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Re: Lazarus.sfs troubles

#2641 Post by dawg »

aarf wrote:
dawg wrote:And also a question that's been kind of nagging me since the very beginning: what is SA-LUKI, anyway? What does it mean or stand for?
The first association I get is "salivate". Anyhow, I kind of dislike it, but maybe that's just me. :)
Saluki is a dawg. Google is a search engine.
I'm sure I've seen the breed before, but the name, inspite of its "unusualness", must've escaped me. Oh well, we learn something new (or in fact very old) every day. :) Thanks.
elroy wrote:
dawg wrote:As of 019 I'm having the same problem with Lazarus-0.9.30.0-fpc-2.4.2.sfs. It worked fine in 018.
Any ideas/suggestions?
As Geoffrey pointed out, the lazarus-0.9.30.4RC2-0_fpc-2.6.0-0.sfs works with 019.

I've made a SFS for the latest stable releases of Lazarus and the Free Pascal Compiler: lazarus-0.9.30.4_fpc-2.6.0. You can download the SFS and md5 here - http://www.smokey01.com/saluki/elroy/sfs/

It also works on 019. However, it does not contain the cross-compiler for creating Windows binaries. But neither does the SFS in the Saluki package manager.
Thanks, both of these do work on 019. Not so much for Slacko (5.3.1), though, but it's a Saluki thread, so that doesn't really matter here.
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#2642 Post by Puppyt »

@ jemimah and crew,
Earlier today I 'dismembered' the ISO for the key files and did a manual frugal install of Saluki 19, on my Lenovo T60 laptop (dual core, 2GHz with 2GB RAM).
The MD5 checked out fine, but some weird stuff was happening with persistence in Frisbee and panel settings (i.e., I really love multiple workspaces on a lappie). Very strangely, nothing was staying resident despite dozens of reboots/restarts.

Anyway, I love the look battleshooter has given Saluki http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 582#617582 so I installed cairo-dock (love it!) and Firefox 10 (Saluki) from your repro. I closed the lid to test the ACPI - but I re-opened it too early and got a schizo-screen of flashing rows that only a manual boot would resolve. After a filesystem check on reboot - I now have Frisbee and workspaces PERSISTENT. Yay! Even a (proper) hibernation with lid closure and reopening has everything as it should. :D
(Not asking for explanations (!) Just stating observations.)

THANK YOU for "Recent Documents" in the menu! (A 'first' in Puppy?) I'm really looking forward to working with Saluki for a very long time [insert loveheart icon here]
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#2643 Post by dawg »

One thing I'm missing in Saluki, or rather under its "network status/setup icon" in the tray, is the ability/option to bring the network connection up/down quickly at will, as it is possible in other Puppies.


Edit: Another annoyance / undesired behaviour (AFAIC):
In Thunar: right-click a file -> Gzip. This does make a gzip of the file, but it also deletes the original file afterwards!
One might not want to touch the original file necessarily, other than making a compressed back-up version of it, such as of a file that is currently in use by Puppy (or some app), namely the savefile.
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#2644 Post by Sage »

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Open the / etc / rc.d / rc.shutdown find the line number 1171 and delete the comment.
Now the folder / tmp will be cleaned.

Thanks for that. I just opened /tmp and deleted everything, directories and files. There was a lot in there so didn't expect it to work - it did, though.
As for the code mod., guess that's one for our angel.
It's back! Despite emptying /tmp it came back, so I deleted 1171, even though it was already commented out. Must be another command somewhere, because /tmp still refills after every hard reset. Over to you...

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#2645 Post by smokey01 »

dawg wrote: Edit: Another annoyance / undesired behaviour (AFAIC):
In Thunar: right-click a file -> Gzip. This does make a gzip of the file, but it also deletes the original file afterwards!
One might not want to touch the original file necessarily, other than making a compressed back-up version of it, such as of a file that is currently in use by Puppy (or some app), namely the savefile.
Look at Custom Actions in Thunar, it's quite powerful. You should be able to change gzip quite easily.

