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Shutting down computer from puppy problem
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musher0
 Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 2219 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada |
You may want to try this: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=622476#622476 Regards. _________________  "To err is human; to really foul things up, you need a computer!" / "L'erreur est humaine; pour vraiment f... la m..., il faut un ordinateur." (Carleton University, banderole à la Rentrée 1979 / banner, start of 1979 school year) |
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Shep
Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 840 Location: GIRT-BY-SEA |
There have always been some puppies that won't fully shut down on some hardware since I've been using Puppy Linux. Unless you are tightly wedded to a particular puppy, why not try a different one? Where one doesn't work, the next is sure to. 
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session
 Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 44 Location: Valley of the Sun |
I have this problem on my second computer (see: signature) as described by the original post; it only applies to a frugal install with no savefile (saves session directly to ext2 partition), a savefile will fix it. _________________ Primary - Intel Celeron 1.80GHz, 579MB RAM, ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TF. Wary 5.5 full install. Secondary - Pentium 3 533MHz, 385MB RAM, Matrox MGA-G200 AGP. Wary 5 frugal install. (IDE HD is 428 MB!) |
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slinko
Joined: 11 May 2012 Posts: 4 |
I also am having a problem shutting down. My laptop's Lucid ver. 5.2.8 froze after I tried to shut down, and even the button to force the computer to power off stopped working. Then I decided to remove my USB drive without dismounting it first, despite having heard this is a big no-no. Currently I am hoping my laptop's battery will die so that, when I try to repower the laptop, it will boot up instead of returning to the current freeze, but I know this will probably not work. I was running about four copies of seamonkey simultaneously on the laptop. Is there anything I can do? |
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slinko
Joined: 11 May 2012 Posts: 4 |
Laptop has about 1.5 gigs RAM, unknown processor speed, though it came new in 2007. Plenty of storage. |
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 2219 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada |
Hello, slinko. It's no use getting emotional about computers, THEY don't have emotions! Not yet, anyway.  Now to try and rationalize your problem:
Removal of USB thumbdrive probably didn't help the current session, but aside from that... Check on another computer if that killed your thumbdrive? (Condolences, if so.)
Don't assume anything ! With computer off, remove the battery manually, and reboot. Then you'll be sure. If this boot is successful, try booting down normally. Do you still have the problem?
That would've slowed your computer down, but only if you don't have a swap file and/or have limited RAM (such as 192 -256 Mb). I don't think it would affect your shutdown problem. Have you tried exiting to initial black console with Ctrl-Alt-Backpace, and then typing either busybox reboot OR busybox poweroff ? With what results? Keep us posted? Best regards. _________________ "To err is human; to really foul things up, you need a computer!" / "L'erreur est humaine; pour vraiment f... la m..., il faut un ordinateur." (Carleton University, banderole à la Rentrée 1979 / banner, start of 1979 school year) |
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John_C
Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 27 Location: Texada Is. -BC- Canada |
I've searched all over this Forum and it appears this problem doesn't get fixed?? Did everybody quit and go home
My installation is the same (everything to a partition on USB drive)... Busybox works BUT that is not really a solution just a pain in the a_s. I've had many such installs with Puppy on this computer and this is the first time I've run into this problem -- yes I could try an alternate install but again... I really like this version (best yet for me). Surely a 'fix' (that works) can be posted in a PET file somewhere. I tried the 'exit.pet' listed elsewhere and it did nothing to help.. |
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Karl Godt
 Joined: 20 Jun 2010 Posts: 2689 Location: Kiel,Germany |
#29apr12: do not kill myself to avoid re-login |
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Shep
Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 840 Location: GIRT-BY-SEA |
They do, you know. My PIII works perfectly day in day out, never missing a beat. But if I go away for a few weeks, when I return there is always something wrong, a missing essential file, or a corrupted password, or something. See, it has felt abandoned and, left sulking for weeks, has gone and made itself sick.  The veterinary term for this syndrome in puppies is "separation anxiety".
For the last 6 months or so I've been running pemasu's Dup Exprimo (not his latest version) on my venerable PIII. For the first few months it shut down perfectly from the MENU. Then it had a mood change and decided it didn't like being put to bed that way. (See, I said they have emotions!  )
Currently, the route I must use here is: I hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and this takes me to a text-mode screen where I type: reboot and this causes Puppy to shutdown gracefully* and begin a reboot. Once I see it beginning the reboot countdown I deftly pull the power plug. * I am satisfied it's a graceful shutdown because when I boot next day and use: puppy pfix=fsck the check is very brief and always successful. ("shutdown" and "busybox reboot" is not understood at this prompt) I shutdown only once a day, and with this being its only quirk then I'm not complaining! 
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ozsouth
Joined: 01 Jan 2010 Posts: 83 Location: S.E Australia |
I commented out 3 lines in /usr/sbin/shutdownconfig, & have no problems now (Lucid, Racy, Slacko). In Racy522, it is lines 646,647,648, commented out with ### as per attached pic.
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Shep
Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 840 Location: GIRT-BY-SEA |
I commented out those lines (in Dup Exprimo) and now ctrl-alt-backspace initiates a full graceful shutdown. Thanks. |
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Karl Godt
Joined: 20 Jun 2010 Posts: 2689 Location: Kiel,Germany |
You have luck : 0 and 3 are actually keyboard entries :
from man dialog . 255 means also ESC key . Its the same with musher0 solution: You seem to interpret something wrong, alter something without any knowledge and interpret a normal shutdown afterwards as solution . 
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ozsouth
Joined: 01 Jan 2010 Posts: 83 Location: S.E Australia |
Karl, my systems wouldn't ever shutdown (most annoying). After over 6 months of using this 'fix' they have never failed to. Scientific - no; effective - yes. |
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