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technosaurus

Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4786 Location: Kingwood, TX
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Posted: Sat 21 Apr 2012, 00:08 Post subject:
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@Scottman - Thanks to your oops, I ended up looking into the size difference of using a full flat set of kernel modules (everything in /lib/modules/$KERNVER rather than subdirectories) ... I had previously played with it on the initrd, and knew it was much faster to run depmod and slightly smaller, but when I tested it on the full set of kernel modules, the difference was about 6Mb and depmod is still nearly instant.
The only gotchas I can think of are scripts and C programs with the subdirectories preprogrammed for insmod $mod or insmod(mod); ...probably stuff like /init or ndiswrapper.c? ... easy to fix though - not even cut and paste - just cut.
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sc0ttman

Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2571 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat 21 Apr 2012, 13:22 Post subject:
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starhawk wrote: | ...and I trust you are on the mend, then? |
On the way thanks mate... Still eating carefully, and will be off work for a few weeks yet ...and still (supposed to be) house bound, not driving, etc... But feeling much better... Wanna start exercising soon... But it'll have to wait a month or so..
technosaurus wrote: | @Scottman - Thanks to your oops, I ended up looking into the size difference of using a full flat set of kernel modules (everything in /lib/modules/$KERNVER rather than subdirectories) ... when I tested it on the full set of kernel modules, the difference was about 6Mb and depmod is still nearly instant.
The only gotchas I can think of are scripts and C programs with the subdirectories preprogrammed for insmod $mod or insmod(mod); ...probably stuff like /init or ndiswrapper.c? ... easy to fix though - not even cut and paste - just cut. |
Hmmm... interesting... I'll have a look at making this work, next time I create an Akita with a Wary kernel...
If I can work out what I need to do to reliably locate the problems and fix them..
Anyone wanna suggest the best (ideally aufs) 2.6.x kernel to use next time??
don570 wrote: | I made a utility to rename files (version 1.2).
It works well in Akita.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76919 |
Thanks Don... I'll add it to the repo, Akita already has the following installed: PRename, gFnRename and Renamcon..
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jemimah

Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 4309 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Sat 21 Apr 2012, 13:46 Post subject:
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technosaurus wrote: | @Scottman - Thanks to your oops, I ended up looking into the size difference of using a full flat set of kernel modules (everything in /lib/modules/$KERNVER rather than subdirectories) ... I had previously played with it on the initrd, and knew it was much faster to run depmod and slightly smaller, but when I tested it on the full set of kernel modules, the difference was about 6Mb and depmod is still nearly instant.
The only gotchas I can think of are scripts and C programs with the subdirectories preprogrammed for insmod $mod or insmod(mod); ...probably stuff like /init or ndiswrapper.c? ... easy to fix though - not even cut and paste - just cut. |
It also breaks dougal's network setup.
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technosaurus

Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4786 Location: Kingwood, TX
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Posted: Sat 21 Apr 2012, 14:16 Post subject:
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jemimah wrote: | It also breaks dougal's network setup. | Thanks jemimah, it _should_ be an easy fix... but maybe not ... I'll take a look - It will be part of nanosaurOS/technosaurOS though, I don't mind breaking stuff temporarily on my own box to give it a better long term fix.
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jemimah

Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 4309 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Sat 21 Apr 2012, 14:30 Post subject:
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technosaurus wrote: | jemimah wrote: | It also breaks dougal's network setup. | Thanks jemimah, it _should_ be an easy fix... but maybe not ... I'll take a look - It will be part of nanosaurOS/technosaurOS though, I don't mind breaking stuff temporarily on my own box to give it a better long term fix. |
It's not too easy, because it breaks the part where you can select which network modules to load or blacklist, etc.
I'm not sure how you will tell which modules relate to networking without the directory structure.
If there's a good way to fix it, let me know. Module loading is much faster with a flat structure - for some reason.
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technosaurus

Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4786 Location: Kingwood, TX
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Posted: Sat 21 Apr 2012, 17:23 Post subject:
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I would just try to add a variable(s) with all of the network module names (easily found in the tree structure prior to flattening)
Edit: Ok, the code is in /usr/sbin/updatenetmoduleslist.sh (not sure why it isn't just a function) - yep, looks like a predefined list will do - there is already an "$EXTRALIST" in a similar format, so it will actually simplify the code.
... just get rid of the /path/ and the .ko and replace the while loop with a for ONEBASE in $LIST; do ...
... but then there is a verbose dryrun of modprobe on each module, but the output goes to dev/null and the return is not used (why? needed for modinfo?)
... I would also replace the modinfo block containing a bunch of grep/head/cut/tr with a single modinfo and standard shell
Code: | for NET_MODULE in $NET_MODULE_LIST;do
MOD_TYPE="" MOD_DESCR=""
modinfo $NET_MODULE |while read LINE || [ "$LINE" ] ; do
case "`echo $LINE`" in
alias*)[ "$MOD_TYPE" != "" ] && LINE="`echo ${LINE#*:}`" && MOD_TYPE=${LINE%%:*};;
description*)MOD_DESCR="`echo ${LINE#*:}`";;
esac
done
echo $NETMODULE' "'$ONETYPE': '$ONEDESCR'"'
done | sort -u > /etc/networkmodules
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where network module list is the basename * .ko listing of all drivers - todo
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jemimah

Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 4309 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Sun 22 Apr 2012, 13:19 Post subject:
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Yeah that should work. A bit high maintenance to remember to generate a new list for each kernel.
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technosaurus

Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4786 Location: Kingwood, TX
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Posted: Sun 22 Apr 2012, 14:47 Post subject:
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Unless you are going to a new kernel version there should be no changes as long as the generated list is from an all_module build - even then it should be very few ... and the new ones tend to be "staging" quality
I have added an rewrite that should build an identical list (hopefully) ... still using the same "API", but I wrote it from scratch (except for the line that echoes that it is building /etc/networkmodules - that line may or may not be needed anyways - kept just in case).
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don570

Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Posts: 4985 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 12:43 Post subject:
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I made some useful modifications to pmirror and
changed its name to puppy backup
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77685
Version 1.4 runs in Akita
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cafedurst

Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 5 Location: South Düsseldorf, Germany
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Posted: Tue 01 May 2012, 17:50 Post subject:
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Happy labour day alltogether,
as a huge fan of Puppy Arcade, i am eager to try out akita. The first thing in the morning - thx unemployment - is a visit to my hardware shop for some USB-Pendrives. Look, what have here? Some CDRWs! What the heck, akitas is surely worth n times of them. Thanks again. Having said that, i think a newly acquired (zero Euro found in the trash) year 2001 desktop standing next to me could also be a good home for this puppy. I played around with several linux distros the last week, but none gave me this good "feeling". Looking back, PA10 rewarded me with more fun in personal computing the last two years than any other technical experiences including the first steps with my samsung galaxy s+. I didn't really get started with the whole emulator fun yet. And now this new system. Entertainment and challenge for years. Thanks for sharing!
For the challenge: i couldn't get the wireless working which runs fine on PA 10, so i run it now on vmware, will give vbox a try, too. The wireless dysfunctionality demands investigation on my side.
The Desktop and Interface has improved imho, but that is just an early impression.
Very userfriendly intstallation of TOR.
Definitely worth trying, even for noobs like me!
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starhawk
Joined: 22 Nov 2010 Posts: 5056 Location: Everybody knows this is nowhere...
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Posted: Fri 11 May 2012, 12:28 Post subject:
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Hey, sc0ttman, you OK?
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starhawk
Joined: 22 Nov 2010 Posts: 5056 Location: Everybody knows this is nowhere...
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Posted: Sun 13 May 2012, 12:19 Post subject:
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Has anyone heard from sc0ttman? He doesn't seem to be posting from what I can tell... I hope he's alright and just taking a breather.
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Puppyt
Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 780 Location: Gatton, Queensland
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Posted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 21:19 Post subject:
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Cooee sc0ttman! Hope all is well with you
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Puppyt
Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 780 Location: Gatton, Queensland
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Posted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 00:59 Post subject:
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Finally scraped some time to revisit the idea that AKITA could be a great foundation for a "Puppy4Kids" platform, what with all the games sc0ttman has provided in his repository... PLUS the consideration to useful learning environments such as PuppyBASIC, TCL/TK (and following on from earlier posts in this thread I think about Pa McClamrock's instructionals http://www.pa-mcclamrock.com/icebox.html) - I reckon provides an environment that bridges a gap for kids who've grown past the HSB (HanSamBen) target audience.
...So I leapt in with trying to install Akita8 (earlier kernel) on a "new" system - an IPEX Slimoffice6 box with: D945GTP microATX mbo; PentiumD 800MHz CPU; 3GB DDR2 RAM at 533MHz; and 160 Gb SATA HD. And while Akita installs from liveCD dreamily, I've got issues with the Pupsave...
On reboot I get the usual Grub4DOS menu, then second line of verbose boot says:
Code: | /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit: line 56: can't create /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE: Read-only file system |
...rest of bootup forges ahead until after
Code: | Recognising media devices... optical, input, keyboard done
login[2381]: Post login on 'tty1'
Type 'xwin' to start X
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and while the prompt flashes, keyboard is dead and only a hard reboot will work.
I save with bootup "numlock on" in Personal Settings, but I note that numlock LED switches off about the time of the PUPSTATE warning message.
Although rebooting with the live CD works fine, it doesn't seem to pick up the akita\pupsave.sfs so that previous application installs can be accessed from the menu etc.
Now all my attempts have been with formatting a small first partition of 16GB for the puppy install, a 512 MB swap partition (for luck only, I think), and the rest ext3 for media storage. On repeated install attempts, the puppy partition has been formatted to ext3 and ext2, and I've established pupsaves in either 3fs or 2fs to correspond. All the installs have been FULL - I haven't tried frugal yet, but will do so shortly as a final resort before headbanging ensues.
Currently running diagnostics from UBCD through the machine like a dose of salts, but nothing in the hardware has pooped itself yet.
Any advice please? I've considered "upgrading" to the buggy(??) newer kernel for Akita, and manually editing rc.sysinit (but with what restorative codes, I can't imagine), and I can manage a quick retry with a FRUGAL install - but beyond that, I'm a complete loss
PS Get well soon, sc0ttman
EDIT: FRUGAL works Now I have a "dual boot" system between frugal and full installs of Akita8 on the same drive. Had to make a huge save file to accommodate all the heavy-graphics games in the Akita repo http://akita.scottjarvis.com/, plus ttuuxx'x offerings of tuxpaint+stamps, tuxmaths and tuxtype here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=263678#263678. Have yet to re-test the Full install, but I don't think I will get any joy with the tinkering I've made with Grub4dos etc...
My next "quick" experiment will be to get some of sc0ttman's games sorted out with missing dependencies - "Epic Inventor" is an Edgar-like platform games that is working (to much delight by kids) despite a huge list of missing dependencies, but "Supertuxcart", "UltimateStunts" and "Pingus" complain about key missing dependencies despite the extra SDL and SDL_net, and openal pets installed. "Seven Kingdoms" is very happy however (oops. forgot to test your "Cartoon Fighter", sc0ttman ).
Would I need the Akita devx to silly-putty the missing deps (I am a perennial noob), or hunt up the more universal pets sc0ttman has made for those programs.
With sc0ttman's Flashplayer11.11.2 I have never seen swf's load so snappily without stuttering play...
And OOolight - what a great office suite! I know OOo4kids is around on the forum somewheres, I'll see what the testing/feedback with that will be, later.
Eeek! I missed "Zombiegrinder" (thought it might have been a a music server!), "TileRacer" and the edutainment environ "Scratch". Son's into writing cartoon panels at the moment - wondering (aloud) if Scratch will serve for that?
And now that it's coming together (at least Frugally), I'm seeing little additional projects to rope in the best DOS educational games (via DBGL I reckon - needs JRE1.5+ which sc0ttman has prepared already (1.6)), maybe a few Win apps via Winelite... and maybe Vulture (Falcon's Eye)/Tiles for Nethack, for historical purposes only
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sc0ttman

Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2571 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun 08 Jul 2012, 11:08 Post subject:
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Hello people....
Akita Linux Beta 9
Download the ISO: http://akita.scottjarvis.com/akita-linux-beta9.iso
size: 91mb, md5: b09c527999a2ba0780bdecbe692fa846
Download the devx: http://akita.scottjarvis.com/akita_devx-b9.sfs
size: 113mb, md5: 6cab1101e73745c8eb0a7e1b1202f8be
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Summary of changes:
- latest radky apps, latest zigbert updates, latest shinobar fixes,
- many more apps, emulators and Qt pkgs in akita repo
- new startup options - add new startup file
- added customised icewm to PPM
- fixes in PPM, jwm setup, vlc-gtk, desktop icons, desktop wallpaper settings
- updates to startups, simplewall, pnethood, sfs_edit, toggle_rox_desktop, other stuff
- new PPM option, asks to save the .pet, when downloaded
Full changelog since beta8:
Code: | April 11
- fixed: pup_event_frontend_d calling snapmergepuppy during 'make', 'cmake', etc (thx Karl Godt)
- fixed: ROX pinboard icon alignment and refreshing (thx shinobar):
- in /sbin/clean_desk_icons, /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d, ~/.xinitrc
- added to Akita repo: samba_client-3.0.26-akita.pet, 1.4mb
- updated pnethood: auto download and install 'samba_client-3.0.26-akita', if no samba found
- added to Akita repo and PPM:
- gens-2.15.5-akita.pet, 540k
- gens_gs_r7-i486-akita.pet, 733k
- gens_gs_r7_DOC-i486-akita.pet, 1.5mb
- snes9x-1.53-akita-i486.pet, 538k
- snes9x_NLS-1.53-akita-i486.pet, 35k
April 12
- updated: /usr/local/sfsconvert/sfsconvert: use SFS dir as default workdir, if SFS was given
- fixes in xfce_minimal-4.2.3.2-akita.pet, in Akita repo
April 13
- updated to Woofy 0.9: uses wmswitcher, check deps, better GUIs, fixes
- updated wmswitcher to 0.19, supports e17, 'chroot' style feature
- updated to yad .17.1.1
April 15
- fixed startup script: /etc/init.d/rc.pup_event_frontend_d
- fixes in /usr/sbin/drive_mounter.sh, dont offer to unmount $PUPDRIVE
- fixed display and removal of LABEL in ROX, /media and JWM drive icons:
- fixed /usr/sbin/blkid-name-generator
- fixed /usr/sbin/create_jwmrc_drives.sh
- fixed /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d
- fixed ~/Startup/gtk-mnt-links
- fixed SFS-Edit:
- unsquash any SFS version
- other related fixes
April 16
- update: re-added support for icewm in /usr/sbin/fixmenus
- fixes and updates for locale changing of JWM menu and PuppyPin (desktop icons)
- added: /usr/sbin/i18n_puppypin
- fixes: /usr/bin/jwm_menu_create
- fixes: /usr/local/bin/fixmenus_on_locale (now uses i18n_puppypin)
- fixes: /usr/local/desksetup/func (now uses i18n_puppypin)
April 19
- fixes for wallpaper setting: /usr/sbin/wallpaper,set_wallpaper, ~/my-applications/simplewall
- fixes for icon switching: /usr/sbin/icon_switcher
- fixed conky pkg in Akita repo, now works with lua/cairo properly
April 20
