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Akita Linux, Beta 16 ISO
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technosaurus
 Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4745 |
@Scottman - Thanks to your oops, I ended up looking into the size difference of using a full flat set of kernel modules (everything in /lib/modules/$KERNVER rather than subdirectories) ... I had previously played with it on the initrd, and knew it was much faster to run depmod and slightly smaller, but when I tested it on the full set of kernel modules, the difference was about 6Mb and depmod is still nearly instant. The only gotchas I can think of are scripts and C programs with the subdirectories preprogrammed for insmod $mod or insmod(mod); ...probably stuff like /init or ndiswrapper.c? ... easy to fix though - not even cut and paste - just cut. _________________ Web Programming - Pet Packaging 100 & 101 |
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sc0ttman
 Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2532 Location: UK |
On the way thanks mate... Still eating carefully, and will be off work for a few weeks yet ...and still (supposed to be) house bound, not driving, etc... But feeling much better... Wanna start exercising soon... But it'll have to wait a month or so..
Hmmm... interesting... I'll have a look at making this work, next time I create an Akita with a Wary kernel... If I can work out what I need to do to reliably locate the problems and fix them.. Anyone wanna suggest the best (ideally aufs) 2.6.x kernel to use next time??
Thanks Don... I'll add it to the repo, Akita already has the following installed: PRename, gFnRename and Renamcon.. _________________ Akita Linux, VLC-GTK, Pup Search, Pup File Search |
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jemimah
 Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 4309 Location: Tampa, FL |
It also breaks dougal's network setup. |
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technosaurus
Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4745 |
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jemimah
Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 4309 Location: Tampa, FL |
It's not too easy, because it breaks the part where you can select which network modules to load or blacklist, etc. I'm not sure how you will tell which modules relate to networking without the directory structure. If there's a good way to fix it, let me know. Module loading is much faster with a flat structure - for some reason. |
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technosaurus
Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4745 |
I would just try to add a variable(s) with all of the network module names (easily found in the tree structure prior to flattening) Edit: Ok, the code is in /usr/sbin/updatenetmoduleslist.sh (not sure why it isn't just a function) - yep, looks like a predefined list will do - there is already an "$EXTRALIST" in a similar format, so it will actually simplify the code. ... just get rid of the /path/ and the .ko and replace the while loop with a for ONEBASE in $LIST; do ... ... but then there is a verbose dryrun of modprobe on each module, but the output goes to dev/null and the return is not used (why? needed for modinfo?) ... I would also replace the modinfo block containing a bunch of grep/head/cut/tr with a single modinfo and standard shell
where network module list is the basename * .ko listing of all drivers - todo _________________ Web Programming - Pet Packaging 100 & 101 |
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jemimah
Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 4309 Location: Tampa, FL |
Yeah that should work. A bit high maintenance to remember to generate a new list for each kernel. |
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technosaurus
Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4745 |
Unless you are going to a new kernel version there should be no changes as long as the generated list is from an all_module build - even then it should be very few ... and the new ones tend to be "staging" quality I have added an rewrite that should build an identical list (hopefully) ... still using the same "API", but I wrote it from scratch (except for the line that echoes that it is building /etc/networkmodules - that line may or may not be needed anyways - kept just in case).
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don570
 Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Posts: 4712 Location: Ontario |
I made some useful modifications to pmirror and changed its name to puppy backup http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77685 Version 1.4 runs in Akita ___________________________________________________ |
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cafedurst
 Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 5 Location: South Düsseldorf, Germany |
Happy labour day alltogether, as a huge fan of Puppy Arcade, i am eager to try out akita. The first thing in the morning - thx unemployment  - is a visit to my hardware shop for some USB-Pendrives. Look, what have here? Some CDRWs! What the heck, akitas is surely worth n times of them. Thanks again. Having said that, i think a newly acquired (zero Euro found in the trash) year 2001 desktop standing next to me could also be a good home for this puppy. I played around with several linux distros the last week, but none gave me this good "feeling". Looking back, PA10 rewarded me with more fun in personal computing the last two years than any other technical experiences including the first steps with my samsung galaxy s+. I didn't really get started with the whole emulator fun yet. And now this new system. Entertainment and challenge for years. Thanks for sharing!
