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RSH · Joined: 05 Sep 2011 Posts: 1564 Location: Germany

Hello to the Admins.

I do feel the need to complain on a very strange behavior of murga-forum-server. Several times a day the server doesn't respond and/or takes minutes to do so. If i am just reading this may be a minor issue, but if i am posting something it is more than a major problem - because several times i did lost the text inside the forum text editor.

So i do make now almost a copy of what i want to post, before i click on preview and/or submit.

When will this be fixed?

Is there a chance to fix this?

I am just asking the second question because it's getting more ugly the last two weeks! Evil or Very Mad

And, no: it is not my internet connection, because i do not have such delay on any other website i do visit while the murga-forum-not-responding-minor-issue-major-problem is alive.

RSH · Joined: 05 Sep 2011 Posts: 1564 Location: Germany

In between this strange behavior did hurt me again 3 times!

Flash · Posted: Thu 29 Mar 2012, 17:01 Post subject:

The forum sometimes does take a while to respond, but I can't remember seeing that before. I don't think the forum server sent it. Perhaps your browser is generating it, or a router or something.

Makoto · Posted: Thu 29 Mar 2012, 18:05 Post subject:

That's one of the standard Firefox timeout messages, Flash. I can't remember whether or not Seamonkey does something similar.

Yeah, the server has been a little slow to respond, at times, but never enough to generate a timeout message, for me. RSH, what do you get if you open a terminal and ping murga-linux.com?

Sylvander · Posted: Thu 29 Mar 2012, 18:45 Post subject:

Me too!
Until recently I too had been having this problem...
Not only at the Puppy forums...
But also at the PC-Guide forums at the same time.

1. THE CAUSE AND THE SOLUTION:
My ISP [Virgin] said that the IP address of their server was probably being blocked by these sites.

I was directed to go to:
Firefox->Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Network->Settings->Manual proxy configuration:"...
Then enter...
Proxy: webcache.virginmedia.com
Port: 8080
Place checkmark against: "Use this proxy server for all protocols".

The problem ceased.

2. He said that over the week following that change...
At some point the problem may return...
[Because they periodically (and automatically) change the IP address of their server]
And when it does, to click the "No proxy" radio button.
That's the setting now in use, and all is now well once more.

Flash · Posted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 01:10 Post subject:

Holy mother of pearl, why does it have to be so complicated? Laughing

Sylvander · Posted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 01:23 Post subject:

I was rather astonished that major forums would be blocking the IP address of a major ISP. Rolling Eyes

And now it seems likely that [at the very least....] yet another ISP's IP address is being blocked. Confused

Flash · Posted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 08:44 Post subject:

I don't think the Puppy forum was blocking it, but our host is another matter. Last I knew, our host is Godaddy. And your ISP only guessed at what was going on. If a major forum, such as the Puppy Linux forum Laughing

, had really been blocking you, you should never have gotten through at all. Instead, the problem was intermittent.

Aitch · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6825 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

RSH

I have found this often to be a DNS failure
Try setting up your network in the original network wizard using fixed IP, [note your existing IP/router addresses by typing ifconfig in console] so you can add DNS servers; OpenDNS, 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220
or 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.3 [verizon DNS]

or see here

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13931

Aitch Smile

RSH · Joined: 05 Sep 2011 Posts: 1564 Location: Germany

Aitch · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6825 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

your ping times are very laggy

try typing in a console traceroute www.murga-linux.com

and see where the delays are

I'm in UK and get a maximum 143ms for the last few hops

Have you got a good aerial signal?, as weak signal will cause a 3G device to switch down from 7.2mhz to 2g at 368khz - not much better than dialup

I don't think you need to setup DNS for a 3G modem...? [I never needed to, using 'Three' on Huawei E220 on my boat - but signal strength is crucial!]

Afterthought - It may be a driver issue for the modem?
Have you checked the device make/chipset against a linux driverlist?

Aitch Smile

RSH · Joined: 05 Sep 2011 Posts: 1564 Location: Germany

Aitch · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6825 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

Well, I would contact Telekom, and let them know the problem you're having and see what they suggest, as I see your ping and traceroute times are much slower/laggy than mine, but can offer no explanation nor solution - sorry

Aitch Smile

8-bit · Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 3018 Location: Oregon

Just for a comparison, I tried the traceroute in Southern Oregon with my Quest ISP provider and got:

# traceroute www.murga-linux.com
traceroute to www.murga-linux.com (208.109.22.214), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 qwestmodem.domain.actdsltmp (192.168.0.1) 0.814 ms 0.463 ms 0.413 ms
2 eugn-dsl-gw04-196.eugn.qwest.net (67.42.192.196) 49.114 ms 49.787 ms 49.997 ms
3 eugn-agw1.inet.qwest.net (67.42.193.25) 49.287 ms 49.347 ms 49.994 ms
4 eug-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.150.57) 49.568 ms 49.458 ms 49.763 ms
5 phn-core-02.inet.qwest.net (67.14.19.34) 81.373 ms 81.181 ms 80.564 ms
6 phn-edge-06.inet.qwest.net (205.171.12.146) 80.610 ms 91.028 ms 81.528 ms
7 63-234-235-102.dia.static.qwest.net (63.234.235.102) 81.835 ms 81.592 ms 82.022 ms
8 ip-216-69-188-18.ip.secureserver.net (216.69.188.1 Cool

125.917 ms 90.022 ms 96.323 ms
9 ip (216.69.188.1 Cool

94.776 ms 123.822 ms 84.737 ms
10 www.murga (208.109.22.214) 84.279 ms 83.823 ms 84.198 ms
#

It seems like it did a quite a bit of switching in quest to get out to the secureserver.net. But only one jump from there to the forum.

Aitch · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6825 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

RSH

Have you tried using a different browser, e.g. chrome/opera, in case there's some settings/IP blocking happening, as it doesn't appear to just be the oft-encountered transcontinental link delay, if murga-linux is the only site you have problems with?

Aitch Smile