Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 - Updated ISO Version 005 - APR 05 2012

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James C
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#1421 Post by James C »

lupulibre-5.2.8.005.iso live pfix=ram.Everything working ootb. LibreOffice is launching in about 1 second here so it seems plenty fast...... but I'm using a quad-core with lots of ram.I'll try it out on some slower hardware later though.Looks good so far.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid , version 528

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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Using the "nv" driver.

-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 2854MB (229MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.52
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 29 Mar 2012 01:30:51 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
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#1422 Post by playdayz »

NTFS-3g
USB 3.0
Updated Firmware
otropogo and OscarTalks, I wasn't focusing on these for this 005 update, and they will take some time to know what to do if anything, so they would be subject to a future update.
LibreOffice is launching in about 1 second here so it seems plenty fast..
Yes James C, but I so much like programs to open instantly ;-) I agree that for what you get 1 second is plenty fast. Now that I think about it, that is probably faster than MS Office opens in W7.

Chromium 20 for Lucid

Chromium is the open-source basis of the Google Chrome browser. As the development version is is in advance of the released stable version.
http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/Chromium-20-Lucid.pet
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Update on Broadcom proprietary drivers

#1423 Post by rerwin »

playdayz, cowboy and anyone with Broadcom wifi issues,
In support of peebee's compilations of the Broadcom proprietary driver, wl, I have created puppy components to manage the detection and activation of workarounds for the problem of its not supporting certain models of Broadcom wifi cards. This is an attempt to avoid user frustration from failure to detect supposedly supported models.

With the newer versions of the driver, versions 5.100..., models 4311 and 4312 may generate a "failure" message when the driver is used with them. The general solution is to avoid that version and substitute either the older proprietary driver, 5.60..., or the open-source driver, b43. Using a puppy "firmware tarball" containing module-changing- and initialization scripts as well as a modprobe configuration file, puppy can arrive at the correct driver for a particular wifi-card model. This will necessitate a second boot-up if the latest driver is insufficient.

Peebee has built a "combined" package containing the latest versions of the proprietary drivers (5.100... and 5.60...) and the firmware tarball to handle the workaround. To try that package, please download and install broadcom_sta_x86_32-k2.6.33_dual-version.pet from peebee's posting at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 360#609360
The package can be installed into any of the lupu 5.2.8 installations.

Here is what to expect after reboot with the package installed:
  • A new "eth?" network device may be detected.

    If no new device detected, a reboot should result in either an "eth?" or wlan0 device being detected.
Users should first try the reboot before concluding that some other action is necessary. Puppy does not explain that, so users should be advised to try that first.

Although I am not aware of any issues with the older proprietary driver, the logic can easily be updated (by me) to detect such a condition and trigger use of the open-source driver. So, users are urged to report any problem with that driver version. (Run pmodemdiag and post/PM its generated tar.gz file as soon as you see a problem.)

I would also like to know of any other problems with the seemingly troublesome Broadcom drivers (after installation of peebee's package), as my goal is to resolve as many as I can.
Richard

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#1424 Post by bones01 »

bigpup wrote:
To set LibreOffice Writer as the default word processor that opens by clicking the write icon on the desktop, you can right-click /usr/local/bin/defaltwordprocessor and choose Open as text. Then change abiword to swriter and Save.
I changed it to libreoffice and that worked for me.
This took ages to find, but glad I persevered. Bigpup, I had to change this to 'libreoffice3.5' to make it work.

At last it works!!

Bones
Dell Latitude D630 running Puppy 5.2.8 frugal, Macpup 525 frugal (if I can get it working again. Sadly, I couldn't get it fixed :? )
Precise Puppy 5.4 live DVD
Precise 5.7.3 on USB

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LupuLibre

#1425 Post by Volhout »

May be a good solution to include a web browser.

I know you will start a war, but if you have Lupu, LupuLibre, then why not a LupuLibreWeb.iso, where you include a default browser.

Volhout

may I suggest Chromium or Iron ?