For the challenge: i couldn't get the wireless working which runs fine on PA 10, so i run it now on vmware, will give vbox a try, too. The wireless dysfunctionality demands investigation on my side. The Desktop and Interface has improved imho, but that is just an early impression. Very userfriendly intstallation of TOR. Definitely worth trying, even for noobs like me! |
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starhawk
Joined: 22 Nov 2010 Posts: 5056 Location: Everybody knows this is nowhere... |
Hey, sc0ttman, you OK? _________________  |
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starhawk
Joined: 22 Nov 2010 Posts: 5056 Location: Everybody knows this is nowhere... |
Has anyone heard from sc0ttman? He doesn't seem to be posting from what I can tell... I hope he's alright and just taking a breather. _________________ |
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Puppyt
Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 738 Location: Gatton, Queensland |
Cooee sc0ttman! Hope all is well with you 
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Puppyt
Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 738 Location: Gatton, Queensland |
Finally scraped some time to revisit the idea that AKITA could be a great foundation for a "Puppy4Kids" platform, what with all the games sc0ttman has provided in his repository... PLUS the consideration to useful learning environments such as PuppyBASIC, TCL/TK (and following on from earlier posts in this thread I think about Pa McClamrock's instructionals http://www.pa-mcclamrock.com/icebox.html) - I reckon provides an environment that bridges a gap for kids who've grown past the HSB (HanSamBen) target audience. ...So I leapt in with trying to install Akita8 (earlier kernel) on a "new" system - an IPEX Slimoffice6 box with: D945GTP microATX mbo; PentiumD 800MHz CPU; 3GB DDR2 RAM at 533MHz; and 160 Gb SATA HD. And while Akita installs from liveCD dreamily, I've got issues with the Pupsave... On reboot I get the usual Grub4DOS menu, then second line of verbose boot says:
...rest of bootup forges ahead until after
and while the prompt flashes, keyboard is dead and only a hard reboot will work. I save with bootup "numlock on" in Personal Settings, but I note that numlock LED switches off about the time of the PUPSTATE warning message. Although rebooting with the live CD works fine, it doesn't seem to pick up the akita\pupsave.sfs so that previous application installs can be accessed from the menu etc. Now all my attempts have been with formatting a small first partition of 16GB for the puppy install, a 512 MB swap partition (for luck only, I think), and the rest ext3 for media storage. On repeated install attempts, the puppy partition has been formatted to ext3 and ext2, and I've established pupsaves in either 3fs or 2fs to correspond. All the installs have been FULL - I haven't tried frugal yet, but will do so shortly as a final resort before headbanging ensues. Currently running diagnostics from UBCD through the machine like a dose of salts, but nothing in the hardware has pooped itself yet. Any advice please? I've considered "upgrading" to the buggy(??) newer kernel for Akita, and manually editing rc.sysinit (but with what restorative codes, I can't imagine), and I can manage a quick retry with a FRUGAL install - but beyond that, I'm a complete loss 
PS Get well soon, sc0ttman EDIT: FRUGAL works Now I have a "dual boot" system between frugal and full installs of Akita8 on the same drive. Had to make a huge save file to accommodate all the heavy-graphics games in the Akita repo http://akita.scottjarvis.com/, plus ttuuxx'x offerings of tuxpaint+stamps, tuxmaths and tuxtype here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=263678#263678. Have yet to re-test the Full install, but I don't think I will get any joy with the tinkering I've made with Grub4dos etc...
My next "quick" experiment will be to get some of sc0ttman's games sorted out with missing dependencies - "Epic Inventor" is an Edgar-like platform games that is working (to much delight by kids) despite a huge list of missing dependencies, but "Supertuxcart", "UltimateStunts" and "Pingus" complain about key missing dependencies despite the extra SDL and SDL_net, and openal pets installed. "Seven Kingdoms" is very happy however (oops. forgot to test your "Cartoon Fighter", sc0ttman  ).
Would I need the Akita devx to silly-putty the missing deps (I am a perennial noob), or hunt up the more universal pets sc0ttman has made for those programs. With sc0ttman's Flashplayer11.11.2 I have never seen swf's load so snappily without stuttering play...
And OOolight - what a great office suite! I know OOo4kids is around on the forum somewheres, I'll see what the testing/feedback with that will be, later. Eeek! I missed "Zombiegrinder" (thought it might have been a a music server!), "TileRacer" and the edutainment environ "Scratch". Son's into writing cartoon panels at the moment - wondering (aloud) if Scratch will serve for that? And now that it's coming together (at least Frugally), I'm seeing little additional projects to rope in the best DOS educational games (via DBGL I reckon - needs JRE1.5+ which sc0ttman has prepared already (1.6)), maybe a few Win apps via Winelite... and maybe Vulture (Falcon's Eye)/Tiles for Nethack, for historical purposes only
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sc0ttman
Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2532 Location: UK |
Hello people.... Akita Linux Beta 9 Download the ISO: http://akita.scottjarvis.com/akita-linux-beta9.iso size: 91mb, md5: b09c527999a2ba0780bdecbe692fa846 Download the devx: http://akita.scottjarvis.com/akita_devx-b9.sfs size: 113mb, md5: 6cab1101e73745c8eb0a7e1b1202f8be ___________________________________________________ Summary of changes: - latest radky apps, latest zigbert updates, latest shinobar fixes, - many more apps, emulators and Qt pkgs in akita repo - new startup options - add new startup file - added customised icewm to PPM - fixes in PPM, jwm setup, vlc-gtk, desktop icons, desktop wallpaper settings - updates to startups, simplewall, pnethood, sfs_edit, toggle_rox_desktop, other stuff - new PPM option, asks to save the .pet, when downloaded Full changelog since beta8:
__________________________________________________ The universal installer still doesn't work right, you'll probably have troubles making a full install, unless you steal the original universal installer from pup4, which might work.... __________________________________________________ Some random screenshots of Akita stuff...
_________________ Akita Linux, VLC-GTK, Pup Search, Pup File Search Last edited by sc0ttman on Sun 08 Jul 2012, 12:00; edited 3 times in total |
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