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shinobar


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PostPosted: Sat 24 Mar 2012, 22:00    Post subject: getflash-0.8 has serious bug  
v0.8 and older has serious bug. Update or uninstall the getflash is requested to all the users and distributors.
# v0.9 - 25 Mar 2012 shinobar: fix was the ownership under /usr messing up
getflash-0.9.pet
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http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=74491

Detail:
The ownership under /usr is changed to '501.guest' when you installed the flashplayer using the getflash v0.8 and older.
Check the ownership by typing 'ls -l /usr' on a virtual terminal(all 'root root' is normal).
To repair the ownership, issue a command:
(for frugal install)
# chown root.root -R /initrd/pup_rw/usr
For frugal install on usb/ata flash, also need:
# chown root.root -R /initrd/pup_ro1/usr
Reboot after the above command.
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Brown Mouse


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PostPosted: Sun 25 Mar 2012, 09:45    Post subject:  
mavrothal wrote:
Lobster wrote:
I was able to access the ipad 3 with Slacko 5.3.1 - anyone try with the beta2 or earlier ipads?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=613970#613970
gphoto2 is being used

but what command is used to probe/mount a USB port
to get into the ipad? Any ideas? Smile


.
Alternatively run iTunes over WINE.


Unfortunately this doesn't seem to work.
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2012, 12:04    Post subject:  
i managed to get some pets i made for lucid, working on slacko....

gtk-youtube-viewer http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76835

get_iplayer http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=73497
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yordanj94

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2012, 12:17    Post subject: pmount  
Hi.
Slacko is great on my Dell Latitude c610.
The only thing that confuse me is that every time i mount any "sfs" file or any partition
my inserted live DVD starts spinning and stops after about a minute.
This DVD is not mounted after Slacko is loaded,but always reacts by spinning.
This never happens with Lupq-511 or Saluki.
I use laptop on battery most of the time and this reduce its working time.
All the rest is so far great.
Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 19:34    Post subject:  
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012, 17:49    Post subject: Re: pmount  
yordanj94 wrote:
Hi.
Slacko is great on my Dell Latitude c610.
The only thing that confuse me is that every time i mount any "sfs" file or any partition
my inserted live DVD starts spinning and stops after about a minute.
This DVD is not mounted after Slacko is loaded,but always reacts by spinning.
This never happens with Lupq-511 or Saluki.
I use laptop on battery most of the time and this reduce its working time.
All the rest is so far great.
Thanks in advance.
I'm not the best person to answer this.

Edited: This is the case on some of the distros. I have noticed that in some distros, too, if I insert/remove a USB key the CD-DVD will spin up, too.

I have NOT observed any harm in this, but, yes, it does occur.

Hope this helps
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012, 19:04    Post subject: Re: Opened Tray On Shutdown  
shinobar wrote:
duke93535 wrote:
This is on Slacko 5.3.2.7.

On a shutdown, I don’t like having my DVD tray opened automatically when there is a CD in it. I don’t like the idea of manually closing it, but don’t want it setting open on a turned off computer. I remarked out line 1271 to 1285 and stopped this action in /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown.

You did not need to do so.
Run the 'pupsaveconfig'. You can find 'Eject CD' checkbox.


Tried that, doesn't work on my system (LiveCD boot with pupsave on USB stick). If I deselect the tickbox, hit OK, and then run Pupsaveconfig again, the box is still shown as ticked, It appears that the state of the box is completely ignored.

To be frank, I think that automatically ejecting CDs on shutdown shouldn't be enabled by default, even assuming that the utility to toggle the function actually worked.

Other than that moan, 5.3.2.7 is still looking pretty good, I think we're at the fine-tuning stage here.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012, 21:55    Post subject: Re: Opened Tray On Shutdown  
Jades wrote:
Tried that, doesn't work on my system (LiveCD boot with pupsave on USB stick). If I deselect the tickbox, hit OK, and then run Pupsaveconfig again, the box is still shown as ticked, It appears that the state of the box is completely ignored.

Confirmed the bug in the GUI. It doen't work for the savefile on USB stick. (OK for internal HDD)
Instead, open the file '/etc/rc.d/pupsave.conf' by the text editor.
Code:
EJECTCD=true
Rewrite to:
Code:
EJECTCD=false

Once you rewrite, it should persists.
EDIT(tnx to Jades): If the file /etc/rc.d/pupsave.conf does not exist, create new with one line 'EJECTCD=false'.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:30    Post subject:  
Both @Jades and @Shinobar address a very good point.