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#2646 Post by mavrothal »

Sage wrote:
Quote:
Open the / etc / rc.d / rc.shutdown find the line number 1171 and delete the comment.
Now the folder / tmp will be cleaned.

Thanks for that. I just opened /tmp and deleted everything, directories and files. There was a lot in there so didn't expect it to work - it did, though.
As for the code mod., guess that's one for our angel.
It's back! Despite emptying /tmp it came back, so I deleted 1171, even though it was already commented out. Must be another command somewhere, because /tmp still refills after every hard reset. Over to you...
"delete the comment" actually means "uncomment" :D so "rm -f /tmp" will work
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#2647 Post by mavrothal »

Tried to load a couple of homemade SFSs in 019 and I get

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mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop5,
       missing codepage or helper program
and dmesg reports

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SQUASHFS error: Filesystem uses "unknown" compression. This is not supported
Compressing with default or "-comp gzip", same difference. Mounting manually no problem and filesystem reports as "squashfs"
Any idea?

BTW looking at sfs_load for clues I noticed 2 different "mountedpart" functions :?
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#2648 Post by Aitch »

Maybe SFS3/4 problem?

Aitch :)

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#2649 Post by Sage »

"delete the comment" actually means "uncomment" :D so "rm -f /tmp" will work
Ta!

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Re: Well Done!

#2650 Post by jim3630 »

jemimah wrote: We need a professional-looking website to make it happen. However, It's not possible for me develop saluki, maintain the website, and provide tech support for a bunch of new users all at the same time. I tried it with Puppeee and it just about killed me.

I can maybe do one and a half or two of those things.

I need some serious community help.
"it's not the puppy way"?

obviously she can do the dev, and some of the tech support if not all.
that is one and a half or two.

who has the skills and will volunteer to setup and maintain a website?

if i had the skills i would because would like Saluki to last more than a year after release.
being retired i have the time so just let me know how can help.

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#2651 Post by DaveS »

jemimah wrote:
OscarTalks wrote:
DaveS wrote:Tried new save file to fix sound issue, no joy. This does not happen with earlier versions so has been introduced with '19'
If you mean the 10alsa file which shinobar posted I can tell you that I made the substitution and apart from two "mic boost" mute checkboxes which it still doesn't remember It is now remembering all the other settings. Those two are not a problem since they are not in use and the faders are down anyway. Workable for now and hopefully will be sorted for the next release.

This same problem cropped up in Racy a few beta versions ago all of a sudden but was gone in the next one so not sure what caused it.
The fix got whacked from rc.shutdown when I updated pupsaveconfig. It will be fixed in the next release.

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alsactrl store
will save your settings.
Thanks J... somehow missed your fix. Solved it anyway. So What is up with Midori? Fix?
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aarf

#2652 Post by aarf »

cant see a need to fork a website. was under the impression that saluki will be released as official puppy. just another in the kennel.
edit:cant (typo)

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Saluki The Great

#2653 Post by l2ulinux »

Still working great.

Operating System

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Kernel Linux 3.2.8-ski (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Mar 12 16:42:30 EET 2012
C Library GNU C Library version 2.10.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution Unknown distribution
Current Session
Computer Name puppypc30325
User Name root (root)
Home Directory /root
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Misc
Uptime 6 hours, 1 minute
Load Average 0.04, 0.04, 0.05

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Re: Well Done!

#2654 Post by TTW »

jemimah wrote:
sszindian wrote:I'd say Saluki is ready for final release! and YES it should be made available to the public somehow if not selected as Puppy 6 it's just to unique a Puppy to 'die in the forum.'
We need a professional-looking website to make it happen. However, It's not possible for me develop saluki, maintain the website, and provide tech support for a bunch of new users all at the same time. I tried it with Puppeee and it just about killed me.

I can maybe do one and a half or two of those things.

I need some serious community help.

