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BarryK
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| James C wrote: | Fresh frugal install of 5.2.91. All basics working on initial boot.
Only problems are those mentioned earlier .... not really that big of a deal.As long as the PPM and browsers work I guess I can live without Wget.....  |
I think that I sent you a pm to try the '-4' option with wget. Have you tried that?
That is, insert '-4' like this:
# wget -4 <url>
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scsijon
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| Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 03:52 Post subject:
Re: Any chance of a faster place to download Wary/Racy. |
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| Pete22 wrote: | At other download sites for puppies: I can get similar sized puppies in about 4 minutes My brother can download them about as fast as he can click his mouse.
It takes more than 20 minutes to download a standard sized puppy from the ibiblio site, no matter how fast our personal connections are.
Would you consider allowing wary/racy to also be hosted at one of these faster download locations?
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I sugest that you check with your local university to see if they are mirroring some part of ibiblio, if so it should be easy to get them to add a couple of extra's (puppylinux and quirky) if they are not already doing so. You can also always try M.I.T. or Berkley.
ibiblio has been slow for some time now, I've found that http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/ is often much faster than ibiblio when my local http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/, here in australia has had problems.
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James C
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| Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 04:02 Post subject:
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| BarryK wrote: | | James C wrote: | Fresh frugal install of 5.2.91. All basics working on initial boot.
Only problems are those mentioned earlier .... not really that big of a deal.As long as the PPM and browsers work I guess I can live without Wget..... |
I think that I sent you a pm to try the '-4' option with wget. Have you tried that?
That is, insert '-4' like this:
# wget -4 <url> |
Been busy and forgot .......
Let's try to download Flash.....
| Code: | # wget -4 http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
--2012-03-31 03:01:37-- http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
Resolving fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)... 184.87.2.70
Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)|184.87.2.70|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 6746733 (6.4M) [application/x-gzip]
Saving to: `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz'
100%[======================================>] 6,746,733 159K/s in 42s
2012-03-31 03:02:18 (158 KB/s) - `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz' saved [6746733/6746733]
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BarryK
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| Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 04:03 Post subject:
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Find some bugs guys!
I am merrily using this pup, and apart from a couple of little things that I found right off, all is well. :happy:
There is the mysterious wget/ping failure problem, that so far has only affected one person.
I have some updated langpacks that I will upload soon:
fr 20120330 (esmourguit)
pl 20120327 (robwoj44)
I want to freeze everything, essential bug fixes only. Hold over unessential changes to later. Maybe can get the 5.3-final out in a couple of days?
Anyway, please play with the apps, let us know if anything crashes and burns.
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L18L
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| Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 04:09 Post subject:
Wary/Racy 5.3RC2 (5.2.91) |
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Found a little thing, too
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BarryK
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| James C wrote: | | BarryK wrote: | | James C wrote: | Fresh frugal install of 5.2.91. All basics working on initial boot.
Only problems are those mentioned earlier .... not really that big of a deal.As long as the PPM and browsers work I guess I can live without Wget..... |
I think that I sent you a pm to try the '-4' option with wget. Have you tried that?
That is, insert '-4' like this:
# wget -4 <url> |
Been busy and forgot .......
Let's try to download Flash.....
| Code: | # wget -4 http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
--2012-03-31 03:01:37-- http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
Resolving fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)... 184.87.2.70
Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)|184.87.2.70|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 6746733 (6.4M) [application/x-gzip]
Saving to: `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz'
100%[======================================>] 6,746,733 159K/s in 42s
2012-03-31 03:02:18 (158 KB/s) - `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz' saved [6746733/6746733]
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Success.Glad you reminded me.... |
Good. /usr/sbin/delayedrun calls /usr/sbin/download_file to download the flash player, and this already has the '-4' parameter for wget.
The -4 forces wget to use ipv4 instead of the default of ipv6 (in recent versions of wget).
So the only remaining problem is with 'ping'. Earlier on I looked at the ping man page here:
http://linux.die.net/man/8/ping
...which does not even mention ipv4 or ipv6.
However, I have just down another search, and found an example that uses -4 with ping:
# ping -4 www.google.com
...please try this!
...in fact, if it solves the problem I will put that option into the script permanently.
...if anyone tries this and it doesn't work for you, let me know that too.
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James C
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| Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 04:27 Post subject:
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| BarryK wrote: | | James C wrote: | | BarryK wrote: | | James C wrote: | Fresh frugal install of 5.2.91. All basics working on initial boot.
