slacko 5.3.3, final

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Billtoo · #321 Post by **Billtoo** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 04:26

I compiled the amd driver in the last pae beta and it seemed to be
working, glxgears fps looked good but when I went to run the nexuiz
game it was unplayable.
I tried your new pet for the amd driver in the latest 5.3.2.8.5 beta
and again the glxgears fps looked good but nexuiz is unplayable.
In the 64 bit version of Ubuntu 12.04 on the same laptop with the
amd proprietary driver installed from the additional drivers, nexuiz
plays well.
Maybe others have had the same result with the new pet?

01micko · #322 Post by **01micko** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 04:33

Billtoo,

Where can I get nexuiz to test?

Also, can you compile an older version of the driver? The latest may have bugs.

Has it worked ok in Slacko before?

DaveS · #323 Post by **DaveS** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 04:41

playdayz wrote:What I *think* might be happening is that the original Slacko iso is built using a newer more efficient compression, but when remastered mksquashfs uses the older compression.

I think that is exactly right.

DaveS · #324 Post by **DaveS** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 04:43

Mick, do you think compositing will ever be fixed in JWM?

DaveS · #325 Post by **DaveS** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 04:44

double post

Billtoo · #326 Post by **Billtoo** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 04:47

01micko wrote:Billtoo,

Where can I get nexuiz to test?

Also, can you compile an older version of the driver? The latest may have bugs.

Has it worked ok in Slacko before?

The download link for nexuiz (888mb) is:

http://www.alientrap.org/games/nexuiz

That link provides another link to sourceforge for the download.

Nexuiz always works with Slacko with Nvidia proprietary driver, I'm pretty sure it has with ati in the past but not 100% sure of that.

I'll check to see if I have an older version of the ati driver around and try compiling that if I find
one, likely tomorrow though, need some sleep first

01micko · #327 Post by **01micko** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 05:09

DaveS wrote:Mick, do you think compositing will ever be fixed in JWM?

Christmas.. maybe.. seems to be the only time Joe works on it

I might compile an older version (maybe 500, it worked in spup-100 eh?) and put it in the repo, you'll lose the screen rotation and the screen will flicker when refreshing the menu but if eye candy is what you want then I guess those are two things you can fore go.

-

Billtoo. nexuiz sure is big, I might download it tonight, uploading stuff atm and it slows down the downloads.

There is another ATI/AMD driver, a new one, I compiled it by mistake and it didn't work, must only support newer stuff. I discarded it and haven't got a version number, maybe that's the one Ubuntu are using?

DaveS · #328 Post by **DaveS** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 05:18

01micko wrote: I might compile an older version (maybe 500, it worked in spup-100 eh?) and put it in the repo,

Cool

01micko · #329 Post by **01micko** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 05:26

DaveS wrote:
01micko wrote: I might compile an older version (maybe 500, it worked in spup-100 eh?) and put it in the repo,
Cool

scratch might

(didn't test, can't restart X atm)

Billtoo · #330 Post by **Billtoo** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 06:28

01micko wrote: -

Billtoo. nexuiz sure is big, I might download it tonight, uploading stuff atm and it slows down the downloads.

There is another ATI/AMD driver, a new one, I compiled it by mistake and it didn't work, must only support newer stuff. I discarded it and haven't got a version number, maybe that's the one Ubuntu are using?

I compiled the ati-driver-installer-11-10-x86.x86_64.run driver and I
get the same result with nexuiz.
I gave Xonotic a try, it's a newer version of Nexuiz and I managed to
get a screenshot of what's happening.Hardware acceleration doesn't
seem to be working at all in Nexuiz and the screen seems to show two
layers, one being the dirctory that Nexuiz is launched from.
Xonotic does the same but hardware acceration seems to be working, I
managed to get a screenshot so you can see what' happening.

Volhout · #331 Post by **Volhout** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 06:51

01micko

Are you actually still building with SCSI drivers ? Who is still using SCSI I wonder.... All I read is reports on laptops and quad cores ....
Remember we also dropped analog modems (still in Wary I think).

Volhout ...

01micko · #332 Post by **01micko** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 06:56

Billtoo

Hmmmm... I have a Cedar Pro HD 5450 .. pretty low end and getting "old" in computer terms.. Nexuiz runs fine for me.. I bet you need the "newer" graphics driver I was talking about, I'll see what I can hunt up.

01micko · #333 Post by **01micko** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 07:00

Volhout wrote:01micko

Are you actually still building with SCSI drivers ? Who is still using SCSI I wonder.... All I read is reports on laptops and quad cores ....
Remember we also dropped analog modems (still in Wary I think).

Volhout ...

