working configuration and xwin would not run. Had to rerun xorgwizard and choose vesa. Then booted into desktop ok.

Haven't had this problem with other recent puppies on this laptop, but seem to recall it with some earlier ones.

Video is nVidia "Geforce4 420 Go" and I usually just run it in it's default mode as selected by the xorgwizard probe which seems to work fine in other puppies - I don't load a special driver (although I will eventually do so when I want to run CAD. Sometimes I load the xorg_high pet to speed up the graphics for trialling CAD programs).

pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5169 Location: Finland

Just for fun of it. Mage-0.0.4. Boots to X with no problem. Wireless ok. I used ppm and chose arora and let all the dependencies to be downloaded, which meant most of mageia qt libs. Then libxcb-atom and here we are. I changed the Trolltech file to my own and got bigger fonts in menu bar. Qupzilla wasnt in Mageia repo so that is why arora.

I will test mageia repo for multimedia apps next.

I would say that the start looks good. And the kernel seems decent Very Happy

Good work !

pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5169 Location: Finland

Clementine and all needed dependencies from mageia repo

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4741 Location: Kentucky

Mage-0.0.4 live pfix=ram.Had some trouble getting X to start.Began with "probe" and selecting 1366x768 and got a black screen with the "monitor out of range" message.Back to Xorgwizard, chose the "nouveau" driver (what this graphics chip generally uses) and got stuck at the prompt.Tried "vesa" and got a totally distorted screen. Back to Xorgwizard, chose "nv" and finally a desktop at the desired resolution.

# report-video
Mage1 Puppy, version 0.0.4 on Wed 28 Mar 2012

Chip description:

oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nv

X.Org version: 1.10.1
dimensions: 1368x768 pixels (414x232 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz

The sys-info-120328.gz is attached.

Installed Iceape 2.0.14 and one dependency, working ootb.