Only problems are those mentioned earlier .... not really that big of a deal.As long as the PPM and browsers work I guess I can live without Wget..... |
I think that I sent you a pm to try the '-4' option with wget. Have you tried that?
That is, insert '-4' like this:
# wget -4 <url> |
Been busy and forgot .......
Let's try to download Flash.....
| Code: | # wget -4 http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
--2012-03-31 03:01:37-- http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
Resolving fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)... 184.87.2.70
Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)|184.87.2.70|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 6746733 (6.4M) [application/x-gzip]
Saving to: `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz'
100%[======================================>] 6,746,733 159K/s in 42s
2012-03-31 03:02:18 (158 KB/s) - `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz' saved [6746733/6746733]
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Success.Glad you reminded me.... |
Good. /usr/sbin/delayedrun calls /usr/sbin/download_file to download the flash player, and this already has the '-4' parameter for wget.
The -4 forces wget to use ipv4 instead of the default of ipv6 (in recent versions of wget).
So the only remaining problem is with 'ping'. Earlier on I looked at the ping man page here:
http://linux.die.net/man/8/ping
...which does not even mention ipv4 or ipv6.
However, I have just down another search, and found an example that uses -4 with ping:
# ping -4 www.google.com
...please try this!
...in fact, if it solves the problem I will put that option into the script permanently.
...if anyone tries this and it doesn't work for you, let me know that too. |
Success again.
| Code: | # ping -4 www.google.com
PING www.google.com (74.125.130.105): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=0 ttl=47 time=54.372 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=1 ttl=47 time=54.576 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=2 ttl=47 time=53.047 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=3 ttl=47 time=54.248 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=4 ttl=47 time=53.920 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=5 ttl=47 time=54.361 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=6 ttl=47 time=54.549 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=7 ttl=47 time=53.557 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=8 ttl=47 time=54.242 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=9 ttl=47 time=53.940 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=10 ttl=47 time=54.443 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=11 ttl=47 time=54.399 ms
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Some of the "other" distros use ipv6 by default in their browsers and it's necessary to disable it before I can even get online.
Believe that solves my little problem. Thanks.
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BarryK
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| Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 04:36 Post subject:
Re: Wary/Racy 5.3RC2 (5.2.91) |
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| L18L wrote: | | Found a little thing, too |
Good, a bug! Thanks, I fixed it.
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BarryK
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| Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 04:59 Post subject:
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| James C wrote: | | BarryK wrote: | | James C wrote: | | BarryK wrote: | | James C wrote: | Fresh frugal install of 5.2.91. All basics working on initial boot.
Only problems are those mentioned earlier .... not really that big of a deal.As long as the PPM and browsers work I guess I can live without Wget..... |
I think that I sent you a pm to try the '-4' option with wget. Have you tried that?
That is, insert '-4' like this:
# wget -4 <url> |
Been busy and forgot .......
Let's try to download Flash.....
| Code: | # wget -4 http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
--2012-03-31 03:01:37-- http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
Resolving fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)... 184.87.2.70
Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)|184.87.2.70|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 6746733 (6.4M) [application/x-gzip]
Saving to: `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz'
100%[======================================>] 6,746,733 159K/s in 42s
2012-03-31 03:02:18 (158 KB/s) - `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz' saved [6746733/6746733]
# |
Success.Glad you reminded me.... |
Good. /usr/sbin/delayedrun calls /usr/sbin/download_file to download the flash player, and this already has the '-4' parameter for wget.
The -4 forces wget to use ipv4 instead of the default of ipv6 (in recent versions of wget).
So the only remaining problem is with 'ping'. Earlier on I looked at the ping man page here:
http://linux.die.net/man/8/ping
...which does not even mention ipv4 or ipv6.
However, I have just down another search, and found an example that uses -4 with ping:
# ping -4 www.google.com
...please try this!
...in fact, if it solves the problem I will put that option into the script permanently.
...if anyone tries this and it doesn't work for you, let me know that too. |
Success again.
| Code: | # ping -4 www.google.com
PING www.google.com (74.125.130.105): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=0 ttl=47 time=54.372 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=1 ttl=47 time=54.576 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=2 ttl=47 time=53.047 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=3 ttl=47 time=54.248 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=4 ttl=47 time=53.920 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=5 ttl=47 time=54.361 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=6 ttl=47 time=54.549 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=7 ttl=47 time=53.557 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=8 ttl=47 time=54.242 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=9 ttl=47 time=53.940 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=10 ttl=47 time=54.443 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=11 ttl=47 time=54.399 ms
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Some of the "other" distros use ipv6 by default in their browsers and it's necessary to disable it before I can even get online.