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#1426 Post by ICPUG »

playdayz wrote: ICPUG, Do you mean Lupu Libre should contain hpliplite as Lupu Plus does?
Yes

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#1427 Post by playdayz »

To set LibreOffice Writer as the default word processor that opens by clicking the write icon on the desktop, you can right-click /usr/local/bin/defaltwordprocessor and choose Open as text. Then change abiword to swriter and Save.
bones01, There is also this pet that integrates the Libre Office word processor, spreadsheet, draw, and presentation programs
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 503#613503

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#1428 Post by nooby »

Wanted to use an old computer HP/Compaq d230 Celeron CPU
1.5GHz for test of odd Linux distros but seems too old.
Lupu 528 frugal install fails to get desktop after first set up settings
and the restart of xorg. Xwin never starts. I tested with 1024.x 768
because that is what the monitor expects. I guess I ahve to test with lower?
Puppy 431 do work with 1024.x 768 but I want a very modern Puppy.

HP d230 only have 247MB RAM so that is maybe too small? I should
try to add to at least 512MB

But I remember vaguely we have had many reporting on black screen
after restart? Or rather xwin never starts.

Or it can be something with the video card.

Would it work better with some otehr Puppy or why does xorg not start
It looks all okay when it start up then after the restart of xorg it never work

800 x 600 did survive a restart of xorg but voi what big text :)
Is it the low amount of RAM that makes it fail to start xorg?
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#1429 Post by James C »

nooby wrote:Wanted to use an old computer HP/Compaq d230 Celeron CPU
1.5GHz for test of odd Linux distros but seems too old.
Lupu 528 frugal install fails to get desktop after first set up settings
and the restart of xorg. Xwin never starts. I tested with 1024.x 768
because that is what the monitor expects. I guess I ahve to test with lower?
Puppy 431 do work with 1024.x 768 but I want a very modern Puppy.

HP d230 only have 247MB RAM so that is maybe too small? I should
try to add to at least 512MB

But I remember vaguely we have had many reporting on black screen
after restart? Or rather xwin never starts.

Or it can be something with the video card.

Would it work better with some otehr Puppy or why does xorg not start
It looks all okay when it start up then after the restart of xorg it never work

800 x 600 did survive a restart of xorg but voi what big text :)
Is it the low amount of RAM that makes it fail to start xorg?
Try checking for the correct video drivers. Quickpet, then click on "drivers" then the test video button. There may be updated drivers available for your computer.
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#1430 Post by majorfoo »

Full Install of Lucilibre-5.2.8-005 on Pent 4, 2.8ghz cpu, 2gb mem

Using stopwatch, takes 3.45 to 3.55 sec to open writer..
Abiword is almost instant, however, I like libreoffice better

Guess libreoffice -writer takes longer because it is much larger program

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#1431 Post by nooby »

Thanks James C,
I will try a better computer with better graphics and more memory instead.
And move this internal HD over to that one and get 1GB RAM instead.
Sadly that one is more noisy and I hate fan noise.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#1432 Post by bigpup »

majorfoo wrote:Full Install of Lucilibre-5.2.8-005 on Pent 4, 2.8ghz cpu, 2gb mem

Using stopwatch, takes 3.45 to 3.55 sec to open writer..
Abiword is almost instant, however, I like libreoffice better

Guess libreoffice -writer takes longer because it is much larger program
Found this about slow start-up time, cause and solution.
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/glo ... 14172.html

Also found references to 3 to 5 sec. start time as the normal now. Older versions took 20 to 30 sec. to start.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#1433 Post by DC »

re: lupu-libre-5.2.8-005

Hi,

Would Libreoffice auto update? (can't test as its up to date)

DC

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#1434 Post by playdayz »

Using stopwatch, takes 3.45 to 3.55 sec to open writer..
Abiword is almost instant, however, I like libreoffice better
I am afraid that is probably normal for Libre. On my 2.5GHz quad core, it takes about 3 seconds to start *the first time in a session* Subsequent startups are faster, around 1 second. As BigPup says, that is a big improvement over previously. Libre is installed in default locations so it may update *except* the update would use space in the save file--Libre is 400 MB so if it was all replaced that would put a huge dent in the save file--the default of which is 512MB.