Yes, there is plenty of old and not so old scsi gear out there capable of running Slacko.

Analog modem drivers are huge, and mostly unsupported in newer kernels, scsi modules are small and supported.

EDIT: I just remembered.. Aitch uses Slacko in scsi gear

cthisbear · #334 Post by **cthisbear** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 07:54

" Nice report mate... but the wrong bloody slacko version!!! "

Knew this would happen.

Learning Windows has turned him into a tyrant.

The dev has turned and become a critic.

They're onto me I fear.

""""""""""""

Sound works well.
Screen good.

But.........
Me interface won't load.
Ah! the dangers of getting old.

Your report your majesty....
just the Dell Studio Studio XPS.

The Asus EeePc is unavailable.
Located near where you lived once...ha!..ha!

Thanks mate.....Chris.

01micko · #335 Post by **01micko** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 09:45

Chris,

Seems to be some weird doubling up of some firmwares

try this in the terminal

Code: Select all

rm /lib/modules/all-firmware/b43/lib/firmware/b43/*

Reboot

If that fails, I'm compiling the proprietary driver for broadcom known as "wl". I'll post a pet later.

Cheers

_________________________________________________________________

Broadcom WL pets are uploaded.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ko_4gA.pet

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... o_paeA.pet

.

ICPUG · #336 Post by **ICPUG** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 11:51

gcmartin wrote:
playdayz wrote:Slacko Libre Proof of Concept ...
Thanks Playdayz. I know the value of what you present for us.

Question for thought (no requirement to reply)
Could your work be collapsed into a PET? (say, a Libre PET that offers a JAVA dependency as it installs while accomplishing the desktop integration)

I know you (& others) have probably thought of this, before, and there are probably some hurdles that are involved.

The immediate hurdle I can think of is that if in a PET it fills up your save file! An sfs is a different matter but then I'm not sure if a separate sfs can load into RAM.

01micko · #337 Post by **01micko** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 12:13

I tend to agree ICPUG, but some people prefer full installs, a pet is easier, also, I know gcmartin often netboots and runs in RAM so therefore a pet is easier. I'm uploading the Libre pet now, will take awhile, it includes playdayz integration.

@gcmartin, I'm not adding java as a dep to the libre pet, it's optional and is (AFAIK) only needed for Base, which many users don't use. Can you link me to the exact Java pet that works correctly for you and I'll upload that too and make an sfs.

Jasper · #338 Post by **Jasper** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 13:03

Hi 01micko,

My SFS' load into RAM, including jre 1.7 and LibreOffice (3.4.0.2). All LibreOffice programs load instanteously from Quickstart (which may not be included in later versions). Offline Help works except for the search feature.

You can see from the picture below, bottom left corner that I have no swap file, 597 and a bit MB RAM which is only some one third used. I also have Acrobat reader, Opera 11.62 and other SFS' in use or ready for instant use.

I use seaside's SFS loader/unloader and also his SFS tray loader - there are no checks and "fixmenus" is not updated so seaside's programs are super fast - he even has another program "to load all SFS' in any directory at once". None of these conflict with the pre-installed SFS load-on-the-fly.

I use technosaurus' Simple Menu.pet which loads instantaneously and his Create Menu.pet (where I excluded the alternative Drive icons and converted it to an SFS) which works well and takes less than a second (using "fixmenus" reverts to my usual JWM menu). Also radky's PupMenu takes some two seconds to load or refresh - whereas "fixmenus" takes some fifteen seconds on my ancient desktop computer.

My regards

Jasper · #339 Post by **Jasper** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 13:08

My apology for this double post - now used.

Addendum 1:

Another apology, in the above post the LibreOffice.sfs should have read v. 3.3.0.4 and I omitted to say it is Slacko 5.3.1 Main.

Addendum 2:

I should also have said that I use a Multi-session live-CD and a USB stick (with many absolute links to the loaded CD - which I infrequently update.) which includes my SFS files, SeaMonkey, some 35 Wine programs and even a few pets (which I only istall when rarely needed), some configuration files and all my data (which is saved-on-the-fly so I have nothing to save on reboot or shutdown).

I have two internal hard drives, but I only mount either to make backups or to download files larger than 240 MB.
.

01micko · #340 Post by **01micko** » Fri 27 Apr 2012, 13:20

playdayz wrote:What I *think* might be happening is that the original Slacko iso is built using a newer more efficient compression, but when remastered mksquashfs uses the older compression.

Too true.

Maybe this (untested) patch to remasterpup2?
EDIT: see next page for newer patch

Appends the "-comp xz" option telling mksquashfs to use xz compression if using a 3 series kernel or greater.

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