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Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 - Updated ISO Version 005 - APR 05 2012
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kevin bowers

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Apr 2012, 18:34    Post subject: Re: Open vs Save .pet files  
sheldonisaac wrote:
playdayz wrote:
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Noticed an oddity, don't think it's a problem but...in the open-or-save dialog box, Lupu528.004 offered to open with PupZip(default) rather than PPM. Huh? I didn't think PupZip could handle .pets
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I think that might be the browser deciding which programs to open with, possibly based on the fact that pets are compressed. In Chrome, the pet just downloads, and then when I click the pet to install it, it opens with petget and installs correctly.

When I download a .pet with Opera, I save it to a directory, and then click it in ROX-filer.
I guess that's why I hadn't seen that problem.

Thanks,

Sheldon


Must be a quirk of Seamonkey (I have 2.8 now).
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humblesoul

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Apr 2012, 19:03    Post subject:  
google chrome 18 is good. just remember to empty (delete the contents of) downloads in root before your last pup save file on exit. should this preference be moved to tmp by default chrome install?
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Aitch


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PostPosted: Sun 08 Apr 2012, 20:18    Post subject:  
playdayz

I'm sorry but I can't let you get away with a quiet 100 pages/1500 posts without at least a congrats, and well done!

So congrats and well done! Very Happy

Keep up the good work Wink

Aitch Smile
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Mon 09 Apr 2012, 02:09    Post subject: Re: Open vs Save .pet files  
kevin bowers wrote:
sheldonisaac wrote:
playdayz wrote:
Quote:
Noticed an oddity, don't think it's a problem but...in the open-or-save dialog box, Lupu528.004 offered to open with PupZip(default) rather than PPM. Huh? I didn't think PupZip could handle .pets
.
I think that might be the browser deciding which programs to open with, possibly based on the fact that pets are compressed. In Chrome, the pet just downloads, and then when I click the pet to install it, it opens with petget and installs correctly.

When I download a .pet with Opera, I save it to a directory, and then click it in ROX-filer.
I guess that's why I hadn't seen that problem.
Thanks,
Sheldon

Must be a quirk of Seamonkey (I have 2.8 now).

Firefox
Here is how it can be changed in Firefox options. How you want Pet files handled. (image3)

In Seamonkey if you use always ask where to download option, you should get this option window.
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kevin bowers

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Apr 2012, 09:14    Post subject: Re: Open vs Save .pet files  
bigpup wrote:

In Seamonkey if you use always ask where to download option, you should get this option window.


Yes, that's the option window I get, except that it says "pupzip" rather than "petget", and as I say if I use the "open with" radio button it does indeed open pupzip and that creates a new .tar.gz. It's no big deal for me, and if I'm the only one with the non-problem let's not waste any more space on it.
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr 2012, 00:18    Post subject:  
Update notice.

Pburn 3.5.2
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=23881
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr 2012, 02:08    Post subject:  
Playdayz,

Bug installing Audacity from Package Manager (puppy5.25).
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77384

I have the same problem in Lucid 528-005.
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Volhout

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr 2012, 08:11    Post subject: Stellarium  
Installed LupuLibre 528.005 full install in virgin system. Opera browser 11.62, and Flash player from Lucid repository.

Installed Stellarium (fun) 1.10.4 lucid from repository
At startup got message "not OpenGL" system
tried Stellarium 1.10.6 : same message.

This is a P4 system with a 82845G (Brookdale) graphics chip.

Thought it must be driver related (Intel Graphics)
Tried Xorg-high from lucid repository.
HW info says it has OpenGL now (Tungsten Graphics)

Started Stellarium 1.10.6, and X crashes.
Removed 1.10.6, removed also 1.10.4 (just to be sure), and re-installed 1.10.4 -> 1.10.4 also crashes X.

Any idea what I should do to fix ?
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr 2012, 13:46    Post subject:  
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Bug installing Audacity from Package Manager (puppy5.25).
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77384


Audacity problem is fixed. There was a misspelling. Please use Quickpet to update the Lupu PPM: Quickpet -> More Pets -> Update Lupu PPM

Direct link -> ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-lucid/audacity-1.3.12-lucid525.pet

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Started Stellarium 1.10.6, and X crashes.