Yes, Abiword is instant ;-) Abiword in the new Lupus is defaulting to saving in odt (opendocument) instead of abw--I hope that may be more reliable for saving and opening documents.

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Google Chrome 18 for Lucid - It has its own Flashplayer built in.

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#1435 Post by majorfoo »

playdayz wrote:
I am afraid that is probably normal for Libre. On my 2.5GHz quad core, it takes about 3 seconds to start *the first time in a session* Subsequent startups are faster, around 1 second. As BigPup says, that is a big improvement over previously. Libre is installed in default locations so it may update *except* the update would use space in the save file--Libre is 400 MB so if it was all replaced that would put a huge dent in the save file--the default of which is 512MB.

Yes, Abiword is instant ;-) Abiword in the new Lupus is defaulting to saving in odt (opendocument) instead of abw--I hope that may be more reliable for saving and opening documents.
I am using this on a full install and can live with the short delay on startup. This is better than trying to use the bloated MS Office 2010 and beyond.

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#1436 Post by cthisbear »

Lucid Plus.

Nice to see that this opened an ISO file immediately.

Best I have seen after Saluki.

Should be a Puppy standard.
When you are used to running >> 7zip >> in Windows
you get spoilt.

Anyway....a nice find.

Chris.

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#1437 Post by don570 »

I've written two right click programms
that might be of interest.

One creates empty files with a right click on a folder

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 796#616796


the other is general utilty to rename files etc.

rename-files

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 256#616256

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Lucid 5.2.8.005

#1438 Post by playdayz »

Lucid 5.2.8.005 Sanity Check

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/lupu-528.005.iso
c6d77fb54c88d6c55704f2ba679c783c

ffconvert 1.2 - shinobar; sfs-load 1.3 - shinobar; PupControl 2.0 - radky; Sylpheed 3.1.3 - playdayz; mtpaint 3.44.3 - don570; PupApps 1.8 - radky; PupSnap 1.6.3 - radky; pprocess 2.2.4 - zigbert; Pburn 3.5.1 - zigbert; firewallstate 2.1 - tasmod; grub4dos 1.7.2 - shinobar; isomaster 1.3.9 - BarryK; pbackup 3.1.9 - zigbert; pfilesearch 1.28 - zigbert; pfind 4.25 - zigbert; PupClockset 1.9 - radky; PupSysinfo 2.1.4 - radky; Bacon Recorder 2.7 - don570; dillo 3.0.2 - playdayz; geany 0.21 - playdayz

New Programs -> PupMenu 1.0 - radky; getflash 0.9 - shinobar

Fixed -> guvcview 1.4.1-1 (the previous version would often crash if changing video size and capturing)

Abiword with working Help
Abiword defaults to saving in .odt (opendocument) to address problems of failing to open abw documents it had saved
Homebank with working Help
gvfs 1.6.1 installed to enable Help - gvfs is the Gnome way to access http://, file:///, etc.

BigPup did a lot of detective work to get the Help working in Homebank. We found that not only did gvfs have to be installed, but also Firefox had to be installed and FF had to install itself as "default browser" which is different than the Puppy defaultbrowser. But the Help works with all browsers now. And now all of the desktop icon programs have working Help (and many of the menu programs).

Sanity Check means this is it unless something terrible turns up quickly.

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#1439 Post by jim3630 »

528.005 frugal install to ext4 hdd pfix=ram on dual p6100 hp laptop.
broadcom sta_5.6.48.36-k2.6.33.2pet installed with wl wifi driver detected on eth1.
Broadcom Corporation BCM4313. connection wizard used without issue.

will continue testing. thanks

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PS/2 mouse didn't work

#1440 Post by jpr »

Tried Lucid Puppy-528.004 Live CD on Dell Latitude C840, and the optical PS/2 mouse didn't work. However the PS/2 keyboard did work.

Also had problems with a hadware-based USB modem.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 087#617087

Cheers.

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