Believe that solves my little problem. Thanks. |
Another bug bites the dust!
"ping -4" doesn't seem to do any harm. Hopefully no one will report that it messes things up for them.
I have put the -4 option for ping into these scripts:
Pudd, check_internet, video_upgrade_wizard.
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| Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 05:10 Post subject:
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No problems with the latest Flash in either SeaMonkey or Opera.
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Sage
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The disappearing sr0 icon is back in Wary, the default overdriven resolution (1600x1200) remains in Racy (and Saluki).
PS. Thanks, Terri - started up 5x d/l from ibiblio, four were showing 2+ hrs, but one managed it in 15mins!
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L18L
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| Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 07:16 Post subject:
Re: Puppy-Setup: change to UTF-8 does not get permanent |
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| BarryK wrote: | | L18L wrote: | | LaRioja wrote: | I have installed Racy 5.2.90 on my AMD LE 1250 box and chose German locale in the Quick Setup but I accidentally did not tick UTF-8 Encoding. I changed this later in Puppy-Setup, but it doesn't get permanent. So on every reboot I have to change to UTF-8 again.
Is there something wrong?
Thanks for a hint. |
Yes, there is something wrong, I have been trying to reproduce this in a similiar way.
racy 5.2.90 pfix=ram
chosen LANG: de_DE (without utf8)
saved to a new save file called racysave-de_DE.2fs
then reboot
and chosen racysave-de_DE.2fs
# cat /proc/cmdline
video=640x480 root=/dev/sda3 ro vga=normal pdev1=sda3
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# echo $LANG
de_DE.UTF-8
#
repeated chooselocale (de_DE) several times
My observation:
change to non-UTF-8 does not get permanent
I don´t think this is specific to German.
Other languages, please test: changing to/from utf-8
Hope this will help locating the bug |
I am not having any problem.
Running as a German user, I used quickcountry (symlink to quicksetup) to untick and tick the UTF-8 checkbox. There was no problem.
The problem may occur if you altered the initrd.gz the first time, to say de_DE-UTF-8, then that will be used at a reboot. QuickCountry/QuickSetup will offer to change the initrd.gz if you change the UTF-8 checkbox. |
I like to confirm:
No problem if the offer to change initrd.gz is accepted !
Example: Change from de_AT to de_AT.utf8 only permanent if changed initrd.gz.
This leads to the idea:
I have decided wrong and LaRioja has decided wrong.
Why ask the user?
Always change it please without asking 
edit:
I have run xorgwizard without utf8, our (shinobar´s) trick OUTPUT_CHARSET=UTF-8 did not work in console 
this is leading to the next ( old ) idea:
make utf8 default without exceptions for non English
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shinobar
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| Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 08:29 Post subject:
locale in initrd.gz |
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| BarryK wrote: | | The problem may occur if you altered the initrd.gz the first time, to say de_DE-UTF-8, then that will be used at a reboot. QuickCountry/QuickSetup will offer to change the initrd.gz if you change the UTF-8 checkbox. |
I suppose it is not good idea changing the initrd.gz unless remastering, because it is hard to see the changed status for usual users.
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sszindian
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| Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 14:28 Post subject:
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Test: Racy-5.2.91
Type: Upgrade from Racy-5.2.90
Results:
(1) Everything went well and all previous installed files and .pet's were intact, and working.
(2) My original desktop configuration was completly changed back to the Racy 'default desktop.'
(3) Seamonkey browser remained at version 2.5 when it was changed back to that from 2.6 in a previous upgrade to 5-2-90??? I have no idea what the correct version should be for 5-2-91?
(4) WiFi (wireless Internet) setup easily and is working great finally.
(5) Overall, it looks like a winner without any problems from testing various areas and programs...
Will be using Racy for the next several days and will report if any problems come up.
>>>---Indian------>
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James C
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| Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 14:59 Post subject:
Re: 5.2.91 |
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| sszindian wrote: |
(3) Seamonkey browser remained at version 2.5 when it was changed back to that from 2.6 in a previous upgrade to 5-2-90??? I have no idea what the correct version should be for 5-2-91?
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Installed browser in 5.2.91 is 2.6.1.
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