- added to Akita repo:
- icewm 1.3.7
- icewm NLS 1.3.7
- icewm_lite 1.3.7
- icewm themes 01
- icon themes 01
- fixed wmswitcher when switching to icewm
- fixes in all icon themes
- fixes in SimpleWall: always update symlink /usr/share/backgrounds/default.jpg to point at chosen wallpaper
April 22
- new in PPM:
- added: option to limit search to current kernel pets only
- added: ask to save a copy of pkg being installed, in ~/Downloads
April 23
- fixed: open downloads in all mozilla browsers: /usr/local/bin/rox now ignores file://
- fixed /usr/sbin/delayedrun: only ask to install flash once
- fixed /usr/sbin/fixmenus: ignore 'jwmrc' files in /etc/xdg/templates if using old code (for icewm)
- fixed ownership of files in /etc:
`chown root:root etc/prozilla.conf etc/rc.d/rc.country etc/udev/rules.d/51-hso.rules`
- fixed: `chmod +x usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/input/wacom_drv.so`
- fixed pcursel: created symlink from pcur to pcursorsel
- updated to PupSaveConfig 2.2.1
- updated to FFConvert 2.1
- added to akita repo:
boost-1.46.1.pet
boost_DEV-1.46.1.pet
dbus-1.2.26.pet
dbus_DEV-1.2.26.pet
libjack-0.121.3-i486.pet
libjack_DEV-0.121.3-i486.pet
libjack_DOC-0.121.3-i486.pet
libjpeg-8d-i486.pet
mlocate-0.24-i486.pet
mlocate_DOC-0.24-i486.pet
mlocate_NLS-0.24-i486.pet
musescore-1.1-akita.pet
pingus-0.7.2-akita.pet
qt-4.8.0-akita.pet
qt_DEV-4.8.0-akita.pet
qtfm-5.3-i686.pet
qupzilla-1.2.0.pet
qwriter-0.1.9-i386.pet
stalonetray-0.8.1-i486.pet
stalonetray_DOC-0.8.1-i486.pet
April 28
- updated to VLC-GTK 2.3.9:
- faster disabling of OSC GUI
- slightly better DVD, VCD handling, added dialog
- fixed immediate playback of dirs, given through CLI
Jun 24
- updated /usr/sbin/startups tool
- can now add your own startup progs through the GUI
- updated the 'en' locale file in /usr/share/locale
July 07
- updated to:
Access-Finder-4.0.pet
baconrecorder-2.8.pet
dir2iso-1.0.pet
ffconvert-1.3.pet
firstrun-2.2.pet
grub4dos-0.4.4.v1.8.0.pet
pburn-3.6.1.pet
pfilesearch-1.30.pet
pfilesearch_NLS-1.3x.pet
pfind-5.0.pet
pfind_NLS-5.x.pet
pman-2.0.pet
pnethood-0.7.i18n.pet
pschedule-1.0.2.pet
pschedule_NLS.pet
PupApps-1.9.pet
PupControl-2.2.pet
pupmd5sum-0.4s.pet
PupMenu-2.5.pet
pupsaveconfig-2.2.4.pet
PupSnap-1.8_Scrot-0.8_32Bit.pet
Pup-SysInfo-2.1.6.pet
sfs_load-1.9.6.pet
shed-1.15-w5.pet
swapfilemanager-4.2.pet
xarchive-0.2.8.6.i18n-w5c.pet
- re-added akita specific fixes to new updates above:
- rc.shutdown (alsa stuff),
- pnethood (AppRun auto installs samba),
- firstrun (runs akita_setup)
- xarchive wrappers by abushcrafter (supports more file formats)
- updated akita samba pkg in repo
- updated/fixed geany help page
- updated qt deps in PPM, added libjpeg
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The universal installer still doesn't work right, you'll probably have troubles making a full install, unless you steal the original universal installer from pup4, which might work....
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