I can do website design - just let me know what you want doing


Anything to do my bit for saluki

D

elroy

Puppy 6/Website/Fork

#2655 Post by elroy »

I guess I can see it (a website fork, that is). I mean that if Saluki isn’t a viable candidate for being Puppy 6.0, if it’s considered a fork, it does have the strength (IMHO) to stand on it’s own as a viable distro. I use it exclusively on an everyday basis (heck, my everyday distro is still 017 - very usable - absolutely no complaints). The only 'Puppy-goal' that it doesn't meet, again IMHO, would be 'Puppy will breathe new life into old PCs' - it's targeted for computers five years old or newer. And, as a ex-MS-Windows user/refugee, I find it very usable - I prefer it to Lubuntu, etc. Frugal install is where it’s at (again, IMHO), and if Barry does deem it a fork it needs to live on...somehow. But Jemimah needs some help. She’s expressed that. And I’m sure she has some 'real life’ things that are taking up her time as of late. And questions about SFS’s/PETs that were developed for another version of Puppy not working on Saluki aren’t helping her any; but they do show her what she’s up against if you’re planning on making your distro 'idiot proof’; and no disrespect intended. It’s not your fault if you’ve been using Slacko and you can’t get the same app/pet/sfs to work on Saluki. After all, they’re both Puppy Linux. If you don’t know, you don’t know. Doesn’t make you stupid. Ignorance is not stupidity. Let’s be clear about that fact. But as far as advancing Saluki, if you have expertise in creating/maintaining web sites, you may prove to be a valuable commodity to Jemimah. I know how to code HTML/CSS, but message board/CGI/etc. is not my field of expertise; otherwise, I do have the time and financial resources needed. If financing is an issue Jemimah, please do pm me, and maybe we can come up with something. I believe in Saluki, and I’d like to see it continue regardless whether or not it’s an ‘official’ Puppy release. I do think you’re on to something here.

But if Saluki is to be released as an ‘official Puppy’ I would think that it would be a plus for the Puppy Linux community as a whole. There’s definitely some forward thinking with Saluki; to me, that’s what makes Saluki viable. Obviously there’s going to be some rough water, but that’s to be expected with any knew release. It’s cutting edge, and that’s what makes it so beautiful. It’s unique. As a MS-Windows refugee, the Saluki-Puppy Linux flavor is the easiest Puppy for me to relate to (with an honorable mention to Lucid-Puppy, but that distro is in no way as easy to modify as Saluki is...) that, to me, is what makes Saluki the obvious choice...except for the fact that when you're moving over to the Linux side of things, nothing is obvious. Therefore a new (professional) website may be of great service. Let's face it - ex/current-Windows users are pre-conditioned to simplicity via a dialog. If it isn't spelled out for us in basic terms, whether or not it is good or bad, whether or not it's in our best interest (have to admit, we do have a bit of the lemming in us), we do tend to loose interest and shy away from it very quickly, regardless of the fact that it may have substance. We've been preconditioned to simplicity. Even Ubuntu refugees suffer from this state, albeit to a lesser degree. So, to me, promotion of Saluki is PARAMOUNT to its' success. Saluki can be the biggest/best thing since ice-cream, but if the average user doesn't find it accessible, its' value is mitigated. If this happens, and if it is deemed a fork and not a viable candidate for Puppy 6.0, then it will be relegated to a Puppy niche. To me, that would be a shame. My first Puppy was 3.x, and for myself, Saluki incorporates many things that I desired for Puppy when I first started using it. I guess that's why I feel so strongly about Saluki. Don't get me wrong...every thing new has its' issues...but Saluki, for me, comes closest to representing what I desire in a Puppy distro.

I have a small OS that I can run from a USB/CD/DVD or HD, and can even do a full install if I desire. Not to mention that I have access to a rich repo, all for the cost of my ISP bill...what more could I desire? And, here’s the ultimate catch - I get timely, free IS support regardless how preposterous my question(s) may be. Are you serious? I mean, nothing is perfect, but for me Saluki is pretty much the Cat’s-A**. Here’s a tight distro that on the vast majority of new computers works pretty much right out of the box, with superior IS support. How often do you deal with MS directly and get to talk (forum/pm) with the developer (and for free????). If Saluki isn’t in consideration for Puppy 6.0, if it’s viewed as a fork, then yes, Saluki needs a website of its’ own, someway, somehow.
Saluki may end up just being a niche distro - but regardless, Saluki has value. Jemimahs’ forward thinking should be celebrated. Saluki actually has substance, regardless of whether or not it's done in the 'Puppy way'. I find it usable, and to me, that's the ultimate proof of OS value.

