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Lazy JW

Joined: 21 Dec 2011
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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 09:23    Post subject:  Dillo Again
Subject description: How to enable HTTPS DPI?
 

Howdy All,
Still playing with Dillo; certain websites require the use of HTTPS support. I get the following message:

The https dpi was unable to send the following HTTP query: (Quote)

GET/HTTP/1.1
Connection: close
Accept: text/*,image/*/*;q=0.2
Accept-Charset: utf-8,*,q=0.8
Accept-Encoding: gzip
Host: www.gmail.com
Referer:https://www.gmail.com/
User-Agent: Dillo/2.2.1
because Dillo's prototype plugin for https support is disabled.

If you want to test this alpha support code, just reconfigure with --enable-ssl, recompile and reinstall. (beware that this https support is very limited now) To use https and SSL, you must have the OpenSSL development libraries installed. Check your O/S distribution provider, or check out www.openssl.org. (End Quote)

So it looks like I have several steps to take:
1. Download and install OpenSSL
2. Figure out where and how to do Step #1.
3. Learn how to reconfigure.
4. Learn how to recompile.
5. Learn how to reinstall.
6. And probably some unforseen learning.

I do realize that the version of Dillo supplied with my Lucid 528 is outdated, perhaps I should start with downloading the newest version? Not quite sure where to begin.
Joe
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sfeeley

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 10:07    Post subject:  

Quote:
AOpen motherboard, P4 CPU, 1 GB ram. two 40 Gig Maxtor HDD's booting
FreeDos, XP, Linux Mint, Ubuntu, and Slacko (frugal install) with
Grub4Dos bootloader.

I booted to Lucid 5.2.8 because it has Dillo installed. Some of the web
sites I visit require cookies.


I recognize that you want a lightweight browser. And I'm sure that you will get help with Dillo. The steps you outline above are pretty lengthy though, and might be frustrating if you are just getting started on puppy.

That said, have you tried other browsers? I've had opera and firefox run pretty well on worse computers with lousy connections.

Also consider firepup. Its a stripped down version of an old version firefox that used to run crazy fast on one of my old computers.
It rendered pages much better than dillo in my experience too.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34876

firedog is a bit bigger--I've not used it, but also optimized for speed and weight.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48254
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34876

just click on the pet to install either of these, and you should get something useable running in no time
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Lazy JW

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 10:23    Post subject:  

sfeeley wrote:
Quote:
AOpen motherboard, P4 CPU, 1 GB ram. two 40 Gig Maxtor HDD's booting
FreeDos, XP, Linux Mint, Ubuntu, and Slacko (frugal install) with
Grub4Dos bootloader.

I booted to Lucid 5.2.8 because it has Dillo installed. Some of the web
sites I visit require cookies.


I recognize that you want a lightweight browser. And I'm sure that you will get help with Dillo. The steps you outline above are pretty lengthy though, and might be frustrating if you are just getting started on puppy.

That said, have you tried other browsers? I've had opera and firefox run pretty well on worse computers with lousy connections.

Also consider firepup. Its a stripped down version of an old version firefox that used to run crazy fast on one of my old computers.
It rendered pages much better than dillo in my experience too.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34876

firedog is a bit bigger--I've not used it, but also optimized for speed and weight.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48254
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34876

just click on the pet to install either of these, and you should get something useable running in no time


Thanks for the links, I'll give them a try. I would like to learn more about using Puppy, and thrashing through something like Dillo may take some time but should be educational.
Joe
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sfeeley

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 16:05    Post subject:  

Quote:

I would like to learn more about using Puppy, and thrashing through something like Dillo may take some time but should be educational.


the very best sort of attitude.

BTW-- if you are successful in your Dillo quest, please be sure to post your results and method. A more functional dillo may be quite useful for many.
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Lazy JW

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 20:53    Post subject:  

So, a while back I had downloaded Dillo 3.0.2 while I was on a fast network and put it on my thumb drive. I just now dragged it from my thumb drive into the ~ folder alongside of the existing Dillo file. Obviously, this does not an install make. How do I go about actually installing Dillo 3.0.2?
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sfeeley

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 22:23    Post subject:  

generally the easiest way to install something in puppy is with a .pet file. Simply download it then click it.
To find these:
1) try looking with the puppy package manager. You _might_ want to update it first (hit the configure button, and make choices, then restart the package manager-- warning update can take a while).

