Dillo Again

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Lazy JW
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Dillo Again

#1 Post by Lazy JW »

Howdy All,
Still playing with Dillo; certain websites require the use of HTTPS support. I get the following message:

The https dpi was unable to send the following HTTP query: (Quote)

GET/HTTP/1.1
Connection: close
Accept: text/*,image/*/*;q=0.2
Accept-Charset: utf-8,*,q=0.8
Accept-Encoding: gzip
Host: www.gmail.com
Referer:https://www.gmail.com/
User-Agent: Dillo/2.2.1
because Dillo's prototype plugin for https support is disabled.

If you want to test this alpha support code, just reconfigure with --enable-ssl, recompile and reinstall. (beware that this https support is very limited now) To use https and SSL, you must have the OpenSSL development libraries installed. Check your O/S distribution provider, or check out www.openssl.org. (End Quote)

So it looks like I have several steps to take:
1. Download and install OpenSSL
2. Figure out where and how to do Step #1.
3. Learn how to reconfigure.
4. Learn how to recompile.
5. Learn how to reinstall.
6. And probably some unforseen learning.

I do realize that the version of Dillo supplied with my Lucid 528 is outdated, perhaps I should start with downloading the newest version? Not quite sure where to begin.
Joe

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#2 Post by sfeeley »

AOpen motherboard, P4 CPU, 1 GB ram. two 40 Gig Maxtor HDD's booting
FreeDos, XP, Linux Mint, Ubuntu, and Slacko (frugal install) with
Grub4Dos bootloader.

I booted to Lucid 5.2.8 because it has Dillo installed. Some of the web
sites I visit require cookies.
I recognize that you want a lightweight browser. And I'm sure that you will get help with Dillo. The steps you outline above are pretty lengthy though, and might be frustrating if you are just getting started on puppy.

That said, have you tried other browsers? I've had opera and firefox run pretty well on worse computers with lousy connections.

Also consider firepup. Its a stripped down version of an old version firefox that used to run crazy fast on one of my old computers.
It rendered pages much better than dillo in my experience too.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34876

firedog is a bit bigger--I've not used it, but also optimized for speed and weight.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48254
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34876

just click on the pet to install either of these, and you should get something useable running in no time

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#3 Post by Lazy JW »

sfeeley wrote:
AOpen motherboard, P4 CPU, 1 GB ram. two 40 Gig Maxtor HDD's booting
FreeDos, XP, Linux Mint, Ubuntu, and Slacko (frugal install) with
Grub4Dos bootloader.

I booted to Lucid 5.2.8 because it has Dillo installed. Some of the web
sites I visit require cookies.
I recognize that you want a lightweight browser. And I'm sure that you will get help with Dillo. The steps you outline above are pretty lengthy though, and might be frustrating if you are just getting started on puppy.

That said, have you tried other browsers? I've had opera and firefox run pretty well on worse computers with lousy connections.

Also consider firepup. Its a stripped down version of an old version firefox that used to run crazy fast on one of my old computers.
It rendered pages much better than dillo in my experience too.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34876

firedog is a bit bigger--I've not used it, but also optimized for speed and weight.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48254
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34876

just click on the pet to install either of these, and you should get something useable running in no time
Thanks for the links, I'll give them a try. I would like to learn more about using Puppy, and thrashing through something like Dillo may take some time but should be educational.
Joe

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#4 Post by sfeeley »

I would like to learn more about using Puppy, and thrashing through something like Dillo may take some time but should be educational.
the very best sort of attitude.

BTW-- if you are successful in your Dillo quest, please be sure to post your results and method. A more functional dillo may be quite useful for many.

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#5 Post by Lazy JW »

So, a while back I had downloaded Dillo 3.0.2 while I was on a fast network and put it on my thumb drive. I just now dragged it from my thumb drive into the ~ folder alongside of the existing Dillo file. Obviously, this does not an install make. How do I go about actually installing Dillo 3.0.2?
Joe

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#6 Post by sfeeley »

generally the easiest way to install something in puppy is with a .pet file. Simply download it then click it.
To find these:
1) try looking with the puppy package manager. You _might_ want to update it first (hit the configure button, and make choices, then restart the package manager-- warning update can take a while).

2) often unofficial pets can be found by looking in the forum. In fact these are often more up to date. Looking through the forums I found this thread which contains a dillo pet that should work for you.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 7e0c6f2db7

the thread also contains some discussion of getting dillo to work with java, but apparently that went nowhere.

There is a thread giving tips for how to search the forum near the top of the beginners page.

caveat: since an older version of dillo is already built into most puppies, I'm not sure if downloading the pet mentioned above will remove the old one, or what.

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#7 Post by sfeeley »

adding to the list of ultra light browsers that you might try:

links browser
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72044

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#8 Post by Lazy JW »

sfeeley wrote:... a dillo pet that should work for you.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 7e0c6f2db7
...

caveat: since an older version of dillo is already built into most puppies, I'm not sure if downloading the pet mentioned above will remove the old one, or what.
Thanks for the tips.
I downloaded the indicated pet and installed it. The little popup stated that it was installed successfully. Clicked on it, nothing happened. Rebooted. Same thing.

Perhaps the original Dillo installation is interfering? So I deleted it. Nothing. Deleted the new Dillo, then reinstalled. Same thing. Downloaded the new Dillo again and installed. Once again, it said that all went well but no joy.

I looked in ~/.dillo and it only shows two files, bm.txt and style.css. The old one had several more files, so I think this one is incomplete.
Joe

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#9 Post by Semme »

Hi Joe, start Dillo from a shell and forward the output- she mus'be missing something..