I'm not sure if this the correct thread to address this, but, on a Shudown, I would agree that the Live Media CD/DVD tray should not open awaiting a response to complete shutdown. I have thought this over and cannot find a good reason. On a reboot, YES, the user may want the option to reload media for reboot. But, on Shutdown, I cannot see a adequate reason.

I think the logic could/should be corrected for all users.

If this post should be move so that Barry and others can see it so that its included, please move it appropriately.

Hope this helps
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 13:33    Post subject: Re: Opened Tray On Shutdown  
shinobar wrote:
Jades wrote:
Tried that, doesn't work on my system (LiveCD boot with pupsave on USB stick). If I deselect the tickbox, hit OK, and then run Pupsaveconfig again, the box is still shown as ticked, It appears that the state of the box is completely ignored.

Confirmed the bug in the GUI. It doen't work for the savefile on USB stick.(OK for internal HDD)


Done some more checking, I've just created a brand new save file on mine and it remembered the setting. I'd selected it on the initial Pupsave config and every time I've shut it down it's powered down without ejecting the discs.

shinobar wrote:
Instead, open the file '/etc/rc.d/pupsave.conf' by the text editor.


File is missing, on both of the Live CD installs I checked. Both of these were originally created on Slacko 5.3.2.4 and have been upgraded a couple of times. Running PupSaveConfig from the menu, clearing the tick box, and hitting OK does not result in the file being created. Upgrade problem maybe?

shinobar wrote:
Code:
EJECTCD=true
Rewrite to:
Code:
EJECTCD=false

Once you rewrite, it should persists.


It did on the newly created save, On the files originating from 5.3.2.4 manually creating pupsave.conf and adding the line EJECTCD=false had the desired effect.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 14:34    Post subject:  
Interestingly, if I change both the settings for save period and Eject CD on PupSaveConfig then it does update /etc/rc.d/pupsave.conf and even creates this file on the two saves where it was missing. It's only when Eject CD is the only setting altered that nothing is changed.

The upgrade routine should check whether pupsave.conf is present, and if it isn't create one defaulting to EJECTCD=false - anyone who does want the discs ejected can always change the setting.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 22:30    Post subject: open tray at shutdown  
Jades wrote:
Interestingly, if I change both the settings for save period and Eject CD on PupSaveConfig then it does update /etc/rc.d/pupsave.conf and even creates this file on the two saves where it was missing. It's only when Eject CD is the only setting altered that nothing is changed.

Right. It is the bug.

BTW
For the base of the discussion, note that the default behavior of the pupsaveconfig is opening the tray without dialog only at shutdown:
  • Default
    Reboot: keep the media
    Power off: open tray without dialog (if can. it cannot for small RAM because it fails to unmount.)
  • EJECTCD=false
    Both reboot and power off: keep the media
  • Multisession (no matter the EJECTCD value)
    Both reboot and power off: keep or remove with dialog

I would like to show you what we discussed on the Japanese Forum:
  • Why we remove the media at shutdown?
    Someone may want to keep the media in the drive. Re-loading the media at next boot is inconvenient for them.
    Another may want to remove them at shutdown. It is hard to remove the media after powered off.
  • Why we keep the tray opened at shutdown?
    You have a choice to keep or remove the media. You can close the tray manually. But hard to open the tray without power.
  • Why without dialog?
    The PC can be powered off by the power button when it hangs up. Suppose some trouble with the keyboard or the display but the acpid is working.

Well, we can offer a dialog for the removing media yes or no, with some timeout, default is 'yes'(remove).
But isn't it annoying?
May be the point is which is more annoying the dialog or the closing the tray manually...
Another point is whether it harms the hardware with closing the tray manually(for the desktop PC's). I think it harmless, I usually do.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 02:39    Post subject:  
Thank goodness common sense prevails in Japan. For serious repetitive testing, it is a real boon to have auto-eject during shutdown.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 07:56    Post subject:  
Hi everyone,

Well I'm back.. had a few internet "glitches" with moving house Shocked Rolling Eyes .. will get up to speed and catch up tomorrow.

Cheers, and keep those reports rolling in..
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 18:46    Post subject:  
01micko wrote:
Hi everyone,

Well I'm back.. had a few internet "glitches" with moving house Shocked Rolling Eyes .. will get up to speed and catch up tomorrow.

Cheers, and keep those reports rolling in..


I guess my report is that there are no real problems to report...... Laughing
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