2) often unofficial pets can be found by looking in the forum. In fact these are often more up to date. Looking through the forums I found this thread which contains a dillo pet that should work for you.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76500&sid=3c469f92cc52b96d7c43a87e0c6f2db7

the thread also contains some discussion of getting dillo to work with java, but apparently that went nowhere.

There is a thread giving tips for how to search the forum near the top of the beginners page.

caveat: since an older version of dillo is already built into most puppies, I'm not sure if downloading the pet mentioned above will remove the old one, or what.
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sfeeley

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 22:27    Post subject:  

adding to the list of ultra light browsers that you might try:

links browser
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72044
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Lazy JW

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PostPosted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 08:53    Post subject:  

sfeeley wrote:
... a dillo pet that should work for you.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76500&sid=3c469f92cc52b96d7c43a87e0c6f2db7
...

caveat: since an older version of dillo is already built into most puppies, I'm not sure if downloading the pet mentioned above will remove the old one, or what.


Thanks for the tips.
I downloaded the indicated pet and installed it. The little popup stated that it was installed successfully. Clicked on it, nothing happened. Rebooted. Same thing.

Perhaps the original Dillo installation is interfering? So I deleted it. Nothing. Deleted the new Dillo, then reinstalled. Same thing. Downloaded the new Dillo again and installed. Once again, it said that all went well but no joy.

I looked in ~/.dillo and it only shows two files, bm.txt and style.css. The old one had several more files, so I think this one is incomplete.
Joe
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Semme

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PostPosted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 09:14    Post subject:  

Hi Joe, start Dillo from a shell and forward the output- she mus'be missing something..

Likewise you could dump: ldd /usr/bin/dillo
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Lazy JW

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PostPosted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 09:20    Post subject:  

sfeeley wrote:
adding to the list of ultra light browsers that you might try:

links browser
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72044


I just installed Links and it semms to work ok. I need to play with it a bit to explore its abilities.

I looked at the Firepup and Firedog links but the download links are no longer valid. I may try Opera next.
Thanks for the help,
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PostPosted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 09:21    Post subject:  

Op's worth a shot fer sure..
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sfeeley

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PostPosted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 14:45    Post subject:  

Quote:


I looked at the Firepup and Firedog links but the download links are no longer valid.


you might personal message (pm) ttuuxxx , the creator of firepup, and see if he can repost it somewhere. He's a bit of a wizard with puppy, and super helpful too.

Quote:
Clicked on it, nothing happened. Rebooted. Same thing.


what exactly is the "it" you clicked?

what happens if you open a console and type
Code:
dillo
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PostPosted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 14:52    Post subject:  

I just checked, firepup seems to be available here:

http://puppylinuxnews.org/petstests/browser-suites-for-puppy-firedog-firepup/

so no need to write ttuuxxx right now Very Happy
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Lazy JW

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PostPosted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 15:23    Post subject:  

sfeeley wrote:
Quote:


I looked at the Firepup and Firedog links but the download links are no longer valid.



what exactly is the "it" you clicked?

what happens if you open a console and type
Code:
dillo

...I clicked the "Browse" icon, and also went to menu > internet > Dillo icon.Nothing happened. Just dead.

So, methinks perhaps the fact that Dillo is already installed may be messing things up a bit. Pulled out a Racy Puppy cd, which does not have Dillo, booted to Racy and installed the Dillo 3.0.2. Same thing, the icons do absolutely nothing when clicked.

Tried the console, got this:
# Dillo
bash: Dillo: command not found
# dillo
dillo: error while loading shared libraries: libjpeg.so.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#

The interesting thing is that I loaded the Links Browser and it works fine on both Lucid and Racy Puppys; I am typing this from the Links browser right now.
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PostPosted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 15:27    Post subject:  

Joe, Here is a dillo 3.0.2 made for lucid.

ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/dillo-3.0.2-lucid.pet
I have slightly tested it, but not https:.
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