And, at a minimum, to be able to alter the 'adrive'; to include/exclude in a very simple fashion what one wants in their base system; to not recognize the ingenuity of such a leap forward in Puppy, I mean seriously,look on the evidence - bad on them...jemimah has, simply, (because in actuality, it isn't really that difficult, just a different way of looking at it...) created a new reality in regards to Puppy. Saluki is what it is...usable, customizable, accessible. If you have the necessary skill-set, and you believe in Saluki/what jemimah is doing, please step up to the plate.

And for god's sake, be patient. Jemimah is doing this solo. Help her out. If you can answer a forum question, then please do so. Spread the wealth. Regardless of how silly the question may seem to you, it may be pertinent to a newbie. For one, you'll be helping to promote Saluki. For another, you're helping by lightening jemimah's load. Like I said earlier, I'm sure jemimah has other 'real life' adventures at present, and any knowledgeable, accurate help on the forum would be of great service.
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#2656 Post by sc0ttman »

Regardless of what people think about Saluki being official or not...

If Saluki needs a website, there's an easy option..
and the maintainer won't even need to be all that savvy...

cPanel + QuickInstall

QuickInstall is ridiculously easy to use...
Supports many sites: http://support.hostgator.com/articles/c ... ickinstall

Sign up to a good web hosting provider... Which are mostly quite cheap...
All you then need to do is:

- go into cpanel, use QuickInstall to install wordpress, phpbb, wikka, bbpress, etc
- setup wordpress, phpbb, wikka, etc, as you like them (these ones actually very easy)
- set up some 'moderator' accounts for interested people, email them out
- get a (few) domain(s) and set them up to point where yo uwant..

To keep it cheap, you can use one hosting account and domain for the whole thing, sub domains for each site you setup...

http://saluki.com
http://forum.saluki.com
http://blog.saluki.com
http://wiki.saluki.com
...etc, etc..

Just a thought...
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#2657 Post by Geoffrey »

I just tried LibreOffice-3.5.1-en_us-2.sfs from http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-lucid, it seems to run fine in saluki.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... n_us-2.sfs

If it proves to be usable maybe it should be added to the Saluki repository

elroy

Lazarus/FPC

#2658 Post by elroy »

FOR SALUKI ONLY!!! (on a frugal install...) If any of the Lazarus/Pascal developers are interested I’ve created a PET that allows you to create a SFS for the latest stable Lazarus/FPC release anytime a new one is released by Sourceforge. Only skills needed are the ability to download files and push buttons...And I must highlight - for SALUKI only!!! And did I mention...for Saluki ONLY?!!! I’m currently working on the auto-download capability for the current files that are needed for construction - for the time being, you have to manually download the necessary files yourself, but it’s pretty simple as is - just make sure you read the help file if you use the PET. Essentially it takes the required RPM files from Sourceforge, creates directories, modifies the .desktop file, and combines everything into the SFS, and then creates the pertinent md5 file. I used jemimahs’ custom-builder script as a template, but it’s heavily modified...however, it is bash so, in the spirit of open-source-software, it should be
easily modified if need be...you have my blessing to modify as you see fit..I thought about doing it in ‘C++’; would've been much simpler, but then it would've been hard-coded. So I decided against doing it in that way. You can download the beta version here...but please, remember, it's beta...http://www.smokey01.com/saluki/elroy/pe ... er-1.2.pet...feedback would be appreciated.
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My window decor is disappearing

#2659 Post by Pete22 »

Today I noticed something weird in Saluki.
It might be caused by something I did, not sure.
But the window decor disappears on any window in full screen.
Is there some way to get the window decor to stay on?

Pete

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#2660 Post by don570 »

I made changes to Zigbert's pmirror and released it as
Puppy Backup. I checked it in Saluki 18

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 168#621168

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