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Aitch · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6825 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

Vector linux?...maybe my comment on 18th sparked that...?

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=620978#620978

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greengeek · Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 1217 Location: New Zealand

Aitch · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6825 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

I think I was hinting that Barry used to use Vector Dev Tools,'back in the days'....? Wink

That's a real devloop Very Happy

Aitch

DocSalvage · Joined: 30 Jun 2012 Posts: 8 Location: Tallahassee, FL, USA

Am a programmer of 30 years and 30 some languages but new here and new to Puppy so I'll briefly throw in my 1 cent worth...

I've just spent an hour trying to find PupGet and Puppy Basic so I can install unrpm.undeb.pup so I can extract Synergy 1.3.1 .rpm to install it on on Puppy 5.2.2. From this thread, I now see this has probably been folly due to fully understandable incompatibilities. We can't make software better without breaking a few old versions.

However, I wish the current Package Manager included perhaps a link from the main screen to a help page explaining step-by-step what a newbie might do (like finding the source and recompiling) in this situation.

From this thread, it appears that the package manager definitely needs to be more robust. That probably means a rewrite that can't be backward compatible. However, to remain inviting to newcomers, it really needs to guide users to a solution, if there is one, for using software that only exists via what will be 2 obsolete package managers or source. A builtin launcher for Xarchive, make, configure, etc. for those source compiles would be very helpful too.

Puppy Linux is the best *nx I've ever used!

Kudus to Barry and all that keep making it better!

As I continue to convert 6 systems to Puppy, I look forward to many happy [Return]s.

noryb009 · Joined: 20 Mar 2010 Posts: 512

Thank you, DocSalvage. You pretty much summarized why the PPM should be remade: if a programmer of 30 years can't install a program within a few minutes (let alone an hour), how can we expect regular users to do so?

Puppy claims to be user friendly, yet programmers can't even install things.

jpeps · Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 2449

DocSalvage · Joined: 30 Jun 2012 Posts: 8 Location: Tallahassee, FL, USA

unrpm:

jpeps · Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 2449

Gnuxo · Joined: 09 Feb 2012 Posts: 360

Thank you for agreeing with me.

I never found the interface in PPM very intuitive.

...And some daily operations in it are tedious.

I'm no programmer but even I can tell that it's missing a few usable features.

One interesting Idea would be to merge PPM and Quickpet/Slickpet into one user friendly interface. I know the PPM is puppy's answer to Synaptic and Quickpet is puppy's software center, treat caterer.

However I'd like to see Quickpet have more applications to view and maybe search Quickpet for applications...

I know it can be done and still keep a small footprint because I trust the ability of the Puppy devs.

bark_bark_bark · Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 20:33 Post_subject:

I think the PPM is fine the way it is.

disciple · Posted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 01:58 Post_subject:

bark_bark_bark · Posted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 07:38 Post_subject:

well maybe there should be on going updates for packages in the OFFICIAL repos, while the packages here get signed (by the devs) and added to the repo.