Stellarium is tough volhut. I'll look into it.

volhut, Can you enter stellarium in a terminal and see what messages you get? Can you try the sfs just in case there is some difference? Uninstall the pets. ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-lucid/stellarium-0.10.6-0.sfs

Are there any other programs installed? Especially Qt programs--Stellarium uses Qt and if another Qt program was installed that could be a problem--it might be best to try Stellarium on a fresh dedicated install. I just tested on Lupu Libre 005 but I have an ATI card so that is different. However, i am thinking that once you installed xorg_high that satisfied Stellarium about the OpenGL graphics, so I bet on something else.
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rerwin


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PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr 2012, 14:06    Post subject: Expanded update package for lupuplus  
Playdayz, bigpup,
I have added several fixes for annoying issues to the "arch_update" package, as arch_update-3. Besides the "-2" fix for Broadcom 43xx wifi drivers, the attached new package also contains the following:
    - Correction of the loss of the "numlock" setting during creation of a new pupsave file.
    - Correction of the loss of file deletions during creation of a new pupsave file.
    - Removal of package artifacts during remastering, during which installed packages are integrated into the main SFS file, specifically /var/log/package-, /root/.package/*.files- and /root/.package/*.remove files.
The first two result from bigpup's report of the numlock issue. While analyzing the related shutdown logic, I found that when a pupsave file is created, hidden (.xxx...) files are saved only for the /root directory. Since whiteout files (indicators of deletions) are hidden, they, too, are not preserved in the other directories. The fix preserves all of the whiteout files (except in the "/" directory), thus retaining all deletions during creation of pupsave files. Assuming Barry had a reason for the hidden-file exclusion, I leave it to him to determine whether the exclusion is actually necessary. Note, however, that no hidden files are preserved when a pupsave partition is populated, which I presume was an oversight; the fix would apply there, too, but was not implemented in this package.

Remember, to test the Broadcom wifi fix, you also need to install (if you have not already done so for "-2") the driver package in the message for "arch_update-2" (on page 100). Although cowboy has confirmed the that logic to switch to the older proprietary driver works with the "eth1" device name, I am still hoping for a further confirmation that the logic still works with the name change to wlan0. ( I would be"surprised" if it did not work.)

Note to those who use remastering to create a "boot disk":
The package-cleanup improvements do not apply to that case, because retaining the entire /root directory negates/overrides the integration of installed packages.

I have once again fixed all issues that I know of pertaining to puppy infrastructure annoyances that could be fixed easily; Please remind me of any that I have missed. TIA

UPDATE 4/11/2012: I re-uploaded the package after download number 9 to remove directory /usr/root/Startup, which does not belong. There is no functional change and no need to replace it for testing.
Richard
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr 2012, 14:35    Post subject:  
Barkin wrote:
Audacity 2.0 released in March 2012 ... http://audacity.sourceforge.net/about/news?id=2012-03-13/2.0-release

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr 2012, 14:50    Post subject:  
bigpup wrote:
Barkin wrote:
Audacity 2.0 released in March 2012 ... http://audacity.sourceforge.net/about/news?id=2012-03-13/2.0-release


Yeah, I have just been trying to compile it, but no success. My approach is to give it a chance to work by trying the 3 or 4 things that work most of the time, but if they don't work I won't get obsessive about it.
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr 2012, 15:25    Post subject: Re: Expanded update package for lupuplus  
rerwin wrote:

Remember, to test the Broadcom wifi fix, you also need to install (if you have not already done so for "-2") the driver package in the message for "arch_update-2" (on page 100). Although cowboy has confirmed the that logic to switch to the older proprietary driver works with the "eth1" device name, I am still hoping for a further confirmation that the logic still works with the name change to wlan0. ( I would be"surprised" if it did not work.)


Richard

installed lupulibre with driver package in the message for "arch_update-2" (on page 100)
and arch_update-3 frugal to ext4 hdd pfix=ram on dual p6100 hp laptop.

unable to connect wifi with sns or connection wizard.

eth1 nor wlan0 detected.
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oui

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr 2012, 15:53    Post subject:  
Is there a reason why the build in Midori don't appears in the menu? this is bad as the new puppys overwrite each new start the /root/.jwmrc ! people not experimented to handle this new and very disturbing kind of progress ( Rolling Eyes Confused ) are really sad to start with an not complete menu!

the comments in the built in .jwmrc are the old comments so you have to pull diep into the Puppy forum to find the way to change it. it is nonsens...
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr 2012, 17:34    Post subject: Re: Expanded update package for lupuplus  
jim3630 wrote:
installed lupulibre with driver package in the message for "arch_update-2" (on page 100)
and arch_update-3 frugal to ext4 hdd pfix=ram on dual p6100 hp laptop.

unable to connect wifi with sns or connection wizard.

eth1 nor wlan0 detected.
Thanks for your report. I do not see any indication that puppy recognized your wifi device. That suggests that the installation of the drivers did not trigger "depmod" to tell puppy of the new drivers. Pupscan associates the device with the proprietary driver, so a version of it must be present. Maybe it is the older version, which might not handle your device. Did you download the drivers before download number 8? If so, you would need to run depmod from a terminal/console. If your download was later than 7, then maybe the package logic to run depmod is faulty. Either way, try running depmod and rebooting.
Richard
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