Likewise you could dump: ldd /usr/bin/dillo

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#10 Post by Lazy JW »

sfeeley wrote:adding to the list of ultra light browsers that you might try:

links browser
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72044
I just installed Links and it semms to work ok. I need to play with it a bit to explore its abilities.

I looked at the Firepup and Firedog links but the download links are no longer valid. I may try Opera next.
Thanks for the help,
Joe

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#11 Post by Semme »

Op's worth a shot fer sure..

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#12 Post by sfeeley »


I looked at the Firepup and Firedog links but the download links are no longer valid.
you might personal message (pm) ttuuxxx , the creator of firepup, and see if he can repost it somewhere. He's a bit of a wizard with puppy, and super helpful too.
Clicked on it, nothing happened. Rebooted. Same thing.
what exactly is the "it" you clicked?

what happens if you open a console and type

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dillo

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#13 Post by sfeeley »

I just checked, firepup seems to be available here:

http://puppylinuxnews.org/petstests/bro ... g-firepup/

so no need to write ttuuxxx right now :D

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#14 Post by Lazy JW »

sfeeley wrote:

I looked at the Firepup and Firedog links but the download links are no longer valid.

what exactly is the "it" you clicked?

what happens if you open a console and type

Code: Select all

dillo
...I clicked the "Browse" icon, and also went to menu > internet > Dillo icon.Nothing happened. Just dead.

So, methinks perhaps the fact that Dillo is already installed may be messing things up a bit. Pulled out a Racy Puppy cd, which does not have Dillo, booted to Racy and installed the Dillo 3.0.2. Same thing, the icons do absolutely nothing when clicked.

Tried the console, got this:
# Dillo
bash: Dillo: command not found
# dillo
dillo: error while loading shared libraries: libjpeg.so.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#

The interesting thing is that I loaded the Links Browser and it works fine on both Lucid and Racy Puppys; I am typing this from the Links browser right now.
Joe

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#15 Post by playdayz »

Joe, Here is a dillo 3.0.2 made for lucid.

ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet ... -lucid.pet
I have slightly tested it, but not https:.

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#16 Post by Lazy JW »

playdayz wrote:Joe, Here is a dillo 3.0.2 made for lucid.

ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet ... -lucid.pet
I have slightly tested it, but not https:.
Thanks, I downloaded this Dillo and it installed perfectly. I am typing this from the new Dillo. Now to see what it will (or won't) do.
Joe

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#17 Post by Lazy JW »

I've spent about four hours now searching the forum and the web, trying figure out how to enable the https in Dillo.

In the Dillo FAQ it states: (Quote)
If you want to enable it (e.g to read forums in https), then use

./configure --enable-ssl

Then recompile and reinstall. (End Quote)

How do I actually do this? Where do I go to edit this? I tried the console (didn't work) and tried looking in dillorc but couldn't really figure it out.

Anyone have any hints?
Thanks,
Joe

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#18 Post by Peterm321 »

Lazy JW wrote: In the Dillo FAQ it states: (Quote)
If you want to enable it (e.g to read forums in https), then use

./configure --enable-ssl

Then recompile and reinstall. (End Quote)

How do I actually do this? Where do I go to edit this? I tried the console (didn't work) and tried looking in dillorc but couldn't really figure it out.

Anyone have any hints?
Thanks,
Joe
Dear Joe

Compiling is rather involved. For PL, it means downloading devxxx sfs (squashed file system) modules for the particular PL version you have. For information on compiling there is a particular forum:

Forum index » Advanced Topics » Additional Software (PETs, n' stuff) » compiling
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php?f=66


I'm not sure if I would want to try compiling Dillo myself, it would appear it would need various dependencies and fixes. You could also search the forums and see if there is an ssl enabled version already available, there is also a forum for requests. As other replies indicate there are alternate lightweight browsers that may offer something. Dillo is very fast for basic rendering of pages but perhaps not as suitable for webmail sites etc that tend to rely on CSS/JavaScript and so on.

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#19 Post by Lazy JW »

Thanks for the reply, Peterm321. It looks like this one is a bit over my head for now. I'm back in school now for Spring Quarter (Biomedical Equipment Repair) so I'm going to be too busy for the next few months to try learning something this involved.

I have been using Opera, and it seems to be significantly faster than the heavyweights on my slow satellite internet (it's faster than dialup but not by very much). The desire for a lightweight dialup browser was an attempt to help some relatives who are stuck with dialup for the time being. Reckon they will just have to wait.

Thanks to all who chimed in to help, I really like Opera thus far. I will re-visit this idea later.
Joe

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#20 Post by Atle »

Hello Joe...

I used to be on very slow lines my self...

For me Firefox was the solution...

The version MUST be able to run ImageBlock addon for Firefox as a minimum. Might not be supported in the latest versions..

Then off course adblock, flashblock and disable " Firefox prefetch"

To stop all java or scripts, NoScripts is also good.

Then you have a scaled down Firefox where you can customize your internet experience, but also browse at a very low cost using mobile connections etc.

To disable Firefox updates is also important.

also i quickly came learned to DOWNLOAD flash video, instead of streaming it, due to slow lines and lagging.

As for Puppy Linux there is no such thing as any automatic updates so your in full control.

Also I learned not to write emails while being online, or even reading them, as once paying pr MB of internet usage, your money is lost little by little just by the connection being present, so I just went in to my webmail, copied the text over to AbiWord, read it there and made the reply offline, went online and pasted it. In this way i saved HUGE amounts of small money every day and my internet bundle went like ten times more fare:-)

I prefer a scaled down Firefox, due to bookmarks and also the fact that you might be somewhere sometimes where there is free and faster internet, so you can turn on the heavy stuff as images...

Atle

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